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Episode: “The Fountain of Tears — Beauty for Ashes”
Rick Wienecke’s expansive sculpture integrates two significant, yet never-before-combined events: Jesus’ Crucifixion and the Jewish Holocaust. Through Wienecke’s artwork, Christians and Jews discover beauty emerging from such great sorrow. The Master has touched Rick, and this program will move you as never before.

Caption transcript for “The Fountain of Tears — Beauty for Ashes”

  • 00:16 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL
  • 00:20 IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
  • 00:23 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK,
  • 00:27 FOR THE SAME LORD OVER ALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
  • 00:42 SHALOM AND WELCOME
  • 00:43 TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS
  • 00:45 I'M MYLES WEISS.
  • 00:46 THIS IS MY WIFE, KATHARINE.
  • 00:47 SHE'S MY CO-HOST.
  • 00:49 TODAY WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL PROGRAM FOR YOU.
  • 00:52 WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING TO YOU AN UNVEILING IN A SENSE
  • 00:57 OF ONE OF THE GREATEST WORKS OF ART I'VE SEEN IN THE MODERN WORLD.
  • 01:00 IT'S A PIECE TO BE SEEN.
  • 01:03 IT'S A PROPHETIC PIECE.
  • 01:05 IT TAKES THE HOLOCAUST AND THE CRUCIFIXION AND IT BLENDS IT TOGETHER IN LIFE SIZE FORM.
  • 01:09 IT'S AN AMAZING WORK THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE UNTIL YOU SEE IT REALLY.
  • 01:14 AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPOSED TO IT, BOTH JEWS AND CHRISTIANS.
  • 01:19 YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SPEAKS ABOUT THE DESERT BLOOMING LIKE A ROSE
  • 01:22 AND THIS WORK OF ART IS IN THE DESERT SOUTH OF JERUSALEM.
  • 01:26 THE SCULPTOR, RICK WIENECKE IS A CANADIAN TRANSPLANTED TO ISRAEL.
  • 01:30 HE'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
  • 01:32 HE'S BECOME A CITIZEN.
  • 01:34 HE'S DONE THIS AMAZING SCULPTURE CALLED "THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS"
  • 01:38 THAT HAS SUCH AN IMPACT ON BOTH JEWS AND CHRISTIANS
  • 01:42 THAT WE JUST WANT TO GET YOU RIGHT TO THE INTERVIEW.
  • 01:44 SO LET'S GO TO OUR INTERVIEW WITH RICK WEINEKE RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:49 WHY ISRAEL,
  • 01:51 WHY SCULPTURE,
  • 01:52 AND HOW THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS?
  • 01:54 FIRST OF WITH ISRAEL
  • 01:58 I CAME TO ISRAEL WHEN I WAS ABOUT 21 YEARS OLD.
  • 02:02 I WAS AT THE TIME A TOTAL, SOLD OUT PAGAN.
  • 02:06 I WAS INTO EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN THAT COULD BE DEFINED AS BAD IN CANADA.
  • 02:14 BUT BECAUSE OF THAT LIFESTYLE FOR SO MANY YEARS IT PUSHED ME INTO A PLACE OF DESPERATION.
  • 02:21 I KNEW THAT IF SOMETHING DIDN'T CHANGE IN MY LIFE REALLY DRASTICALLY
  • 02:26 THAT I WOULD EITHER BE DEAD OR I WOULD BE IN PRISON
  • 02:29 BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY NATURAL OUTCOME REALLY FOR THE WAY I WAS GOING THEN.
  • 02:34 SO I WENT OUT ONE NIGHT AND I JUST SAID IT,
  • 02:37 "IF THERE'S ANYBODY UP THERE, I WANT TO GIVE UP ALL THIS JUNK."
  • 02:41 AT THE TIME I WAS DRIVING A CAB...
  • 02:44 I HAD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO ME A SHORT TIME WITHIN A FEW DAYS
  • 02:49 AFTER MAKING THIS BIG PROCLAMATION IN THE FIELD
  • 02:53 THAT MADE ME BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GOD,
  • 02:56 THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF MYSELF.
  • 02:59 AND I STARTED TO SEARCH.
  • 03:01 WHO WAS HE EXACTLY?
  • 03:03 HOW DID YOU GET INTO SCULPTURE?
  • 03:05 HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
  • 03:07 WELL THAT SCULPTING PART,
  • 03:09 IN A SENSE, AFTER SEEING THE INTERACTION OF GOD WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 03:16 I READ A LOT OF BOOKS ...STILL IN VANCOUVER
  • 03:19 ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND THE BEGINNING OF ISRAEL AS A NATION
  • 03:23 UNTIL FINALLY AT ONE POINT I DECIDED IT WAS ENOUGH,
  • 03:26 I'D READ ENOUGH, AND THAT I WAS GOING TO COME TO ISRAEL.
  • 03:29 I THOUGHT I WOULD BE HERE FOR 6 MONTHS AND WORK ON A KIBBUTZ.
  • 03:33 DURING THE TIME OF COMING TO THE KIBBUTZ
  • 03:37 I STARTED TO LEARN WHAT WAS REALLY THE IMPACT OF THE HOLOCAUST ON ISRAEL AS A NATION.
  • 03:44 BUT ALSO WITHIN THAT SPACE I STARTED TO SCULPT.
  • 03:48 I STARTED TO CARVE WOOD WHEN I WAS ON A KIBBUTZ.
  • 03:51 I CAME HERE AND SAW THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS AND WEPT FOR 2 HOURS.
  • 03:57 TELL ME, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
  • 03:59 FOR ME THE WHOLE DRAWING OUT WITH THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS
  • 04:05 WAS THE VERY BEGINNING OF ME COMING TO ISRAEL.
  • 04:08 I WAS DRAWN TO ISRAEL BECAUSE I WAS SO FASCINATED WITH,
  • 04:13 HOW COULD THESE JEWS DECLARE THEMSELVES AS A NATION IN 1948, THREE YEARS AFTER THE HOLOCAUST?
  • 04:23 WHEN I ENDED UP COMING...
  • 04:25 AS A RESULT OF COMING PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY GAVE ME A NEW TESTAMENT TO READ
  • 04:30 BECAUSE THEY ALL THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET KILLED FOR SURE FOR COMING OVER HERE.
  • 04:33 BUT I FOUND MYSELF DRAWN TO THE PERSON OF JESUS OUT OF READING THIS NEW TESTAMENT.
  • 04:40 AT THE SAME TIME COMING TO THE KIBBUTZ I WAS MEETING WITH...
  • 04:45 THE OLDER MEMBERS OF THE KIBBUTZ
  • 04:47 WERE POLISH JEWS THAT HAD TO ESCAPE OUT OF POLAND BEFORE THE NAZI ONSLAUGHT INTO POLAND.
  • 04:55 THEY CARRIED EVERYTHING THAT I HAD READ ABOUT BEFORE COMING.
  • 04:59 THE THING THAT HAD DRAWN ME WAS THE CONCEPT OF THE HOLOCAUST
  • 05:05 AND 3 YEARS LATER THE DECLARATION AS THIS NATION.
  • 05:08 THEY CARRIED IT...
  • 05:10 IT WAS THEIR MEMORY.
  • 05:12 IT WASN'T STORIES IN A BOOK FOR ME ANYMORE, IT WAS REAL PEOPLE, REAL RELATIONSHIP.
  • 05:17 OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP
  • 05:19 OF TRYING SOMEHOW TO DEFINE THE PERSON OF JESUS
  • 05:24 TO THOSE THAT THE DEFINITION OF JESUS HAD BEEN SO WRONGED HISTORICALLY,
  • 05:30 THE LORD CREATED THEM FOR ME A LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ARTS, WITHIN THE SCULPTING.
  • 05:36 AND THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION I WOULD SAY...
  • 05:39 THAT IS THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS.
  • 05:43 (Myles speaking) WHEN WE RETURN WE'LL TAKE A CLOSE UP LOOK
  • 05:46 AT RICK'S REMARKABLE PROJECT CALLED "THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS".
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  • 06:30 THE BIBLE LANDS...
  • 06:32 YOU'VE READ ABOUT THEM,
  • 06:33 NOW ENCOUNTER THEM FOR YOURSELF.
  • 06:36 WALK IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS AT THE JORDAN...
  • 06:38 GALILEE...
  • 06:40 JERUSALEM.
  • 06:41 JOURNEY IN THE SHADOW OF PAUL TO ATHENS...
  • 06:44 CORINTH...
  • 06:45 EPHESUS.
  • 06:46 JOIN MYLES AND KATHARINE WEISS ON A TOUR OF THE BIBLE LANDS
  • 06:51 AND WITNESS THE WORD COME TO LIFE AS NEVER BEFORE.
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  • 07:02 (Rick Weinecke speaking)
  • 07:04 FOR DAPHNE AND I WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF WORK
  • 07:08 AND EVEN IN STARTING ON IT,
  • 07:10 WHAT WE SEE THIS AS
  • 07:12 IS A DIALOGUE OF SUFFERING
  • 07:14 BETWEEN THE HOLOCAUST
  • 07:15 AND BETWEEN THE CRUCIFIXION.
  • 07:17 WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THESE TWO PERSONALITIES WE THOUGHT,
  • 07:22 OK, WHAT EXPRESSES THE BEGINNING OF THE CRUCIFIXION?
  • 07:26 FOR US WHAT YOU SEE WITHIN THIS PIECE
  • 07:29 IS JESUS STRUGGLING WITHIN GETHSEMANE.
  • 07:33 IT'S THE SENSE OF THE CUP IS FULL.
  • 07:36 THE CUP OF SUFFERING HAS BEEN PLACED INTO HIS HANDS.
  • 07:40 HE'S STRUGGLING WITHIN HIMSELF.
  • 07:42 EVEN THE DECISION...
  • 07:44 BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE'S A DRINK OFFERING
  • 07:46 POURED OUT OVER THIS LARGE STONE.
  • 07:50 IT BECOMES THEN THIS CONFLICT,
  • 07:53 THIS STRUGGLE, WHETHER TO STEP INTO THE CRUCIFIXION OR NOT.
  • 07:57 BUT WE FELT LIKE IF IT'S A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE TWO
  • 08:01 THIS IS WHERE IT ALL BEGINS,
  • 08:03 WITH THE DECISION TO DRINK FROM THIS CUP.
  • 08:20 THE FIRST PANEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
  • 08:22 OUT OF THE SEVEN LAST WORDS THAT JESUS SPEAKS FROM THE CRUCIFIXION IS,
  • 08:27 "FATHER FORGIVE THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO."
  • 08:31 I WANTED IN THE SENSE IN CREATING THIS PANEL A SENSE OF DECLARATION.
  • 08:37 AND IN A WAY IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE FIGURE IS COMING OUT OF JERUSALEM STONE.
  • 08:43 HE'S MAKING A DECLARATION OF FORGIVENESS,
  • 08:46 ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS,
  • 08:48 BUT IN A WAY HE'S CREATING A COVENANT THAT'S BASED ON FORGIVENESS.
  • 08:53 WHAT YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU SEE THE FIGURE THAT REPRESENTS THE HOLOCAUST,
  • 08:58 FOR ALL THE SURVIVORS THAT I'VE KNOWN
  • 09:01 THE WORD 'FORGIVENESS' IS THE BIGGEST PLACE OF STRUGGLE FOR THEM.
  • 09:06 IT'S ALMOST LIKE, "HOW DO I FORGIVE AN ENTIRE NATION?"
  • 09:10 HOW DO I EVEN ASK GOD TO FORGIVE?
  • 09:13 IN TOUCHING THIS AREA...
  • 09:14 SO THE FIGURE'S IN A PLACE OF STRUGGLING.
  • 09:17 HE'S CLUTCHING HIS CHEST,
  • 09:19 BUT HE'S LEANING AGAINST THE STONES
  • 09:23 THAT WITHIN THESE SIX PILLARS REPRESENT THOSE THAT PERISHED WITHIN THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 09:30 THE NEXT PANEL THAT WE COME TO IS,
  • 09:34 "TODAY YOU'LL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE."
  • 09:37 THE SENSE WITHIN THE CRUCIFIXION, THE BODY IS BEING PULLED ONE DIRECTION;
  • 09:42 THE HAND IS EXTENDED TRYING TO TOUCH THE STONES THAT REPRESENT THE PERISHED.
  • 09:48 THE OTHER HAND ON THE LEFT IS GOING DOWN.
  • 09:52 IT'S DROOPING.
  • 09:53 IN A WAY IT'S A REACTION TO THE TWO THIEVES.
  • 09:56 ONE THIEF IN HIS LAST MINUTES OF LIFE IS CRYING OUT.
  • 10:01 HE'S CURSING IN A SENSE... THE ONE THIEF.
  • 10:04 BUT THE OTHER THIEF THAT'S DRAWING THE ATTENTION OF THE CRUCIFIXION
  • 10:08 IS ASKING TO BE REMEMBERED.
  • 10:11 THE IDENTIFICATION WITHIN THE HOLOCAUST IS TWO DIRECTIONAL.
  • 10:16 THE HANDS ARE GOING BOTH WAYS.
  • 10:18 THE SURVIVORS THAT WE HAVE KNOWN OVER THE YEARS
  • 10:21 HAVE CONSTANTLY SAID TO US WITHIN THE CAMPS
  • 10:25 WE WERE LIKE BOTH THESE THIEVES.
  • 10:27 AT ONE MOMENT WE COULD CURSE GOD FOR THE PLACE THAT WE WERE IN
  • 10:32 BUT ON THE SAME HAND WE WOULD CRY OUT TO HIM AND ASK HIM TO REMEMBER US WITHIN THIS PLACE.
  • 10:43 THE THIRD WORD IS,
  • 10:45 "MOTHER, THIS IS YOUR SON. SON, THIS IS YOUR MOTHER."
  • 10:49 LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PLACE OF CRUCIFIXION
  • 10:53 THIS IS JESUS SPEAKING TO HIS MOTHER AND JOHN,
  • 10:56 THE ONLY DISCIPLE THAT STAYED WITH HIM DURING THE WHOLE COURSE OF HIS SUFFERING.
  • 11:02 THE HOLOCAUST,
  • 11:04 IT WAS A STRUGGLE FOR ME,
  • 11:05 BECAUSE I KEPT ON THINKING
  • 11:07 WHERE IS THE IDENTIFICATION SOMEHOW WITHIN THIS PART OF THE DIALOGUE?
  • 11:12 BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS THE SENSE OF THE HOLOCAUST CARRYING THIS VERY HEAVY CLOTH
  • 11:18 THAT IS DRAPED OVER HIS SHOULDER
  • 11:21 AND THE END OF THE CLOTH IS IN HIS HAND.
  • 11:24 WITHIN THE FOLDS OF THE CLOTH IS A REALLY SURREAL LOOKING WOMAN'S FIGURE INTERWOVEN.
  • 11:31 IN A SENSE ITS CHARACTERISTIC OF ALL THE SURVIVORS THAT I'VE KNOWN OVER THE YEARS
  • 11:37 IS THAT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CARRYING THE MEMORY OF THE DEAD WITH THEM.
  • 11:41 IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST HAS PUT A MANTLE OVER THEM AND THEY IDENTIFY TO THIS.
  • 11:48 I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
  • 11:50 THE WORDS SPOKEN FROM THE CRUCIFIXION
  • 11:53 IS LIKE A RELATIONSHIP THAT'S UNNATURAL BEING CREATED OUT OF A PLACE OF SUFFERING.
  • 12:02 BECAUSE MARY WASN'T NATURALLY JOHN'S MOTHER AND JOHN WASN'T NATURALLY MARY'S SON,
  • 12:09 BUT IN THE SAME SENSE FOR THE SURVIVOR AFTER THE HOLOCAUST
  • 12:13 HE CARRIES THIS UNNATURAL MANTLE THAT'S PUT ON HIM
  • 12:17 IS THE MEMORY OF THE 6 MILLION THAT BECOMES A RELATIVE TO HIM.
  • 12:39 THIS MIDDLE PANEL WAS THE HARDEST PANEL FOR ME.
  • 12:42 THE WORD FROM THE CRUCIFIXION IN THIS IS,
  • 12:46 "MY GOD,MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
  • 12:50 THE SENSE IN TOUCHING THE CRUCIFIXION IN THIS WORD
  • 12:54 IT'S A CRY THAT GOES UPWARD.
  • 12:56 EVERYTHING WITHIN THE SON IS EXPRESSED LOOKING FOR THE FATHER.
  • 13:02 THE HEAD IS EXAGGERATED.
  • 13:04 IT'S THROWN BACK.
  • 13:06 IT'S ALMOST LIKE EVEN WITH THE LIPS IN THE CRUCIFIXION HE'S LOOKING FOR AIR SOMEHOW.
  • 13:12 I THOUGHT TO MYSELF FOR JESUS, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WORST PART...
  • 13:16 ALL OF A SUDDEN NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND THE FATHER.
  • 13:20 EVERYTHING WITHIN IT...IT'S ALMOST LIKE HIS LAST BREATH.
  • 13:24 EVERYTHING IS GOING UPWARD.
  • 13:27 THE FIGURE THAT REPRESENTS THE HOLOCAUST
  • 13:30 OUT OF ALL THE OTHER FIGURES REPRESENTING THE HOLOCAUST
  • 13:34 HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS HIS BACK TURNED TO THE CRUCIFIXION.
  • 13:39 THE HANDS WITHIN THE HOLOCAUST...
  • 13:42 IT'S LIKE HE'S THROWING HIS HANDS BEHIND HIM.
  • 13:45 IN A WAY WE'RE TRYING TO REFLECT THE WORD THAT YOU HEAR SO MUCH FROM THE SURVIVORS
  • 13:51 IS IN TOUCHING THEIR HISTORY WITHIN THE HOLOCAUST...
  • 13:55 WHERE WAS GOD?
  • 13:58 WHERE WAS HE?
  • 13:59 IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION THAT WAS FLOATING.
  • 14:02 IT ALWAYS STAYS WITHIN THEIR THINKING
  • 14:04 SO THE FIGURE IS THROWING HIMSELF THROUGH TIME WITH THE SAME WORD.
  • 14:09 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THE STRONGEST WITHIN THIS WORD
  • 14:16 WAS THE SENSE OF BEING THROWN INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU MOVE INTO THE WORD, "I THIRST."
  • 14:26 EVERYTHING WITHIN THE CAMPS,
  • 14:27 EVERYTHING IN RELATIONSHIP TO TRYING TO SURVIVE.
  • 14:33 WITHIN THE CRUCIFIXION WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS WORD,
  • 14:36 EVERYTHING IS MOVING DOWNWARD.
  • 14:39 THE FINGERS ARE SURREAL.
  • 14:40 EVERYTHING IS BEING PULLED.
  • 14:42 WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE THE FEET COME TO A POINT ALMOST LIKE THE LAST TEAR OR THE LAST DROP.
  • 14:48 THE FIGURE REPRESENTING THE HOLOCAUST IS ALSO MOVING DOWN,
  • 14:53 BUT THE HANDS ARE 2 DIRECTIONAL.
  • 14:56 HE'S TRYING TO TOUCH THE LAST DROP REPRESENTED WITHIN THE FEET
  • 15:01 BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY WITHIN THE CAMPS
  • 15:03 THAT THEY COULD SURVIVE FOR A LONG TIME ON SMALL PIECES OF BREAD,
  • 15:09 BUT WITHOUT WATER TO DRINK THEY WERE DEAD WITHIN A DAY.
  • 15:15 THE NEXT PIECE,
  • 15:17 THE NEXT PANEL IS "IT IS FINISHED."
  • 15:20 "IT IS COMPLETE."
  • 15:22 WITHIN THE CRUCIFIXION IT'S A SENSE OF DECLARATION.
  • 15:25 THE HANDS ARE COVERING THE HEADS OF THE NAILS
  • 15:28 BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SHOW A COMPLETION.
  • 15:31 SOMEHOW HE'S BRINGING IT TO AN END.
  • 15:34 THE FIGURE THAT REPRESENTS THE HOLOCAUST
  • 15:38 REPRESENTS THE POLISH IDENTITY TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE WITHIN EUROPE.
  • 15:44 AT THE END OF WWII THOSE THAT SURVIVED THE CAMPS
  • 15:48 WERE TRYING TO COME BACK TO THE CLOSEST PLACE OF MEMORY THAT THEY HAD.
  • 15:54 BUT WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THAT THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT.
  • 15:58 EVERYTHING HAD BEEN TAKEN FROM THEM.
  • 16:00 SO WITHIN THE FIGURE HE'S COVERING HIS FACE BECAUSE IT'S A LOSS OF IDENTITY.
  • 16:05 THE ONE HAND IS UP IN THE AIR
  • 16:09 SO IT SHOWS IN A SENSE THE LOSS OF DIRECTION.
  • 16:15 THE SEVENTH WORD IS,
  • 16:17 "INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMEND MY SPIRIT."
  • 16:21 WITHIN THIS WORD THERE'S NOTHING LEFT WITHIN THE CRUCIFIXION.
  • 16:25 THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO GIVE.
  • 16:27 THE FIGURE REPRESENTING THE HOLOCAUST IS COLLAPSED.
  • 16:31 IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE TWO ELEMENTS ARE BURIED TOGETHER.
  • 16:35 THOSE THAT PERISHED REPRESENTED WITHIN THE CLOTH
  • 16:39 AND THOSE THAT SURVIVED,
  • 16:41 IT'S ALMOST FOR THE YEARS BETWEEN 1945 AND 1948.
  • 16:46 BOTH WERE BURIED TOGETHER.
  • 16:51 THE WHOLE WORKING FOR US BETWEEN THIS DIALOGUE OF SUFFERING
  • 16:55 BETWEEN THE HOLOCAUST AND THE CRUCIFIXION
  • 16:58 WAS ALWAYS THE SENSE OF A QUESTION.
  • 17:00 COULD THERE BE A POSSIBILITY SOMEHOW WITHIN THESE TWO PLACES OF PAIN,
  • 17:06 THESE TWO PLACES OF SUFFERING.
  • 17:08 WE BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT WITHIN EACH ONE OF THESE WORDS THERE WAS AN IDENTIFICATION.
  • 17:14 GENERALLY YOU LOOK AT THE IDENTIFICATION IN A LARGE SENSE.
  • 17:19 THERE WAS DEATH ATTACHED TO BOTH.
  • 17:21 THERE WAS BURIAL ATTACHED TO BOTH WITHIN THE THREE YEARS BETWEEN 1945 AND 1948.
  • 17:29 OUR PRAYER, OUR CRY WAS
  • 17:31 "IS THERE ALSO AN IDENTIFICATION WITHIN RESURRECTION?"
  • 17:36 IN LOOKING AT THIS PIECE,
  • 17:39 THIS IS A REFLECTION AGAIN OF WHERE...WHERE WAS GOD?
  • 17:46 THE SENSE OF IDENTIFICATION WITHIN THIS PLACE,
  • 17:48 YOU GET THIS BY LOOKING AT THE CHILD
  • 17:50 AND YOU THINK IT'S A SENSE OF ABANDONMENT.
  • 17:53 HE'S FEELING ABANDONMENT WITHIN THIS POSITION.
  • 17:57 HE'S ON THE INSIDE OF THE CREMATORIUM.
  • 18:00 EVERYTHING THAT HE HAS KNOWN BEFORE HIM
  • 18:03 HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM HIM.
  • 18:13 WHAT YOU SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DOOR
  • 18:16 IS AN EXACT COPY OF THE CREMATORIUM DOORS FROM BIRKENAU-AUSCHWITZ.
  • 18:21 THIS WHOLE PIECE WAS INSPIRED BY A BOOK OF CHILDREN'S POETRY CALLED,
  • 18:27 "I NEVER SAW ANOTHER BUTTERFLY."
  • 18:30 BUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DOOR
  • 18:33 IS THE CREMATORIUM DOORS
  • 18:34 BUT YOU SEE THE ARM OF THE CHILD
  • 18:37 THAT YOU DON'T SEE FROM THE INSIDE
  • 18:40 GOING THROUGH THIS CLOSED DOOR
  • 18:42 BUT THE HAND OF THE CHILD IS CLUTCHING A SMALL PIECE OF GROUND JUST OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR.
  • 18:48 THE SMALL PIECE OF GROUND,
  • 18:50 THIS LITTLE PIECE OF GEOGRAPHY
  • 18:52 REPRESENTS THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 18:55 IT BECOMES THIS PLACE OF RESURRECTION FOR THEM AS A NATION.
  • 18:59 IT BECOMES IN A SENSE, FOR THE CHILD,
  • 19:02 IT BECOMES THE BUTTERFLY THAT THE CHILD NEVER SEES,
  • 19:06 BUT IT BELONGS TO HIM.
  • 19:08 IT'S THE POSSESSING OF THE LAND.
  • 19:22 WE KNOW THE IMPACT THAT THIS
  • 19:25 IS HAVING ON YOU AS VIEWERS,
  • 19:27 BUT IT IS ALSO HAVING
  • 19:28 A HUGE IMPACT IN ISRAEL.
  • 19:30 WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE AND THERE HAVE BEEN
  • 19:33 PEOPLE OF GOVERNMENT THAT HAVE COME DOWN TO VIEW THIS SCULPTURE
  • 19:36 BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A PROFOUND MESSAGE OF THE CRUCIFIXION AND THE HOLOCAUST TOGETHER.
  • 19:41 SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE NICODEMUS
  • 19:43 COMING AT NIGHT TO FIND OUT,
  • 19:45 "WHAT COULD THIS BE?"
  • 19:46 YES, EXACTLY.
  • 19:48 I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST SAW THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS
  • 19:50 I WEPT FOR 2 SOLID HOURS.
  • 19:53 I WAS SO OVERWHELMED
  • 19:55 BY THE JUXTAPOSITION OF THE CROSS AND THE HOLOCAUST
  • 20:00 AND TO SEE AGAIN THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL
  • 20:04 AND THE REACH OF THE JEWISH MESSIAH FOR OUR PEOPLE.
  • 20:08 TO SEE IT PUT IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EVENT IN JEWISH HISTORY,
  • 20:15 IT WAS JUST SUCH AN IMPACT.
  • 20:17 LET'S JUST GO BACK TO RICK
  • 20:20 AND HAVE HIM SHOW US SOME MORE ABOUT THE SCULPTURE.
  • 20:24 BACK TO OUR INTERVIEW WITH RICK WEINEKE
  • 20:29 THIS FINAL PIECE, WE CALL IT "A RESURRECTION OF RELATIONSHIP"
  • 20:35 IT'S THE TWO PARTS OF THE FOUNTAIN,
  • 20:37 THE TWO PARTS OF THIS DIALOGUE OF SUFFERING
  • 20:40 COMING TOGETHER WITHIN AN EMBRACE.
  • 20:43 BOTH OF THE FIGURES ARE COMING OUT OF THE STONES THAT REPRESENT THE PERISHED
  • 20:48 AND COMING INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY FINALLY RECOGNIZE EACH OTHER.
  • 20:54 BOTH OF THEM WITHIN THIS STANCE,
  • 20:56 OVER THEM IS RAISED THE CUP OF SUFFERING.
  • 21:00 THE CUP OF SUFFERING IS NOW EMPTY.
  • 21:03 IT'S BEEN DRUNK.
  • 21:04 BOTH OF THEM CAN IDENTIFY TO THIS PLACE OF SUFFERING
  • 21:08 AND SOMEHOW WITHIN THIS WOUND BOTH OF THEM RECOGNIZE EACH OTHER.
  • 21:25 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOUNTAIN IN A GENERAL SENSE
  • 21:28 THE SYMBOLISM WITHIN EACH ONE OF THE ELEMENTS...
  • 21:31 THERE ARE THE 7 CRUCIFIXION PANELS,
  • 21:34 EACH ONE OF THEM BEING ONE OF THE 7 LAST WORDS.
  • 21:37 BUT A DIVIDER BETWEEN EACH ONE OF THE PANELS IS 6 PILLARS OF STONE.
  • 21:43 THE SIX PILLARS OF STONE REPRESENT A MEMORIAL TO THE 6 MILLION.
  • 21:48 WHAT YOU SEE OVER THE SURFACE OF THE STONES
  • 21:52 IS WATER GOING OVER THE SURFACE REALLY SLOWLY
  • 21:56 BECAUSE WE WANTED THE SENSE OF TEARS WITHIN THIS.
  • 22:00 BECAUSE ONE OF THE MAIN WORDS THAT WE GOT IN THE BEGINNING WAS OUT OF JEREMIAH
  • 22:05 WHERE HE'S CRYING OUT AND HE'S SAYING,
  • 22:18 THE SENSE WITHIN THE TEARS THEN GOES DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PILLARS.
  • 22:22 THE WATER IS DRAINED AND IS CARRIED UNDERGROUND JUST OUTSIDE OF THE COURTYARD
  • 22:28 THAT REPRESENTS THE TEARS GOING OUT,
  • 22:31 THIS WHOLE EXPRESSION.
  • 22:33 BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PLANTED 6 OLIVE TREES ON THE OUTSIDE
  • 22:37 THAT REPRESENT THE PLACE OF REDEMPTION,
  • 22:40 THE PLACE OF GOD WANTING TO PAY BACK WHAT WAS TAKEN FROM THEM.
  • 22:50 LIKE LAMBS
  • 22:53 LED TO A SLAUGHTER.
  • 22:59 SHADOWS OF DEATH
  • 23:03 WE FACED ALONE.
  • 23:08 WHERE WAS OUR GOD
  • 23:12 WHEN WE WERE DYING?
  • 23:18 THE AWFUL SILENCE
  • 23:22 FROM HIS HEAVENLY THRONE
  • 23:30 ♪WE WEAR THE SCARS OF BEING YOUR CHOSEN.♪
  • 23:40 ♪WE BEAR THE SHAME ON DAVID'S STAR.♪
  • 23:51 ♪WE ARE YOUR PEOPLE♪
  • 23:56 ♪ BATTERED...♪
  • 23:58 ♪BROKEN...♪
  • 24:01 ♪HATRED...♪
  • 24:04 ♪MURDER...♪
  • 24:07 ♪THERE WE ARE.♪
  • 24:19 INNOCENCE LOST
  • 24:22 OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS
  • 24:28 DOWN IN THE VALLEY
  • 24:31 LIE VICTIMS UNKNOWN
  • 24:36 WHY THEN, OH GOD,
  • 24:41 AS WE WERE CRYING
  • 24:45 DID YOU NOT HEAR US
  • 24:51 AS WE DIED ALONE?
  • 25:01 ...ALONE
  • 25:09 THIS SCULPTURE CALLED "THE FOUNTAIN OF TEARS"
  • 25:11 WILL BRING YOU TO TEARS REMEMBERING THE HOLOCAUST
  • 25:15 AND REMEMBERING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOLOCAUST...
  • 25:18 INNOCENT CHILDREN, FAMILIES...
  • 25:20 AND THEIR LIVES TAKEN SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE JEWS.
  • 25:24 THE OTHER SIDE THOUGH OF THIS SCULPTURE IS THE RESURRECTION
  • 25:28 AND THE HOPE THAT YESHUA BRINGS
  • 25:30 AND THE ETERNAL LIFE THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH HIM.
  • 25:33 YES IT'S ALWAYS "BOTH/AND",
  • 25:35 THAT THERE IS THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND YESHUA
  • 25:38 AND BECAUSE OF HIS FINISHED WORK
  • 25:40 THE HOPE THAT THERE IS FOR US.
  • 25:43 REGARDING HOLOCAUST DENIAL AND ALL THE NONSENSE THAT'S COMING ACROSS THE AIRWAVES
  • 25:48 WE HAVE A WAY TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THAT
  • 25:51 BY SENDING YOU OUR FREE NEWSLETTER EVERY MONTH.
  • 25:54 IT REALLY SPEAKS ABOUT THESE ISSUES
  • 25:56 AND GIVES YOU A PROPHETIC VIEW
  • 25:58 OF WHAT'S COMING IN THE EARTH
  • 26:00 AS WE LOOK TO THE RETURN OF THE LORD
  • 26:02 HOW EVENTS WILL UNFOLD
  • 26:04 AS WE GET NEARER TO THE COMING OF JESUS.
  • 26:07 THIS WEEK'S OFFERING OF COURSE
  • 26:09 IS THIS SERIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.
  • 26:12 IT'S THE "HOLOCAUST" BY ZOLA LEVITT.
  • 26:15 HE DID AN INCREDIBLE TEACHING
  • 26:17 REGARDING THE EVENTS OF THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 26:19 IT REALLY KNITS WELL
  • 26:21 WITH THIS SCULPTURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU.
  • 26:26 I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BLESS GOD
  • 26:29 FOR BEING ABLE TO BRING THIS KIND OF A PROGRAM
  • 26:32 THAT BRINGS THE REALITY OF THE HISTORY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE
  • 26:36 BUT ALSO THE HOPE THAT IS IN THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS.
  • 26:41 THEY GO TOGETHER.
  • 26:43 WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STANDING WITH US
  • 26:45 AND FOR STANDING FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE
  • 26:47 AND FOR ISRAEL.
  • 26:49 AND SO AS WE GO TODAY
  • 26:51 PLEASE REMEMBER...
  • 26:52 SHAL'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM
  • 26:55 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

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