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Episode: “Our Arab Friend” with Joseph Farah

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  • 00:09 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
  • 00:15 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
  • 00:28 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
  • 00:33 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:35 YOU, KNOW, JOSEPH FARAH, I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO THINK IF HE'S MY FAVORITE ARAB BELIEVER.
  • 00:42 ERGUN CANER IS A GREAT GUY AND BROTHER ZACH THAT WE HAD, AND WALID SHOEBAT,YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE MUSLIMS GET SAVED AND THEY TURN INTO NORMAL, PLAIN SPOKEN CHRISTIANS LIKE YOU AND ME AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING TO SEE.
  • 00:57 YOU WOULD KNOW FARAH IF YOU LOOK AT WEBSITE WORLDNETDAILY.COM.
  • 01:01 HE'S THE EDITOR AND HE JOINED US IN WASHINGTON.
  • 01:04 WELL JOSEPH, I HEAR YOU HAVE A NEW HONOR WITH THE AL JAZEERA, THE ARAB TELEVISION NETWORK.
  • 01:10 AL JAZEERA CALLED ME THE NUMBER ONE ARAB ZIONIST IN THE WORLD.
  • 01:15 WHAT AN HONOR.
  • 01:17 I TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT, I GUESS.
  • 01:19 HOW MANY OTHER ARAB ZIONISTS ARE THERE?
  • 01:22 WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A GROWING NUMBER.
  • 01:25 THIS IS THE GREAT THING, ZOLA.
  • 01:26 SINCE 2000, WHEN I BEGAN WRITING MORE ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST AND PARTICULARLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS AN ARAB AMERICAN, SOMEHOW I'VE BECOME THIS NETWORKING SOURCE FOR ARABS, NOT ONLY ARAB AMERICANS, BUT ARABS AROUND THE WORLD WHO, THEY'LL WRITE TO ME, THEY'LL EMAIL ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THIS PUBLICLY, BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
  • 01:52 AND I LITERALLY HAVE HEARD FROM HUNDREDS OF ARABS AND ARAB AMERICANS OH, THAT'S ENCOURAGING. >>AND ARAB AMERICANS WHO SAY THAT.
  • 02:00 AND I THINK THAT IS VERY ENCOURAGING BECAUSE IT BREAKS THE MYTH THAT ALL ARABS THINK ALIKE.
  • 02:06 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AMERICA AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE A VERY SLOW ISLAMIC TAKEOVER.
  • 02:13 WHEN I'M TEACHING IN THE CHURCHES, I MENTION THIS IN CONNECTION WITH EGYPT OVER 15 CENTURIES OR SO, PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE, AS THEY WILL, RODE IN AND POOR PEOPLE, BUT WHEN THEY BECAME MUSLIMS THEN THEY PROMOTED THEIR AGENDA AND EVENTUALLY REDUCED WHAT WAS A WORLD LEADING SOCIETY TO THE UNITED ARAB REPUBLIC, WHICH COULD NOT EVEN FEED ITSELF.
  • 02:41 THIS IS A STATISTIC THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 02:44 ABOUT 70% OF ARAB AMERICANS ARE CHRISTIANS, OR AT LEAST CULTURALLY CHRISTIAN.
  • 02:50 THEY MIGHT NOT BE EVANGELICAL, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS AS WE KNOW THEM, BUT THEY COME FROM A CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND.
  • 02:56 BUT OVER THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THE IMMIGRATION TREND AMONG ARABS AND NOT ONLY NON-ARAB MUSLIMS INTO THIS COUNTRY, THOSE NUMBERS ARE BEGINNING TO SHIFT.
  • 03:10 I MEAN, I GREW UP IN A COMMUNITY IN NEW JERSEY THAT WAS LARGELY ARABIC SPEAKING.
  • 03:16 WELL, TODAY IT'S, THAT COMMUNITY IS PRIMARILY MUSLIM AS OPPOSED TO BEING CHRISTIAN ARAB.
  • 03:23 THAT'S THE DYNAMIC THAT'S CHANGING THIS COUNTRY.
  • 03:25 IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THE ISLAMIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES IS MOST DEFINITE WHEN YOU GO TO THE COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
  • 03:32 I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SPEAK ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
  • 03:34 I TRY.
  • 03:35 WHEN I APPEAR, YOU WILL SEE THE PEOPLE, YOU'LL SEE THE WAY THEY'RE DRESSED WITH THE KAFIAS AND SO FORTH.
  • 03:44 I DON'T EVEN THINK MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE TRULY ISLAMIC.
  • 03:48 I DON'T THINK THEY'RE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.
  • 03:50 BUT, THEY IDENTIFY CULTURALLY WITH THIS ISLAMIC MOVEMENT GLOBALLY AND I THINK IT'S A VERY, VERY DANGEROUS THING FOR AMERICA BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING OUR PRECIOUS FREEDOMS.
  • 04:01 THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T RESPECT FREEDOM OF SPEECH, DISSENT AND THOSE KINDS OF AMERICAN IDEALS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.
  • 04:09 YOU LOOK AT EUROPE AND YOU LOOK AT FRANCE FOR INSTANCE WITH THE GROWING ANTI-SEMITISM THERE.
  • 04:15 I THINK THERE WAS A FRENCH OFFICIAL RECENTLY SAID, LOOK, PROBABLY THE SAFEST THING FOR JEWS IN FRANCE NOW IS IT LEAVE.
  • 04:23 WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL ITSELF, PERSONAL LIBERTIES?
  • 04:26 OF COURSE, IT'S A THREATENED DEMOCRACY, BUT IT IS A DEMOCRACY.
  • 04:29 COMPARE YOUR SITUATION, IF YOU, WHETHER YOU'RE VISITING ISRAEL OR WHETHER LIVING IN ISRAEL, THERE IS MORE FREEDOM AS AN ARAB IN ISRAEL THAN THERE IS IN ANY ARAB COUNTRY OR MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
  • 04:44 THINK ABOUT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT-- DOESN'T THAT HAVE SOME VALUE TO YOU.
  • 04:49 AND YOU KNOW, IT IS AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN BEGIN TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE AND HAVE DIALOGUE, BECAUSE, IT'S INDISPUTABLE.
  • 04:55 THIS IS WHAT GOT ME, ZOLA.
  • 04:58 LONG AGO ON SOME OF MY EARLIEST TRIPS TO ISRAEL AS AN ARAB AMERICAN JOURNALIST LOOKING AT MY SITUATION AND REALIZING THAT I WAS ONLY FREE TO DO MY CRAFT OF JOURNALISM IN ISRAEL.
  • 05:15 IF I WAS GOING TO REPORT FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, IT HAD TO BE FROM ISRAEL.
  • 05:18 I MEAN, I COULD GO VISIT SYRIA AND EGYPT AND THESE PLACES, BUT, I HAD TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW I FILED MY STORIES AND WHAT I FILED IN THOSE STORIES.
  • 05:26 THE ONLY PLACE I WAS TRULY FREE, WITH AN AMERICAN-STYLE CONCEPT OF FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, WAS IN ISRAEL.
  • 05:34 WELL, SURE, THIS IS THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO WHY ISRAEL IS IN THE FRONT PAGE EVERY DAY.
  • 05:38 YOU COULDN'T REPORT, I MEAN, WE DON'T GET STORIES FROM SYRIA.
  • 05:42 WE DON'T GET STORIES FROM LYBIA OR I DON'T KNOW, SUDAN OR MOROCCO.
  • 05:47 I MEAN, UNLESS SOME BRAVE REPORTER DECIDES OR WAR CORRESPONDENT WRITES FROM IRAQ OR SAUDI ARABIA.
  • 05:55 BUT, THEY THEMSELVES DON'T HAVE COVERAGE OF THEMSELVES.
  • 05:59 CORRECT.
  • 06:00 THERE ARE PROBABLY MORE ARAB NEWSPAPERS PUBLISHING FROM ISRAEL THAN THERE ARE IN THE ENTIRE ARAB WORLD, TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, YES, THEY CAN SURVIVE THERE.
  • 06:13 IT'S ALMOST, I MEAN, YOU LAUGH AND I LAUGH, TOO, BUT IT'S A SAD SITUATION THAT DEMOCRACY ITSELF IS THREATENED.
  • 06:20 WE'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO AND MORE IN OUR LEVITT LETTER THAT THE 21ST CENTURY WOULD APPEAR TO BE A WAR BETWEEN ISLAM AND DEMOCRACY.
  • 06:29 JOSEPH, IF ISLAM WINS THAT WAR, IT'S WORSE THAN A NEW DARK AGE.
  • 06:36 WELL, IT IS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 06:39 I DON'T THINK YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 06:41 I THINK THAT THE LORD IS GOING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
  • 06:44 BUT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS, YOU LOOK AT THE GEOPOLITICAL SITUATION IN THE WORLD TODAY; IT DOES REALLY REMIND ONE OF WHAT THE CONDITIONS WE WOULD EXPECT FOR THE RETURN OF OUR LORD.
  • 06:58 SO, THAT'S THE BRIGHT SIDE. >>IT REALLY DOES, DOESN'T IT?
  • 07:01 LET ME COME TO THAT.
  • 07:03 OF COURSE, YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN BELIEVER AND BORN AGAIN BELIEVER, NOT LIKE THE ARABS YOU DESCRIBED.
  • 07:07 IN ISRAEL YOU FIND EVERY SORT OF, COPTS AND MARONITES AND THE ARMENIANS WHO ARE NOMINALLY CHRISTIANS, THEY'RE SACRAMENTAL CHRISTIANS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SINCERITY.
  • 07:20 BUT, AT LEAST THEY ARE SAYING JESUS' NAME AND THEY ARE-- BUT, BORN AGAIN ARABS, THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER.
  • 07:30 IT COMES UP A LOT WHEN I SPEAK IN CHURCH.
  • 07:32 PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT PERCENTAGE OF ARABS ARE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS.
  • 07:35 WHAT DO YOU THINK?
  • 07:37 I DON'T THINK ANY RESEARCH HAS REALLY BEEN DONE ON THAT, THAT'S MEANINGFUL.
  • 07:40 WE GOT TO GET GEORGE BARNA WORKING ON THAT.
  • 07:42 SERIOUSLY, SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS THE CONCEPT AND TO SOME REAL PUBLIC OPINION RESEARCH IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
  • 07:49 I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IN THIS COUNTRY THE PERCENTAGE OF ARAB-AMERICANS WHO ARE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, IS VERY CLOSE TO THE GENERAL POPULATION.
  • 07:57 I MEAN, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS AFTER ONE GENERATION OR TWO GENERATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY, THE TRADITIONAL CHURCHES THAT THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH-- LOOK, PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE IN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY'RE BOMBARDED WITH THE GOSPEL AND SO THEY TEND TO-- MY BACKGROUND WAS SYRIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH.
  • 08:20 WHICH IS NOT A BORN AGAIN DENOMINATION.
  • 08:24 AND THEN THAT SORT OF, MY PARENTS SORT OF WENT TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC BECAUSE THAT WAS MORE PREVALENT IN THIS COUNTRY.
  • 08:32 BUT THEN, THE SECOND GENERATION, I COME ALONG AND I LOOK AROUND AND I BECOME A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER AND SO THOSE TRADITIONS ARE IN THE PAST AND I SUSPECT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH MOST ARAB-AMERICANS.
  • 08:45 IT WOULD BE INTERESTING WOULDN'T IT IF THE ARABS CAME HERE, AS THEY ARE, AND THE MORE THEY ARRIVE, THE MORE THEY WERE SAVED, THE MORE THEY GOT INVOLVED WITH TRUE FAITH AND THEREFORE THE WHOLE THING DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, THE LORD RESCUES THEM.
  • 09:01 THE BEAUTIFUL THING IS IT CAN HAPPEN TO MUSLIMS JUST AS EASY AS IT CAN HAPPEN TO A CULTURALLY CHRISTIAN ARAB. >>OF COURSE IT CAN.
  • 09:08 AND THAT IS THE BEAUTIFUL THING.
  • 09:10 MAYBE WE CAN, WHY DON'T WE THINK OFFENSIVELY LIKE THAT?
  • 09:14 WHY DON'T WE THINK OF WITNESSING TO THE MUSLIM AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND CONVERTING THEM?
  • 09:20 SO, YOU'RE CONCEPT OF PROPHECY IS THE LORD IS WELL ON HIS WAY?
  • 09:24 I THINK SO AND I THINK THAT IT'S THE PROPER WAY FOR US TO THINK AS CHRISTIANS THAT HE'S AT THE DOOR ALL THE TIME AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO LIVE, WHETHER IT'S 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS OR 100 YEARS FROM NOW.
  • 09:39 I THINK THE BEST WAY FOR US TO LIVE IS IN ANTICIPATION THAT HE'S RIGHT AT THE DOOR.
  • 09:54 HELLO, MY NAME IS AMANDA MOORING.
  • 09:56 MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES FOR ABOUT 4 YEARS NOW WE'VE NEVER MET A MAN WITH SUCH COMPASSION FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE, A MAN WHO UNDERSTANDS WHY THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE IMPORTANT IN PROPHECY AND TODAY.
  • 10:08 WE REALLY BELIEVE IN THE MISSION OF ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES.
  • 10:11 WILL YOU BELIEVE, TOO, AND HELP SUPPORT ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES?
  • 10:23 I SHALL STAND WITHIN THE WONDER OF YOUR WALLS, OH JERUSALEM.
  • 10:29 I SHALL WALK WITHIN THE SPLENDOR OF YOUR GATES, BEAUTIFUL FOR SITUATION, THE JOY OF THE WHOLE EARTH.
  • 10:39 SURELY THE LORD HAS BLESSED THEE AND MADE HIS FACE SHINE UPON THEE.
  • 10:44 JOIN ZOLA LEVITT IN HIS NEXT TOUR OF ISRAEL.
  • 10:49 COME TO ZION WITH SONGS AND EVERLASTING JOY.
  • 10:56 COME, WORSHIP IN THE SPLENDOR OF HIS HOLINESS.
  • 11:04 WELL, JOE FARAH IS REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ISRAEL.
  • 11:08 WE GO THERE ALL THE TIME AND I KNOW THE PLACE PRETTY WELL, BUT, HE'SGOT A WONDERFUL SIDE.
  • 11:14 HE'S AN ARAB ZIONIST, OBVIOUSLY.
  • 11:18 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BAD TO BE A ZIONIST.
  • 11:20 I ALWAYS REPEAT. GOD IS A ZIONIST.
  • 11:22 ANYBODY WHO PREFERS THE JEWS TO LIVE IN THEIR LAND AND SETTLE IT IS A ZIONIST AND JOE FARAH IS NO SLOUCH.
  • 11:30 SO, LET'S GO BACK AND HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ON THAT SUBJECT.
  • 11:35 ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING FROM THE ANTI-ISRAEL CROWD AROUND THE WORLD IS THAT ISRAEL IS SOMEHOW GUILTY OF ETHNIC CLEANSING.
  • 11:45 OH YAH.
  • 11:47 BECAUSE IT'S A JEWISH STATE AND WANTS TO NOW BUILD FENCES TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW ETHNIC CLEANSING.
  • 11:56 IT'S SO IRONIC BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE IS THE SIDE THAT IS TRULY PRACTICING, HAS BEEN PRACTICING FOR AS LONG AS THEY'VE BEEN AROUND AND FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE THERE ARE NO PLANS TO CHANGE.
  • 12:09 THAT IS THE OFFICIAL POLICY OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, THE P.L.O.
  • 12:14 IT IS NO JEWS ALLOWED, VERY SIMPLY.
  • 12:17 WHY IS IT THAT ISRAEL SEEMS TO BE FORCED RIGHT NOW TO WITHDRAW WELL ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES IN THE GAZA STRIP, WHY ARE THEY LOOKING AT PULLING JEWISH COMMUNITIES OUT OF JUDEA AND SAMARIA?
  • 12:29 BECAUSE, THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY AND FUTURE PALESTINIAN STATE ARE GOING TO BE, NO JEWS ALLOWED.
  • 12:35 THAT'S GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL POLICY.
  • 12:38 THE ISRAELI COMMUNITIES, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
  • 12:40 ARABS LIVE THERE, THEY ARE CITIZENS, THEY VOTE, THEY HAVE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT, THEY SERVE IN THE MILITARY.
  • 12:46 THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 12:48 THEY VOTE AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF AMERICANS UNDERSTAND THIS, THAT THE SIZABLE POPULATION OF ARABS WHO LIVE IN ISRAEL, OVER A MILLION OF THEM, THEY VOTE, THEY ELECT MEMBERS TO THE KNESSET, THEY OPERATE NEWSPAPERS, THEY SPEAK OUT.
  • 13:03 THEY EVEN GIVE SERMONS ON FRIDAY THAT ARE HATE-FILLED ANTI-SEMITIC, ANTI-CHRISTIAN MESSAGES AND THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO IT IN ISRAEL.
  • 13:13 IT'S MIND-BENDING THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET THAT.
  • 13:16 I HAD A LETTER SAYING YOU REMARKED IN PASSING THAT SOME PALESTINIANS WERE ILLEGAL ALIENS.
  • 13:23 WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT?
  • 13:24 I THOUGHT YOU SAID THEY'RE CITIZENS.
  • 13:26 WELL, I SAY, LOOK, THE PEOPLE OF GAZA, SAY AND THE WEST BANK ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN ISRAEL PROPER.
  • 13:34 WHEN ISRAEL WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE U.N., THE TERRITORY THEY WERE GIVEN, ARABS WERE WELCOME.
  • 13:40 THEY BECAME CITIZENS.
  • 13:41 THEY ARE CITIZENS.
  • 13:44 THE OTHERS WHO CAME OVER BORDERS AND SO ON RATHER LIKE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT COME IN TO AMERICA.
  • 13:48 THERE WAS NO WAR OR ANYTHING.
  • 13:52 THEY TOOK JOBS, THEY EXCHANGED THEIR LABOR, BUT THEY DIDN'T BECOME CITIZENS AND DO NOT PREFER TO.
  • 13:57 WHEN DID THOSE ARABS START TO COME IN?
  • 14:00 THEY CAME IN, IN RESPONSE TO JEWS MOVING IN AND THERE WAS ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
  • 14:07 THERE WAS MORE FREEDOM THERE.
  • 14:08 THERE WAS OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
  • 14:10 THEY CAME FOR GOOD REASONS INITIALLY, PARTICULARLY.
  • 14:12 BUT NOW, THEY'RE ALSO COMING TO MAKE WAR BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S 2 BASIC SOLUTIONS BEING TALKED ABOUT IN THE ARAB WORLD FOR THE FINAL SOLUTION FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.
  • 14:25 ONE IS THE 2 STATE SOLUTION.
  • 14:26 THE OTHER IS THE 1 STATE SOLUTION.
  • 14:28 EITHER ONE IS BAD NEWS FOR ISRAEL BECAUSE THE 2 STATE SOLUTION GIVES THE YASSER ARAFATS AND THE HAMASES OF THE WORLD A BETTER LAUNCHING PAD FOR ATTACKS IN THIS UNCONVENTIONAL, ASYMMETRICAL TERRORIST WAR LONG TERM WITH ISRAEL.
  • 14:48 THE 1 STATE SOLUTION THAT KHADAFI AND THE PEOPLE LIKE THAT ARE BEGINNING TO TALK ABOUT IS, LET'S JUST HAVE ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO LIVE THRE CAN LIVE THERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE 300 MILLION ARABS IN THE WORLD AND ONLY 7 MILLION JEWS WHO LIVE IN ISRAEL AND THEY CAN BE QUICKLY OVERWHELMED THAT WAY.
  • 15:09 7 MILLION JEWS AND THERE ARE 2 MILLION PALESTINIANS AND GROWING AT AN ALARMING RATE.
  • 15:15 IF THIS WERE COMPARED, AS WE SAID TO HISPANICS TO AMERICA, THAT WOULD MEAN OVER 100 MILLION HISPANICS, WELL, IT'S NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT.
  • 15:24 IT IS MORE-- IT WILL HURT ISRAEL A LOT MORE IF THEY KEEP ON COMING AND KEEP THAT ATTITUDE.
  • 15:32 BY THE WAY ZOLA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THIS, BUT, THEY'RE BUILDING THIS SECURITY FENCE IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE WEST BANK.
  • 15:40 AND IT'S WORKING, TOO.
  • 15:42 IT'S WORKING, BUT, IT'S ALSO DRIVING MANY ARABS TO TRY TO GET ON THE ISRAELI SIDE OF THE FENCE AS OPPOSED AS TO BEING ON THE PALESTINIAN SIDE OF THE FENCE.
  • 15:52 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS SEEN WHENEVER THEY, ALL THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO IS TALK ABOUT DIVIDING LINE IN JERUSALEM FOR INSTANCE AND THE EAST JERUSALEM ARABS WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T LIVE IN WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE PALESTINIAN SECTOR.
  • 16:08 WE'VE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THE LAST 30 OR 40 YEARS.
  • 16:14 THE ARABS DON'T WANT TO LIVE UNDER THE DICTATOR YASSER AFAFAT OR WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE.
  • 16:21 THEY'D MUCH PREFER TO LIVE IN THE FREE SOCIETY, IN ISRAELI SOCIETY.
  • 16:25 WHO CAN BLAME THEM?
  • 16:26 WHAT'S YOUR HOPE FOR, LET'S SAY THE LORD TARRIES 50 YEARS?
  • 16:31 I DON'T THINK HE WILL, BUT, LET'S SAY HE WOULD, NOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
  • 16:36 I THINK THAT OUR ROLE AS A CHURCH IS TO BE SALT AND LIGHT UNTIL THE LORD RETURNS AND I THINK THAT'S A PROPER WAY FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST, TOO.
  • 16:45 LOOK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN THE MIDDLE EAST INTO A PARADISE, SOME KIND OF UTOPIA IN OUR LIFETIME.
  • 16:52 IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 16:53 WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TO TRY TO EXPAND FREEDOM IF POSSIBLE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
  • 17:03 I MEAN, CHRISTIANS ARE BEING PERSECUTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST TODAY.
  • 17:06 JEWS ARE BEING PERSECUTED IN ISRAEL BY THEIR NEIGHBORS.
  • 17:11 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
  • 17:12 WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO TRY TO EXPAND THE FREEDOM'S CALL TO THOSE FOLKS TO OPEN THEIR EYES TO THE TRUTH, NOT JUST THE TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST, BUT THE TRUTH OF-- LOOK AROUND YOU JUST FROM A WORLDLY PERSPECTIVE.
  • 17:29 WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE IN FREEDOM OR SLAVERY?
  • 17:32 THAT'S YOUR CHOICE AND I THINK THAT CAN HAVE SOME APPEAL EVEN IN THE MUSLIM UNCONVERTED WORLD.
  • 17:39 IT'S A MATTER OF WITNESS, ISN'T IT, ALWAYS IS.
  • 17:41 SURE IS.
  • 17:43 IF SOMEHOW THEY COULD BE PACIFIED, IF SOMEHOW THEY COULD GET TO CHRIST, I THINK THAT WOULD, EVEN IN A SMALL PERCENTAGE, TURN THEIR OWN THEORY ON ITS HEAD.
  • 17:51 YOU KNOW, 10% OF MUSLIMS IN FRANCE CHANGED ALL OF FRANCE.
  • 17:54 THAT'S RIGHT AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, LOOK, THE ARABS HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH SELF-GOVERNMENT AND THOSE KINDS OF PRINCIPLES, BUT, YOU KNOW THERE WAS A PRETTY GOOD EXPERIMENT IN LEBANON THAT LASTED A LONG TIME AND IT LASTED A LONG TIME BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE NATION IN THE ARAB WORLD WHERE CHRISTIANS WERE A BIG PART OF THE POPULATION, ABOUT 50%.
  • 18:14 IT'S NO LONGER 50%; MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN DRIVEN OUT OF LEBANON.
  • 18:19 BUT, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECALL, THE LEBANESE EXAMPLE.
  • 18:25 THERE'S ANOTHER BRIGHT SPOT, I THINK, IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IRAN.
  • 18:30 IRAN IS ON THE VERGE RIGHT NOW OF BECOMING A NUCLEAR POWER.
  • 18:33 OF COURSE, IT'S A TERRORIST SUPPORTING STATE; MAYBE THE BIGGEST TERRORIST SUPPORTING STATE IN THE WORLD AND IT'S A NIGHTMARE OF A PLACE TO LIVE.
  • 18:42 YES.
  • 18:43 BUT, THOSE PEOPLE, MANY OF THEM REMEMBER A BETTER TIME AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO MULA RULE IN IRAN RIGHT NOW.
  • 18:52 I THINK THAT'S A COUNTRY THAT CONCEIVABLY IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS, THE REGIME WILL FALL OF ITS OWN DEAD WEIGHT.
  • 19:00 IT COULD USE A LITTLE PUSHING.
  • 19:02 IT COULD USE A LITTLE HELP FROM MAYBE, A VOICE OF AMERICA TYPE OPERATION BEAMED IN FROM THE UNITED STATES TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE SOME HOPE.
  • 19:12 BUT, THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN IRAN ARE SICK OF THE MULAS.
  • 19:15 THE YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE SHAH AND A LOT OF THE OLDER FOLKS WHO DO REMEMBER BETTER TIMES ARE TIRED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
  • 19:25 SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GOOD THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE VERY SHORT TERM IN THE MIDDLE EAST TO GIVE US A BRIGHTER OUTLOOK.
  • 19:35 OK, AND THE CONVERSE, WALID SHOEBAT WAS WITH US.
  • 19:38 HE'S A PALESTINIAN CHRISTIAN.
  • 19:41 MY FRIEND.
  • 19:43 TRAINED AS A TERRORIST AND HE DIDN'T MAKE A VERY GOOD TERRORIST.
  • 19:46 HE SEEMED LIKE A GENTLE-- FORTUNATELY HE WASN'T TOO SUCCESSFUL AT BLOWING UP THE BANK AND KILLING THE POLICEMAN AND THOSE GUYS.
  • 19:55 OH, YAH, HE TOLD ME THE STORY.
  • 19:57 WHAT SHOEBAT SAID TAHT WAS A LITTLE DISCOURAGING WAS THE SUICIDE BOMBING EVEN IN IRAN, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, THEY ASKED FOR VOLUNTEERS AND THEY GOT 10,000 PEOPLE, THEY SAID.
  • 20:09 A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DIE TO KILL JEWS AND AMERICANS AND SO ON.
  • 20:14 WELL, WHEN YOU EDUCATED PEOPLE FROM THE TIME THEY'RE IN PRESCHOOL THAT THE HIGHEST CALLING IS MARTYRDOM, AND THEY REALLY DO.
  • 20:21 THEY DO THIS IN THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS, ZOLA, ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS KIND OF THING.
  • 20:27 AND THAT'S JUST ONE SOCIETY.
  • 20:30 SAUDI ARABIA HAS BEEN PAYING FOR THESE MADRASES FOR WHO KNOW HOW LONG, WHERE IT'S TAUGHT THAT THE HIGHEST CALLING IS MARTYRDOM.
  • 20:37 SO, IT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING THAT A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY GROWS UP BELIEVING THAT AND WANTING TO DIE FOR THE CAUSE.
  • 20:46 THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
  • 20:48 THE THING WE HAVE TO DO IS STOP, FIRST OF ALL, STOP OUR TAX DOLLARS FROM SUPPORTING THIS KIND OF THING AND THEN DO WHAT WE CAN TO STOP THE SAUDIS FROM CONTINUING TO FINANCE IT.
  • 20:59 WHY DON'T WE, JUST ASK YOU WHY DON'T WE CHANGE THE REGIME IN IRAN AND SAUDI ARABIA?
  • 21:04 IT WOULD TAKE ALL SUMMER TO GET IT DONE.
  • 21:06 BUT, I MEAN LIKE IRAQ, WE CHANGED IT IN THREE WEEKS.
  • 21:09 NOT THAT-- THEN WE STOOD AROUND FOR A YEAR, BUT NEVER MIND THAT PART.
  • 21:13 HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST TAKE THEM DOWN.
  • 21:15 I THINK OUR PRESENCE IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW WITH 160,000 TROOPS IS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT COULD HELP TOPPLE THE IRANIAN REGIME.
  • 21:26 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WILL FOR IT IN THIS COUNTRY.
  • 21:30 LOOK AT THE OPPOSITION, ZOLA, IN THIS COUNTRY ALREADY THAT'S TRUE.
  • 21:33 TO IRAQ, OUR OCCUPATION THERE.
  • 21:35 WE'VE LOST 800, YOU'D THING WE'D LOST 800,000 TROOPS THE WAY THE OPPOSITION IS MOUNTING.
  • 21:42 IT'A A POLITICIZED ISSUE NOW IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
  • 21:46 THE AMERICAN PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE VERY STRONG STOMACHS.
  • 21:49 AND SAUDI ARABIA IS SORT OF ASKING FOR A REGIME CHANGE, IT FEELS LIKE.
  • 21:54 IT IS.
  • 21:55 IT THERE IS A REGIME CHANGE IN SAUDI ARABIA, IF THERE'S A COUP, IT'S GOING TO BE A BAD ONE, >>IT'LL GET WORSE.
  • 22:02 I MEAN, IT'LL BE AN AL QAEDA STYLLE REGIME.
  • 22:05 IT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO THERE TO PREVENT THAT OR TO BRING ABOUT SOME KIND OF A FREEDOM ORIENTED GOVERNMENT IN SAUDI ARABIA.
  • 22:21 BUT, I GOT TO TELL YOU, SAUDI ARABIA IS LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT KIND OF CHANGE THAN IRAQ WAS, WHICH WAS MORE OF A SECULAR COSMOPOLITAN SOCIETY.
  • 22:35 OH, THAT'S TRUE.
  • 22:36 AND SO, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH OF A CONSTITUENCY FOR A FREE REPUBLIC IN SAUDI ARABIA.
  • 22:42 JOSEPH, I'M SO GRATEFUL TO YOU.
  • 22:44 YOU ALWAYS INFORM US AND YOU'RE RIGHT UP TO DATE WITH THESE THINGS.
  • 22:48 I REALLY THANK GOD YOU'RE A BELIEVER AND YOU TAKE THE VIEWS YOU DO.
  • 22:52 WELL, THANK YOU.
  • 22:53 IT'S BEEN VERY NICE TO BE WITH YOU.
  • 22:54 I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
  • 24:27 OF COURSE, OUR LORD SPENT ALL OF HIS MINISTRY IN ISRAEL.
  • 24:31 HE PREACHED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 24:33 HE INSTRUCTED HIS DISCIPLES, GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES, NOR ANY CITY OF THE SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT.
  • 24:40 FOR I AM COME ONLY UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
  • 24:43 LATER HE EXPANDED THE MINISTRY AND TOLD THEM TO BE DISCIPLES IN JERUSALEM, JUDEA, SAMARIA ALL THREE, WHICH ARE ISRAEL, AND THE UTTERMOST PARTS OF THE EARTH.
  • 24:53 AND SO WE HAVE GENTILE SALVATION.
  • 24:55 BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS OF JESUS' STATEMENTS WAS MADE TO JEWISH BELIEVERS.
  • 25:02 SOME PEOPLE SAY THE JEWS MISSED THE MESSIAH.
  • 25:04 I'VE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
  • 25:05 A TEACHER HERE AT A HIGH SCHOOL SAID, CHRISTIANITY STARTED IN GREECE.
  • 25:09 GOOD GRIEF.
  • 25:11 OMITTING EVEN PENTECOST.
  • 25:13 BUT, IN ANY CASE JOSEPH WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TRUTH AND OF COURSE IT BRINGS TO MIND JESUS' FAMOUS TEACHING ABOUT THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE CONTEXT, JOHN 8:30 SAYS, AS HE SPAKE THESE WORDS, MANY BELIEVED ON HIM THEN SAID JESUS, TO THOSE JEWS WHICH BELIEVED ON HIM, IF YE CONTINUE IN MY WORD, THEN ARE YE MY DISCIPLES INDEED AND YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.
  • 25:46 YOU KNOW, A RIGHT HEART TOWARD ISRAEL IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL AT THIS PROPHETIC TIME.
  • 25:52 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

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