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Episode: “From Time Immemorial” with Joan Peters, Part 1

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00:10 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
00:16 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE.
00:19 FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
00:25 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS
00:29 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
00:36 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
00:38 WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE LATELY IN ATTRACTING SOME MAJOR SPOKESMEN ON THE MIDDLE EAST
00:42 AND WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE TONIGHT.
00:45 JOAN PETERS WROTE THE BOOK, "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
00:48 THIS IS A TEXTBOOK USED IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN ISRAEL.
00:53 IT'S A VOLUMINOUS COPY ON THE ORIGINS OF THE ARAB - JEWISH CONFLICT OVER PALESTINE,
00:59 AS SHE SAYS ON THE COVER.
01:01 SHE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR ON AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN THE MIDDLE EAST
01:05 DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION
01:06 SHE'S LECTURED AT THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT
01:08 AND AT FOREIGN POLICY INSTITUTIONS IN THE U.S. AND ABROAD.
01:13 SHE'S BEEN ON 200 RADIO AND TELEVISION DISCUSSION SHOWS.
01:16 SHE'S CONDUCTED FACT FINDING MISSIONS TO ISRAEL, SYRIA, EGYPT, ETC.,
01:21 CBS NEWS DOCUMENTARIES, I COULD GO ON AND ON,
01:24 CONTRIBUTED TO HARPER'S COMMENTARY, NEW REPUBLIC, NEW LEADER.
01:27 SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE ON AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY BASED IN NEW YORK.
01:33 WE SAT HER DOWN AND ASKED HER HER REASON FOR WRITING "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
01:38 I HAD NO INTENTION OF WRITING THIS BOOK.
01:39 REALLY?
01:40 NO, NONE WHATEVER.
01:42 I WAS ASKED BY DOUBLEDAY AS A RESULT OF AN ARTICLE I DID IN HARPER'S MAGAZINE
01:49 TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT THE ARAB REFUGEES AND THE ARAB-JEWISH CONFLICT.
01:55 YES.
01:57 AND AT THAT TIME THEY WERE CALLED ARAB REFUGEES.
01:59 YES.
02:00 THEY WEREN'T CALLED PALESTINIANS.
02:05 THE ONLY PALESTINIANS WERE JEWS.
02:08 YEAH, I SHOULD CLARIFY FOR OUR AUDIENCE, WHEN YOU SAY PALESTINIAN
02:11 YOU USE THE TERM CORRECTLY FROM THAT TIME, 1948-1970, OR SO.
02:17 BUT, WHEN YOU SAY PALESTINIANS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JEWISH PEOPLE.
02:20 AND WAY BEFORE.
02:21 AND WAY BEFORE.
02:23 ALWAYS, ALWAYS, IN THE 10TH CENTURY THERE WAS A SYNAGOGUE OF THE PALESTINIANS IN CAIRO
02:28 THAT USED TO SEND AROUND THE WORLD FOR COLLECTIONS TO BE SENT TO JERUSALEM
02:35 FOR JEWS WHO WERE KEEPING THE PATRIARCHATE THERE.
02:39 EVEN THOUGH THEY LOST THEIR POLITICAL HOMELAND,
02:42 THEY WERE STILL MAINTAINING THE RELIGIOUS PATRIARCHATE OF JERUSALEM.
02:47 YEAH, AND I REMEMBER SOMEBODY SAYING THE ARABS RESISTED THE TERM PALESTINIANS AT FIRST.
02:52 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IT UP TO 1948, THEY SAID, "DON'T CALL US PALESTINIANS".
02:56 NO, AFTER '48.
02:57 WELL, AFTER.
02:58 WAY, WAY AFTER.
03:00 BUT, THEY HATED THE TERM BECAUSE IT WAS THE JEWS THAT WERE THE PALESTINIANS.
03:01 EXACTLY.
03:03 THE JERUSALEM POST WAS CALLED THE PALESTINE POST.
03:04 EXACTLY.
03:06 THEY WANTED TO BE CALLED SOUTHERN SYRIANS, OR OTTOMANS, OR ARABS,
03:12 OR THE GREATER ARAB NATION, ANYTHING BUT PALESTINIANS.
03:17 AND THEN, THEY BEGAN TO REALIZE THEY COULDN'T GET THE ISRAELIS OUT OF THEIR LAND
03:24 BY MILITARY MEANS, SO, THEY BEGAN TO INCORPORATE THIS ROBBERY OF A PERSONA.
03:32 YES. WHEN THE U.N. DIVIDED UP, WELL, THEY MADE A JEWISH HOMELAND, ANYWAY.
03:37 IT REALLY STARTED OUT TO INCLUDE WHAT WE NOW CALL JORDAN. ISN'T THAT SO?
03:41 EVERYTHING.EVERYTHING FROM THE HEJAZ, WHICH IS THE ARABIAN PENINSULA TO THE MEDITERRANEAN,
03:50 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE JEWISH NATIONAL HOME.
03:53 THEN, THEY LOPPED OFF PART OF IT AND THAT WAS CALLED THE KINGDOM OF JORDAN.
03:59 YEAH.
04:00 IN FACT, THE ARAB-PALESTINIAN STATE OF JORDAN
04:04 BECAME A PALESTINIAN STATE OF JORDAN ONLY IN 1946,
04:10 ONLY 2 YEARS BEFORE THE JEWISH-PALESTINIAN STATE OF ISRAEL
04:13 CAME TO BE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED IN 1948.
04:18 YEAH.AND YOU WENT OVER HERE.
04:20 YOUR ORIGINAL PURPOSE WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE BOOK CAME OUT.
04:24 AS I DID THE RESEARCH I FOUND OUT, ZOLA,
04:27 THAT THERE WAS NO TRUTH TO ALL OF THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THAT STATE DEPARTMENT HANDOUTS WERE GIVING ME.
04:35 I FOUND THAT THE TEXTBOOKS THAT I'D BEEN READING WERE MISSING ALL THE INFORMATION I WAS GETTING.
04:41 I HAD A FILE THAT WAS SO VOLUMINOUS OF "NOTS", I MEAN "NOT'S".
04:52 YES. THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
04:54 THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE, THAT THE WHOLE FABRIC OF THE OUTLINE I'D GIVEN TO DOUBLEDAY
04:59 UNRAVELED AND I HAD TO GIVE BACK THE-- I CALLED THEM AND I SAID,
05:04 YOU KNOW, I REALLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING I THOUGHT I KNEW, I DIDN'T KNOW.
05:09 FOR EXAMPLE, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE JEWISH REFUGEES
05:11 THAT WERE NUMBERING MORE THAN THE ARAB REFUGEES WHO SUPPOSEDLY LEFT ISRAEL.
05:16 SHE SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN "SUPPOSEDLY".
05:18 I SAID, WELL, WHY WOULD THEY CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A REFUGEE FOR ARABS ONLY
05:24 SO THAT IF ONLY 2 YEARS HAD BEEN SPENT IN ISRAEL BEFORE THE STATE WAS DECLARED
05:32 INTERNATIONALLY BY THE UNITED NATIONS,
05:37 WHY WOULD THEY SAY THAT THEY ONLY HAD TO BE THERE 2 YEARS
05:40 IN ORDER TO HAVE STATUS AS A REFUGEE AND GET THE RATIONS AND THE BENEFITS OF A REFUGEE?
05:46 ALL OVER THE WORLD, ALL REFUGEES HAD BEEN RESETTLED REHABILITATED AFTER THE GREAT WARS.
05:53 THEY HAVE NEVER HAD THEIR DEFINITION CHANGED.
05:57 THEY WERE LONG LIVED RESIDENTS WHO HAD BEEN FORCED TO FLEE FOR THEIR LIVES,
06:02 WHO HAD NO FUNDS OF ANY KIND, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD HAD IT CONFISCATED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
06:10 OF COURSE, ALL THOSE THINGS APPLIED IN OTHER SITUATIONS.
06:14 IN THE ARAB SITUATION, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING.
06:18 THE ARABS HAD ARRIVED TO GET THE BENEFITS OF THE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS.
06:23 THE ARABS HAD ARRIVED TO GET THE BETTER HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT WERE OPERATIVE
06:29 IN ALL OF THE AREAS OF EMPLOYMENT UNDER THE JEWISH INDUSTRY.
06:35 THE JEWISH INDUSTRY WAS A FLEDGLING INDUSTRY AT THAT TIME.
06:39 IT WAS OPERATING WITH A WAR DEFICIT OF 5 COUNTRIES ATTACKING IT IN 1948.
06:47 ARAB COUNTRIES WHO WANTED IT TO BE THROWN INTO THE SEA.
06:52 OF COURSE, WHEN I WENT TO INVESTIGATE ARAB REFUGEES,
06:55 I THOUGHT THEY WERE BEING TREATED LIKE THE AMERICAN BLACKS.
06:59 I HAD BEEN A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
07:01 AND I FELT THAT THE ARABS WERE BEING TREATED IN THE SAME WAY
07:06 AND I WAS REALLY IDENTIFYING THE ARABS, THESE ARAB "REFUGEES", WITH THE BLACK AFRICAN,
07:18 THE AMERICAN BLACK AFRICANS, WHAT WE CALL NATIVE AMERICAN AFRICANS.
07:24 WE HAD SO MUCH MISCONCEPTION POURED INTO US BY THE NEWSPAPERS,
07:33 BY THE TEXTBOOKS, BY THE RADIO, BY THE TELEVISION NEWS,
07:38 BY EVEN THE GREATEST EXPERTS WE HAD, BECAUSE I HADN'T FOUND THE EXPERTS I USE IN MY BOOK.
07:44 I TOLD ALL THIS TO DOUBLEDAY'S EDITOR AND SHE SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.
07:49 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MANY YEARS OF RESEARCH.
07:51 I CAN'T HOLD OUT THAT KIND OF TIME FOR THIS BOOK.
07:56 I SAID I'LL SEND BACK YOUR ADVANCE.I CAN'T DO THIS BOOK.
08:01 I'M GOING TO DO IT IF I CAN GET THE STRENGTH AND I WILL COME TO YOU WHEN IT'S FINISHED
08:12 AND IF YOU STILL WANT IT, OR IF YOU DO WANT IT,
08:15 IT'S GOING TO HAVE A "NOT" IN FRONT OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN MY OUTLINE.
08:19 GOSH.OKAY, SO TO RECAP, YOU CONTRACTED WITH DOUBLEDAY TO WRITE A BOOK,
08:24 BASICALLY ABOUT MISTREATMENT OF THE ARABS AND THEIR PRIVATION
08:28 THAT THEY WERE IN STRAIGHTS LIKE BLACKS IN AMERICA AT THE TIME
08:33 AND SO ON AND ENDED UP FINDING OUT NOT, NOT, NOT.
08:37 THE THINGS WEREN'T TRUE. THE ARABS WEREN'T MISTREATED.
08:39 THEY WEREN'T REFUGEES, REALLY.
08:42 THEY, THEY-- WAS NOT THEIR LAND.
08:45 IS THAT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT?
08:46 WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MISTREATED BY THE ARAB COUNTRIES.
08:51 THEY HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THE ARAB COUNTRIES.
08:54 OF THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP.
08:56 THEY HAVE-- OF THEIR LEADERSHIP AND OF THE ARAB COUNTRIES THAT HAVE MADE THEM INTO,
09:00 WELL, YOU KNOW, I USE THE TERM IN WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A VIRTUAL,
09:05 NOT A LITERAL WAY IN MY BOOK WHEN I WROTE IT, I SAID THAT THE ARAB-PALESTINIAN REFUGEES
09:13 HAVE BECOME A HUMAN BOMB IN THE WAR AGAINST ISRAEL.
09:18 BUT, IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME IN MY WILDEST NIGHTMARES
09:22 THAT I WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT A LITERAL- HUMAN BABY BOMB. NEVER IN MY WILDEST NIGHTMARES.
09:29 NO, I WOULDN'T THINK.
09:30 AND HERE IT'S BECOME A HUMAN BOMB IN THE LITERAL SENSE.
09:36 IT'S HORRIFYING BEYOND-- IT'S MONSTROUS.
09:40 AND YET, IT COMES DOWN TO US NOW AS SOME,
09:42 THE ARABS SAYING THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE OCCUPYING OUR LAND.
09:48 THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
09:50 THEY'VE TURNED THE COMPLETE HISTORY ON IT'S HEAD.
09:53 THEY HAVE, IN FACT, ROBBED THE JEWS OF THEIR OWN PERSONA.
10:00 THEY HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN WORD FOR WORD THE DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT HAPPENED
10:07 IN PRE-ISRAEL PALESTINE AND THEY HAVE SIMPLY SUBSTITUTED THE TERM ARAB FOR THE TERM JEWISH.
10:16 WHEN YOU HEAR IT AND YOU KNOW BETTER, IT'S MIND BLOWING.
10:20 I'LL BET IT IS.
10:22 IT'S A SCAM.
10:24 IT'S A BOGUS CLAIM THAT SOME HOW HAS GOTTEN THE ROMANTIC NOTIONS OF THE WORLD AGAINST ALL LOGIC.
10:33 WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS THAT THEY SHOULD COMMAND SO MUCH IMPORTANCE
10:38 THAT THE LIFE AND DEATH OF THE WORLD'S PEACE MIGHT DEPEND ON IT?
10:43 IT IS A SCAM AND IT MUST BE EXPOSED.
10:46 AND, YET, I WAS TELLING YOU BEFORE WE SAT DOWN
10:50 THAT AMERICAN AIRLINES ADDRESSED A FREQUENT FLYER STATEMENT TO A FRIEND OF MINE IN JERUSALEM
10:55 AND SAID, "JERUSALEM, HELD TERRITORIES" H.E.L.D. TERRITORIES.
11:00 GOOD HEAVENS.
11:01 A PRIVATE BUSINESS HAS BOUGHT THE STORY.
11:04 IT SOUNDS LIKE THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
11:06 YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
11:09 YOU WERE IN THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION.
11:10 WELL, I WAS LECTURING, YES.
11:11 I LECTURED IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT WHEN MY BOOK CAME OUT.
11:14 THEY INVITED ME TO LECTURE ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHERE EVER,
11:17 WHAT EVER COUNTRY I WAS IN AND GO TO THE EMBASSIES AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE.
11:20 I DID. I DID TALK TO STATE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL.
11:27 WHAT CAME OUT, VERY LOUD AND CLEAR WAS THAT SOME OF THEM UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL
11:33 THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD TO STOP PAYING THE MILLIONS, 10'S OF MILLIONS,
11:39 I THINK IT'S EVEN BILLIONS NOW, IN MONEY TO THE REFUGEE CAMPS
11:44 THAT ARE KEEPING THESE PEOPLE HUMAN BOMBS.
11:47 THEY OUGHT TO TAKE THAT SAME MONEY AND DO A LITTLE BIT LIKE WHAT JACK KEMP,
11:54 WHO WAS OUR CONGRESSMAN IN RECENT YEARS,
12:00 HE SAID THEY OUGHT TO HAVE A MARSHALL PLAN.
12:02 THEY OUGHT TO IMMEDIATELY SET ABOUT PUTTING ALL KINDS OF MONEY INTO THE EAST BANK OF JORDAN.
12:11 THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PROPOSALS TO HAVE THE LAND OF SAUDI ARABIA GIVEN OVER,
12:17 A PORTION OF IT, WHICH WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO THE ARAB-MUSLIMS,
12:21 GIVE A PORTION OF THAT LAND TO THE PALESTINIAN-ARABS,
12:24 BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR A COUNTRY.
12:26 IT CERTAINLY WOULD MAKE SENSE, WOULDN'T IT?
12:28 THEY SPEAK THE LANGUAGE. THEY WORSHIP THE GOD.
12:30 THEY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN SAUDI ARABIA.
12:33 WELL, ANYWAY, THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS VERY MIXED.
12:37 MOST OF THEM STOOD UP AND WALKED OUT WHEN I WAS SPEAKING.
12:41 THE ONES WHO STAYED TO THE END AND THEY STOOD ON THEIR FEET AND APPLAUDED
12:46 AND THEN CAME OVER AND SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP.
12:49 OF COURSE, NOTHING WAS DONE. BUT, I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
12:53 THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS ALWAYS HAD ITS OWN AXIS AGAINST ISRAEL.
12:59 YES, IT REALLY DOES, DOESN'T IT?
13:01 PRESIDENT CARTER, WHO WE MENTIONED, YOU WORKED IN HIS ADMINISTRATION,
13:06 HAS RECENTLY PRONOUNCED, ALONG WITH PRESIDENT BUSH, TO CREATE A PALESTINIAN NATION,
13:11 THAT THAT'S THE SOLUTION TO THIS PEACE PROCESS.
13:15 WELL, THEY WANT-- IF THEY WANT TO CREATE A SECOND PALESTINIAN STATE,
13:19 THEN THEY CAN LOOK TO SAUDI ARABIA, OR IF IRAQ WAS LEADERLESS
13:27 AND THEY FOUND A NEW LEADER WHO COULD CREATE A DEMOCRACY,
13:30 THEY COULD CERTAINLY APPORTION A PART OF THAT STATE OF IRAQ
13:33 TO SOME KURDS AND TO ARAB-PALESTINIANS.
13:38 OKAY, NOW WHEN YOU SAY A SECOND PALESTINIAN STATE,
13:39 YOU'RE REFERRING TO JORDAN AS THE FIRST PALESTINIAN STATE.
13:42 WELL, IT IS.
13:43 NOT TO ISRAEL.
13:44 I'M REFERRING TO JORDAN.
13:46 RIGHT, OF COURSE.
13:48 THAT IS EASY TO MIX UP. BUT, OF COURSE, NOT TO ANYONE BUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEARD--
13:54 I'M SO INURED TO THE PROPAGANDA THAT I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT JORDAN.
14:00 BUT, WHAT YOU SAY IS SO TRUE. YOU HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
14:05 YEAH.THEY HAVE ALMOST ESTABLISHED-- WELL, EVEN--
14:08 I'VE GONE TO ISRAEL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND TAKEN TOURS.
14:12 I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION, BUT EVEN WHEN I FIRST STARTED OUT I THOUGHT,
14:15 WELL, THIS WAS AN ARAB LAND HERE.
14:18 THE JEWS DID, OF COURSE, LIVE HERE IN BIBLE DAYS AND THEIR ARTIFACTS ARE THERE.
14:22 THERE'S NO QUESTION OF THAT, BUT THEN THEY WERE DISPERSED,
14:25 AFTER ALL, AND THEN THE WORLD FELT AFTER THE HOLOCAUST AND SO ON,
14:30 THEY DESERVE SOME TERRITORY AND WHAT BETTER TERRITORY THAN THE ONE THEY WERE IN,
14:33 BUT IT DID DISPLACE ALL THESE POOR ARABS AND SO ON.
14:36 AND I BOUGHT THE STORY HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
14:39 LIKE YOU, I WAS BROUGHT UP SHORT.
14:42 I HAD A REVELATION THAT THIS IS NOT ARAB LAND.
14:46 IT REALLY WAS NEVER. THE JEWS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
14:49 THERE WAS NEVER PALESTINIAN LAND.
14:51 THERE WAS NEVER A COUNTRY OF PALESTINE.
14:53 NO, NO.
14:54 THERE NEVER HAS BEEN ANY LAND CALLED PALESTINIAN LAND.
14:57 IT SIMPLY DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL OSLO WHEN ISRAEL GAVE THEM SOME LAND IN RETURN FOR PEACE.
15:05 BECAUSE THEY WANTED PEACE SO DESPERATELY THAT EVEN THAT TINY LITTLE PATCH OF LAND THEY HAD
15:10 THEY WERE WILLING TO SHARE EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS A BOGUS CLAIM,
15:14 BECAUSE THEY WANTED SO BADLY TO HAVE PEACE.
15:17 AND WHAT DID THEY DO?
15:19 THEY, IT EXPLODED IN THE FACES OF EVERYBODY.
15:23 YES, AND THE U.N. AND EUROPE, THE MEDIA, I COULD JUST GO ON AND ON, THEY BUY THE STORY.
15:29 THEY'RE INTO THE SAME STORY.
15:32 WELL, THE KINGDOM OF JORDAN WAS A FACT THAT KING ABDULA,
15:36 ACTUALLY KING ABDULA LABELED THAT LAND, KINGDOM OF PALESTINE.
15:42 HE SAID, WE WILL CALL OUR LAND THE KINGDOM OF PALESTINE.
15:46 AND HE WAS ASSASSINATED.
15:48 THE NAME DIDN'T STICK, DID IT?
15:50 AND WHEN THE ARAB-PALESTINIANS, IN 1970, WHO WERE NEWLY CALLED ARAB-PALESTINIANS,
15:58 TRIED TO TAKE OVER JORDAN, 10,000 OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED
16:03 WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF ISRAEL, BECAUSE ISRAEL WAS TRYING TO BE A GOOD GUY AND BE LOVED.
16:10 AND THEY WANTED TO HELP JORDAN.
16:13 BUT, WHAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE IS THAT NOBODY'S EVER GOING TO LOVE ISRAEL.
16:17 ISRAEL IS GOING TO HAVE TO STAY STRONG UNTIL ISLAM REFORMS.
16:22 THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE.
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16:44 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES:
16:48 READING PACKET, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL-IN TESTS.
16:53 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
16:56 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
16:59 PLEASE, CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
17:05 THE ISRAEL WE SEE ON OUR TOURS IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN THE ISRAEL YOU SEE ON CNN,
17:11 THAT'S FOR SURE, AND THE REST OF THE MEDIA.
17:14 I WENT ON WITH JOAN PETERS.
17:17 SHE IS SUCH A BRILLIANT SPOKESMAN.
17:20 I HAVE-- I'M DEVELOPING A TASTE IN WHO SAYS WHAT HERE
17:24 AFTER JOSEPH FARAH AND CAL THOMAS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
17:29 SHE CAN HOLD HER OWN WITH ALL OF THEM, A WONDERFUL AUTHOR AND A WONDERFUL SPEAKER.
17:36 JOAN, YOU KNOW, THE ONE ARAB LEADER ALWAYS CREDITED WITH SUCCESSFUL PEACE PROCESS WAS ANWAR SADAT.
17:43 I UNDERSTAND YOU MET HIM.
17:45 OH, YES.WE WERE FRIENDS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
17:49 BECAUSE THE FIRST ARTICLE I WROTE ON MY FIRST JOURNEY THERE TO DO AN ARTICLE
17:56 ENDED UP BEING A SERIES OF ARTICLES.
17:58 AT THAT TIME, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE 1973 YOM KIPPUR WAR.
18:05 THE EGYPTIANS AND THE SYRIANS HAD ATTACKED ISRAEL ON YOM KIPPUR, THEIR HOLIEST HOLIDAY.
18:14 A FEW DAYS AFTER THE ATTACK, THERE WAS ALREADY A GROUP OF PRESS
18:22 WHO WERE SAYING THAT EGYPT WAS FIGHTING FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE,
18:29 WHICH SEEMED TO ME SOMEHOW TO BE AN OXY-MORON.
18:32 YEAH.
18:34 EITHER YOU'RE FIGHTING OR YOU'RE NOT FIGHTING.
18:36 BUT HE WAS IN THIS WONDERFUL, BENEVOLENT, OFFICIOUS KIND OF, ALMOST, IT WAS ALMOST UNCTUOUS,
18:46 WAY HE SAID, "WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE."
18:51 THEY CLAIMED THAT THEY EVEN SAW JEWISH TEXT BOOKS IN THE WINDOWS OF A BOOKSTORE IN CAIRO.
18:58 BY THIS TIME I'D ALREADY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE JEWISH REFUGEES WHO HAD HAD TO FLEE FROM EGYPT.
19:03 I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE 950,000 SOME JEWISH REFUGEES.
19:08 ALMOST A MILLION PEOPLE.
19:09 ARAB, YES.
19:11 ARAB BORN JEWS WHOSE FAMILIES HAD BEEN THERE FOR, SOME OF THEM,
19:15 LITERALLY FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL.
19:17 YES.
19:19 THEY HAD "FLOWN THE COOP" BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING THREATENED FOR THEIR VERY LIVES.
19:23 THE ARABS WERE STEALING THEIR PROPERTY SO THEY FLED OR WERE KILLED
19:29 AFTER A HISTORY THAT HAD BEEN MARKED BY PERSECUTION AND 2ND CLASS CITIZENSHIP AT BEST.
19:38 BACK TO SADAT.
19:40 SADAT WAS A VERY BRILLIANT MAN.
19:45 HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT A LOT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT PEOPLE DIDN'T;
19:52 THAT YOU HAD TO DECEIVE, BUT WHEN THE TIME CAME,
19:57 IF YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED, YOU HAD TO PRODUCE THE GOODS. AND HE DID THAT.
20:02 LOOK, THIS PEACE PROCESS SEEMS TO TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER EVERYTHING ELSE
20:06 TO WHERE WE'RE BOWING DOWN TO OUR VERY ENEMIES LIKE YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
20:12 FLATTERING, I MEAN, THE PRESIDENT HAS A SAUDI PRINCE AT HIS RANCH.
20:16 THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR GOES TO LUNCH WITH VIRTUALLY THE ENEMY.
20:21 I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. WHAT IS GOING ON?
20:24 I MEAN, YOU'RE AN AMERICAN. HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THAT?
20:29 WELL, I WISH I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
20:33 I AM AFRAID IT TAKES A PSYCHIATRIST TO ANSWER IT.
20:38 I DON'T KNOW WHY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE LOST OUR BACKBONE.
20:44 I THINK THERE IS A KIND OF MINDSET THAT IS ALMOST VISCERAL THAT HAS TO BE BROKEN,
20:50 WHICH IS THE ARABS ARE IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTRY.
20:53 WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTRY IS THAT THE ARABS NOT BE IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTRY.
20:58 THE ARAB-MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN UP TO NO GOOD.
21:02 THEY HAVE BEEN DESTROYING THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN CAMPS.
21:05 THEY'VE BEEN DESTROYING ISRAEL'S FIBER AND MORALE BY THE VERY FACT THAT THEY INSIST ON,
21:11 AS THEY PUT IT, KEEPING THE ARABS IN CAMPS
21:15 SO THAT THEY KEEP THEIR HATRED ALIVE AGAINST ISRAEL.
21:19 THEIR TEXT BOOKS ARE PRINTED WITH VIRULENT ANTI-SEMITISM.
21:24 AND THE CHILDREN WHO GROW UP TODAY AS YOU SEE ON TELEVISION,
21:29 THE ARAB CHILDREN SPEAK OF JEWS AS VERMIN.
21:34 THEY CALL JEWS AWFUL NAMES AND THEY SAY IT ON AMERICAN NEWS BROADCAST WHEN THEY SHOW CLIPPINGS.
21:44 WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO DO A TURNAROUND.
21:47 WE STARTED THE TURNAROUND HERE.
21:49 THE PRESIDENT REALLY TRIED TO START THE TURNAROUND.
21:54 THE THING THAT WORRIES ME IS THAT HE'S VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO PUBLIC OPINION.
21:59 AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT HOW EASILY PUBLIC OPINION CAN BE-- IS FICKLE AND CAN BE CHANGED
22:06 AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WHO HAVE YOUR SHOW
22:12 TO BE OUT THERE AS YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BOGUS CLAIM THAT EXISTS,
22:18 BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY ISRAEL THAT STANDS TO BE DESTROYED.
22:22 ISRAEL IS A SEGMENT OF THE WORLD POPULATION THAT THE MUSLIM WORLD WANTS TO DESTROY.
22:30 WHEN I WAS IN GAZA, I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE TOP MUSLIM LEADERS THERE.
22:35 HE SAID THERE WERE NO LEGAL BORDERS FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN TO THE ATLANTIC,
22:39 THAT ALL BORDERS WERE ILLEGAL.
22:41 I SAID, WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES OF EGYPT AND SYRIA?
22:45 HE SAID, "THEY'RE NOT MUSLIM COUNTRIES."
22:47 THEY HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT THE WEST HAS.
22:50 THEY HAVE MANY ELEMENTS OF THEMSELVES WHICH ARE WESTERNIZED.
22:55 THEY ARE THE GREAT SATAN. THEY MUST BE DE-SATANIZED.
23:00 BUT, HE SAID THIS IN A VERY QUIET, ENGLISH VOICE.
23:07 HE WAS EDUCATED.IT WAS QUIET. IT WAS WELL MODULATED AND IT WAS DEADLY.
23:16 AND HE SAID THAT TO ME 10 YEARS AGO IN GAZA.
23:22 IT'S WHAT YOU CALL IN YOUR BOOK, TURN SPEAK; THIS PROPAGANDA.
23:26 IT'S TURNING EVERYTHING ON ITS HEAD.
23:28 IN OTHER WORDS HE SAYS, THEY'RE MODERN, THEY'RE UP TO DATE,
23:31 THEY'RE LIKE THE AMERICANS OR THE ISRAELIS, SO THEY'RE NO GOOD.
23:33 RIGHT.
23:34 BUT, THAT'S UPSIDE DOWN!
23:36 WELL, FIRST, THEY'RE NOT MODERN, THEY'RE NOT UP TO DATE.
23:38 NO, THEY'RE NOT.
23:39 OF COURSE.
23:40 HE ACCUSES THEM OF THIS AS IF IT IS A CRIME.
23:42 WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UNDER EXTREMIST MUSLIM CONTROL YET.
23:47 BUT, THEY'RE TAKING A LOT OF THEIR, AN AWFUL LOT OF THEIR DICTATES FROM THE MUSLIMS.
23:52 THEY ARE, THE EXTREMIST MUSLIMS, RUN THE SCHOOLS.
23:56 THE SAUDIS PAY FOR THE SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOLS ARE IN THE MOSQUES.
24:00 IF THEY DARE TO DEVIATE FROM THE CURRICULUM THAT THE SAUDIS,
24:04 THAT THE EXTREMIST SAUDI RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY WANTS TO DICTATE, THEY WILL BE DESTROYED.
24:13 THE SAUDIS HAVE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR THE MILITANCY AND DEADLY MONSTROSITY OF THE HUMAN BOMBERS
24:21 BUT THE SAUDIS ARE DESCRIBED AS OUR FRIENDS BY THE PRESIDENT.
24:24 THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE FATAL FLAW.
24:27 CALL THE PSYCHIATRIST.
24:29 THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE FATAL FLAW.
24:30 I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THAT.
24:32 I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL IN GOVERNMENT
24:36 WHO HAVE MADE A LOT OF MONEY THROUGH THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT
24:39 AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE OUT THE INTERESTS THAT ARE PRIVATE
24:47 AND THE INTERESTS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THIS NATION.
24:51 YEAH, WE QUOTED DANIEL PIPES, WHO IS QUITE A SPOKESMAN.
24:55 VERY ELOQUENT SPOKESMAN.
24:58 HE TESTIFIED BEFORE CONGRESS AND HE SAID IN PLAIN WORDS,
25:05 THE SAUDIS ACTUALLY BRAG OUT LOUD ABOUT IT,
25:09 WE DEMONSTRATE TO OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS THAT WE CAN BE VERY GOOD FRIENDS, INDEED, ESPECIALLY
25:14 WHEN THEY LEAVE OFFICE, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DEAL WITH THEM WHEN THEY ENTER OFFICE.
25:19 IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DANGLE THE BRIBE OUT THERE, WE'LL GET THEM TO DO THINGS OUR WAY.
25:24 IS IT THAT BAD?
25:25 YES, YES. IT'S THAT BAD.
25:30 YOU KNOW, THE LORD DESCRIBED A TIME AS BAD AS WE HAVE NOW IN MATTHEW 24,
25:36 THE OLIVET DISCOURSE, WHERE HIS DISCIPLES ASKED HIM
25:39 WHAT WILL BE THE SIGN OF YOUR COMING AND THE END OF THE WORLD.
25:42 HE SAID, ALL THESE ARE THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS.
25:45 THAT WAS AFTER HE SAID YOU'LL HEAR OF WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS,
25:48 NATIONS RISE AGAINST NATIONS, FAMINES, PESTILENCE, EARTHQUAKES.
25:52 IT'S REALLY A TOUGH, REALLY A BAD TIME.
25:55 A TIME RATHER LIKE WE HAVE NOW AND THIS IS THE IDENTIFYING VERSE:
26:02 WHO'S "YOU"?WELL, HE'S TALKING TO ISRAELI JEWS, HIS DISCIPLES.
26:11 I THINK ISRAEL'S THE ONLY COUNTRY TO QUALIFY WITH BEING HATED OF ALL NATIONS.
26:15 EVEN THE NORTH KOREANS AND THE CHINESE AND THE IRAQIS HAVE FRIENDS.
26:18 ISRAEL HAS NO FRIENDS OTHER THAN THE FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON AND MANY TIMES I WONDER ABOUT THEM.
26:24 AND IT GOES ON ABOUT BETRAYALS AND INIQUITY AND SO ON.
26:29 IT'S VERY VERY REMINISCENT OF OUR AGE.
26:32 YOU KNOW, I COULD QUOTE JOHNNY CASH; MATTHEW 24 IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR.
26:38 HE SANG THAT ONCE AND WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT.
26:41 WE'RE LIVING IN THE TIMES THAT THE LORD DESCRIBED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AS THE END.
26:46 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

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