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Series: “Daniel and the Last Days’ Battle for Planet Earth”
Dr. Jeffrey Seif compares today’s news to yesterday’s prophecies, demonstrating that we are living in ominous times. Co-host Sandra Levitt gives key insights to help viewers perceive world events with a Word-inspired perspective. Zola makes special contributions in brief teaching episodes, pre-recorded interview segments, and with his timeless music. In addition to being loaded with prophetic insights, drama, music, interviews and more, this series invites viewers to secure their appointments with destiny by receiving Israel’s Messiah—whom we call Jesus.
Episode: “The Culture Battle”
Those troubled by today’s headlines will appreciate Daniel’s ancient prophecies of a “Western” (Greek) culture squaring off against an “Eastern” (Persian) culture. These connections prove both interesting and alarming.

Caption transcript for Daniel and the Last Days’ Battle for Planet Earth: “The Culture Battle” (3/8)

  • 00:42 ANGER IN GAZA
  • 00:44 WAR IN LEBANON
  • 00:46 RUMBLINGS IN IRAN
  • 00:50 AS THE WORLD FOCUSES ON THE MIDEAST QUAGMIRE,
  • 00:53 ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES PRESENTS,
  • 01:02 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
  • 01:04 JEFFREY SEIF HERE WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT
  • 01:08 AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT PROGRAM IN STORE.
  • 01:11 SHALOM. WELCOME BACK.
  • 01:13 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CULTURES TODAY,
  • 01:15 A CLASH OF CULTURES.
  • 01:16 CIVILIZATIONS HAVE ALWAYS CLASHED.
  • 01:19 IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO ME, JEFF,
  • 01:20 THAT IT'S THE GOOD AND THE BAD AND THE UGLY,
  • 01:23 AND THE NOT UGLY AND THE -
  • 01:24 EVERYBODY - THE CIVILIZATIONS CLASH.
  • 01:27 SOLOMON SAID, "THERE'S NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN".
  • 01:29 I BELIEVE HE'S RIGHT.
  • 01:31 RIGHT. NOW WE HATE THAT TENSION.
  • 01:32 WE HATE THOSE CLASHES.
  • 01:34 THE POINT IS,
  • 01:35 IT'S OBSERVED IN BIBLICAL LITERATURE AT DAYS' END,
  • 01:39 TITANIC FORCES COMING AND EXPRESSING THEIR ANGST
  • 01:43 AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN "DANIEL, THE LAST DAYS' BATTLE FOR PLANET EARTH".
  • 01:58 CIVILIZATIONS COLLIDED IN THE ANCIENT WORLD,
  • 02:01 AS TODAY NATIONS LIFT SWORDS AGAINST NATIONS,
  • 02:05 WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS ABOUND.
  • 02:10 LOOKING AT THE WORLD THROUGH DANIEL'S PROPHECIES
  • 02:13 WE LEARN HOW, AS THE BATTLE RAGES ON,
  • 02:16 GOD STILL WATCHES OVER AND PROTECTS HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL.
  • 02:27 OUR JOURNEY ACROSS ISRAEL CONTINUES AND TAKES US TO CAESAREA,
  • 02:31 ROME'S 1ST CENTURY MILITARY HEADQUARTERS IN JUDEA.
  • 02:35 JOIN ME AS I VISIT THE PLACE WHERE EAST AND WEST ONCE COLLIDED.
  • 02:42 JESUS IN HIS OWN WORDS SPOKE ABOUT A WORLD AT DAYS' END
  • 02:45 THAT WAS FULL OF WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS.
  • 02:49 I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WHETHER
  • 02:51 THE CLASH OF TITANIC FORCES
  • 02:53 NOTED IN DANIEL
  • 02:55 WAS ON HIS MIND AS HE SPOKE
  • 02:56 FROM THE MOUNT OF OLIVES
  • 02:58 THAT FATEFUL DAY
  • 02:59 SOME 2000 YEARS AGO.
  • 03:01 SPEAKING FROM THIS PLACE, CAESAREA MARITIME,
  • 03:05 THIS WAS THE ROMAN HOME AWAY FROM HOME AS THE ROMANS MIGHT PUT IT.
  • 03:11 AS THE HEBREWS MIGHT PUT IT, THIS IS THE LAIR OF THE DEVIL,
  • 03:16 FOR ROMAN LEGIONNAIRES CAME FROM THE SEA
  • 03:19 AND HERE THEY WERE DISPATCHED TO THE ROMAN PROVINCE,
  • 03:23 THE FAR EASTERN PROVINCE OF JUDEA.
  • 03:26 AND THERE THEY OCCUPIED THIS SACRED LAND.
  • 03:29 FASCINATING ARE THE TENSIONS AND THE WARS THAT ARE PREDICTED BY THE PROPHET DANIEL
  • 03:35 WHO IN FACT EVEN SAW
  • 03:37 THE KITTIM COMING,
  • 03:39 THOSE FROM THE WEST.
  • 03:41 HE ENVISIONED THEM SWEEPING UP
  • 03:43 ONTO THE SHORES OF JUDEA.
  • 03:45 AND HERE WE ARE AT THE PLACES WHERE THEY SWEPT UP.
  • 03:49 BUT OUR STORY TODAY ACTUALLY BEGINS AT ANOTHER STORY IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL
  • 03:55 NOTED IN THE 8TH CHAPTER.
  • 03:56 IF YOU'LL PICK UP IN THE BEGINNING, CHAPTER 8, VERSE 1,
  • 04:01 AND ON WE SEE THAT DANIEL HIMSELF IS TAKEN UP AND PLACED THERE BY A RIVER IN PERSIA,
  • 04:10 IN ELAM, A CAPITOL CITY OF WHAT WAS THEN THE PERSIAN EMPIRE,
  • 04:15 WHAT IS NOW OMINOUSLY THE NATION'S STATE OF IRAN.
  • 04:19 AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, DANIEL THERE SEES A VISION.
  • 04:24 HE SEES A VISION OF A FEISTY RAM
  • 04:28 THAT'S PUSHING NORTHWARD,
  • 04:31 WESTWARD AND ALL ABOUT.
  • 04:33 AND THEN HE'S GOING TO VISION ANOTHER COMING AND CLASHING.
  • 04:37 IT'S A VERY FANTASTIC TEXT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
  • 04:40 LET'S ATTEND TO IT AND THEN I'LL OFFER SOMETHING OF AN EXPLANATION.
  • 04:45 IF YOU'LL LOOK IN CHAPTER 8
  • 04:47 AGAIN IN VERSE 2, DANIEL SAYS
  • 04:49 THAT HE SEES A VISION.
  • 04:51 HE SAYS THAT HE WAS IN SUSA, THE CASTLE WHICH IS IN THE PROVINCE OF ELAM.
  • 04:57 AND ELAM AGAIN IN ANTIQUITY WOULD BE IRAN IN MODERNITY.
  • 05:03 THE LORD TOOK HIM THERE. AND HE SEES A BEAST WITH HORNS.
  • 05:07 IF YOU'LL LOOK IN VERSE 4,
  • 05:17 AS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN A FEW MOMENTS,
  • 05:19 THIS IS DANIEL'S GIVING A DESCRIPTION OF THE PERSIAN EMPIRE THAT WAS STRONG,
  • 05:25 THAT WAS FEISTY, LIKE A FEISTY RAM THAT WOULD PUSH AND PUSH AND OVERWHELM IT'S FOES.
  • 05:32 AS HE SAYS HERE IN THE TEXT, "NO BEAST COULD STAND BEFORE THIS ANIMAL.
  • 05:40 THIS IS PERSIA AT IT'S ZENITH.
  • 05:45 HE GOES ON TO SAY IN VERSE 5 AS HE WAS CONSIDERING THIS RAM,
  • 05:54 SO IT'S INTERESTING YOU HAVE
  • 05:56 AN ANIMAL AT THE EAST
  • 05:58 THAT'S PRESSING WESTWARD.
  • 06:01 AND THEN WHILE HE'S CONSIDERING THAT, SEES AN ANIMAL AT THE WEST THAT'S PUSHING EASTWARD.
  • 06:09 AND IN AS MUCH AS HE LOOKS AT THE PERSIANS THAT ARE MAKING THEIR WAY WEST,
  • 06:14 HE NOW ENVISIONS THE GREEKS AS YOU'LL SEE,
  • 06:17 OR WESTERN CULTURE BY ASSOCIATION, PUSHING IT'S WAY EAST.
  • 06:22 SO WE SEE HERE THE CLASH OF CULTURES.
  • 06:27 I REMEMBER, BY THE WAY, WHEN VIEWING TENSIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 06:32 AND CONSIDERING
  • 06:33 MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD'S BID
  • 06:37 TO DESTROY ISRAEL
  • 06:39 AND WHILE CONSIDERING BEN LADEN
  • 06:42 AND HISCOHORTS,
  • 06:44 THEIR WAR AGAINST THE WEST
  • 06:46 BECAUSE OF THEIR ASSOCIATION WITH ISRAEL.
  • 06:48 WHEN I SEE WESTERN CULTURE AND MOHAMMEDAN CULTURE CLASHING I ASK MYSELF THE QUESTION,
  • 06:55 "DO I SEE THIS AT ALL IN BIBLICAL LITERATURE?"
  • 06:58 WELL FRIENDS, WE SEE IT HAPPENING HERE IN THIS BOOK DANIEL, THE END TIME BOOK.
  • 07:04 WE SEE THIS - TO USE THE LANGUAGE OF THE TEXT,
  • 07:08 A RAM THAT'S PUSHING WESTWARD AND NOW A GOAT AS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS GREECE.
  • 07:13 IT SAYS AS MUCH IN A MOMENT.
  • 07:37 THIS GOAT THAT COMES FROM THE WEST AND SQUARES OFF AGAINST THESE EASTERN FORCES
  • 07:41 JUST OVERRUNS HIM IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.
  • 07:45 WE'RE TOLD IN THE TEXT THAT THE RAM COULDN'T STAND BEFORE HIM
  • 07:48 BUT THAT HE CAST HIM TO THE GROUND AND TRAMPLED UPON HIM.
  • 07:52 THE STORY GOES ON AND IT'S A FASCINATING STORY
  • 07:56 AND THE IMPLICATIONS TO ME ARE RATHER STRIKING.
  • 07:59 WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
  • 08:01 WELL, THIS IS A TEXT THAT'S INTERPRETED WITHIN THE TEXT.
  • 08:03 IF YOU'LL LOOK WITH ME PLEASE IN VERSE 19 DANIEL IS TOLD
  • 08:13 THERE'S A PROPHECY HERE FOR THE END.HE SAYS,
  • 08:20 THAT IS TO SAY THESE ARE THE KINGS THAT COME OUT OF WHAT WOULD BE MODERN IRAN.
  • 08:26 AND THEN HE SAYS,
  • 08:32 AGAIN WHAT WE FIND HERE IN THE TEXT IS A CLASH OF CULTURES
  • 08:35 OUT OF IRAN ON THE ONE HAND AND OUT THE WEST ON THE OTHER.
  • 08:38 MY, ARE WE NOT SEEING THIS KIND OF STORY PLAYED OUT IN OUR VERY DAY?
  • 08:54 I LOVE YOUR TEACHING, JEFF,
  • 08:56 AT THE THEATRE IN CAESAREA.
  • 08:58 TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, WE GO TO THE THEATRE
  • 09:00 AND THEN WE GO TO THE HIPPODROME
  • 09:01 WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY USED FOR RACING AND THINGS.
  • 09:05 BUT LATER ON IT'S USED FOR MUCH MORE SINISTER THINGS.
  • 09:08 YES, DASTARDLY IN FACT WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF LIFE.
  • 09:11 THEYWOULD THROW JEWS AND BELIEVERS
  • 09:14 TO THE LIONS THERE. >>CHRISTIANS! CHRISTIANS!
  • 09:17 AS IT GOES WITH THE JEWS SO IT GOES WITH BELIEVERS.
  • 09:19 IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
  • 09:20 WE BETTER WATCH THAT WITH ISRAEL TOO.
  • 09:22 YES, IT'S AMAZING.
  • 09:23 THERE'S RANK WICKEDNESS IN THIS WORLD.
  • 09:24 DANIEL ADDRESSES THAT IN THE PERSON
  • 09:26 OF THE ANTI-MESSIAH, THE ANTI-CHRIST.
  • 09:28 JOHN IN HIS OWN WAY QUOTES JESUS
  • 09:31 SAYING THAT THE DEVIL COMES
  • 09:33 TO STEAL,TO KILL AND TO DESTROY.
  • 09:35 THAT'S A HORRIBLE NATURE.
  • 09:36 THE DEVIL IS IDENTIFIED AS HAVING IT IN JOHN
  • 09:40 BUT DANIEL SEES THIS TOO.
  • 09:42 WE KNOW WHAT THE MESSIAH LOOKS LIKE
  • 09:44 AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE ANTI-CHRIST LOOKS LIKE.
  • 09:47 HE HAS GOT DEFINITE, DEFINITE CHARACTERISTICS.
  • 09:50 RIGHT. IT'S NOT A PRETTY PICTURE
  • 09:52 BUT IT'S A PICTURE TO SEE.
  • 09:57 FOR SOME IT MUST HAVE BEEN A DEATH MARCH.
  • 10:00 FOR HERE AT THE HERODIAN STADIUM JUST OUTSIDE OF THE THEATRE IN CAESAREA,
  • 10:06 THIS MARKED A SPOT WHERE
  • 10:08 MANY JEWS WERE DRUG OUT,
  • 10:10 THEY WERE FED TO WILD BEASTS,
  • 10:14 THEY WERE FORCED INTO GLADIATORIAL COMBAT.
  • 10:17 AND AS IT WENT WITH THE JEWS SO TOO IT WENT WITH THE CHRISTIANS
  • 10:22 RIGHT HERE IN THIS SPOT IN THE WALK THAT I JUST MADE FOR MANY
  • 10:26 IN A DAY GONE BY WOULD HAVE BEEN THEIR LAST.
  • 10:29 OH, WHAT A DREAD PLACE AT ONE LEVEL.
  • 10:32 SEEMS TO ME AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATEST TRIAL ON EARTH.
  • 10:37 YOU MIGHT RECALL IN THE MATTEAN GOSPEL CHAPTER 24, VERSE 15, JESUS SAID.
  • 11:04 JESUS WARNS OF A TIME OF DREAD TERROR ON PLANET EARTH.
  • 11:10 THE CLASH OF TITANIC FORCES NOTED BY DANIEL BETWEEN FORCES EAST AND WEST COLLIDING,
  • 11:18 IT WAS IN THIS CONTEXT WHERE DANIEL SPOKE OF THE ANTI-MESSIAH,
  • 11:23 THE ANTI-CHRIST WHO WOULD EMERGE OUT OF THE GREEK CONQUEST.
  • 11:27 HERE WE ARE AT THE PLACE WHERE ROME HELD SWAY,
  • 11:31 THE LAIR OF THE LION WHERE THE ROMANS CAME IN MASS.
  • 11:37 AND IT WAS AGAINST THIS BACKDROP IN PART
  • 11:39 WHEN JESUS HIMSELF SPOKE OF A COMING DESTRUCTION
  • 11:43 THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE ROMANS
  • 11:45 WHEN JUDEA WOULD BE SURROUNDED AND COMPROMISED.
  • 11:49 OH, JESUS SPOKE OF WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS
  • 11:53 AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW THE WARS THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT WERE ENVISIONED EARLY ON BY DANIEL
  • 11:59 WHO SAW A CLASH OF CULTURES BETWEEN EAST AND WEST
  • 12:04 AND HE SAW ONE EMERGING OUT OF WESTERN CULTURE WHO WOULD BE THE ANTI-CHRIST TO COME.
  • 12:17 I WONDER IF THEY REALLY ENJOYED THEMSELVES.
  • 12:19 CERTAINLY THEY HOWLED, THEY SCREAMED, EMOTIONS RAN HIGH,
  • 12:24 BUT WHATEVER EMOTIONS WERE RUNNING HIGH HERE IN THE SEATS,
  • 12:28 PALED IN COMPARISON TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SAND
  • 12:31 AS PRISONERS RAN FOR THEIR LIFE.
  • 12:34 JEWISH PRISONERS, THROWN HERE TO MEET AN INGLORIOUS END WITH WILD BEASTS,
  • 12:40 TO FACE GLADIATORS STRONGER THAN THEY
  • 12:43 AND CHRISTIANS AS WELL WERE GATHERED IN MASS
  • 12:46 TO GO TO A MASS GRAVE HERE, TO BE THROWN TO THE BEASTS,
  • 12:50 HUNGRY, THEY TASTED BLOOD AND THEY WANTED MORE OF IT.
  • 12:55 WHAT A HORRIBLE END AT ONE LEVEL.
  • 12:57 AND SPEAKING OF THE END,
  • 12:59 DANIEL HAD PRESAGED YEARS BEFORE JESUS MADE HIS ENTRANCE ON TO THE STAGE OF THE HUMAN DRAMA,
  • 13:06 THAT THERE IN FACT WOULD BE A TIME OF THE END.
  • 13:10 AND WHILE THE END AT ONE LEVEL WAS GOOD
  • 13:13 BECAUSE THE END OF THE CURRENT AGE THEN WAS THE BEGINNING OF AN EPIC IN HUMAN EXPERIENCE
  • 13:19 WHEN THE EARTH WOULD BE FULL
  • 13:21 OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD
  • 13:23 AS THE WATERS COVER THE SEA.
  • 13:25 THERE WAS A NEW WORLD DAWNING.
  • 13:27 BUT AS IT IS THE CASE WITH THE SUN,
  • 13:30 YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT IT GETS DARKEST JUST BEFORE THE DAWN.
  • 13:36 AND BEFORE THE DAWNING OF THE NEW ERA OF THE MESSIANIC ERA,
  • 13:39 THE WORLD GOES DARK, THE WORLD GOES PITCH BLACK AT THE END OF DAYS.
  • 13:45 HORRORS ARE DECREED, TRIBULATIONS TO BE UNLEASHED ON PLANET EARTH.
  • 13:50 DANIEL SAW THIS AND MORE, IN FACT, IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL
  • 13:53 IN MORE THAN ONE OCCASION HE WAS LEFT SPEECHLESS.
  • 13:57 EVEN AFTER SEEING A VISION MORE THAN ONCE, HE COULDN'T GET UP
  • 14:01 SAVE FOR AN ANGEL COMING AND LIFTING HIM UP.
  • 14:04 WELL, IN ONE OF THOSE MESSAGES WHEN HE WAS ON HIS FEET HE SPOKE ABOUT A LAST DAYS' WORLD.
  • 14:10 HE SPOKE IN DANIEL CHAPTER 8, VERSE 13,
  • 14:14 HE SAYS IT EXPLICITLY,
  • 14:22 DANIEL WAS SHOCKED TO CONSIDER SUCH AN INGLORIOUS DEMISE TO THE SANCTUARY,
  • 14:27 THE "BEIT HAMIKDASH",
  • 14:29 THE HOLY HOUSE.
  • 14:30 WE'RE TOLD IN VERSE 15,
  • 14:31 "AND I DANIEL, WHEN I SAW IT I WAS SHOCKED"
  • 14:34 AND HE SAYS IN VERSE 16,
  • 14:43 AND HERE GABRIEL
  • 14:45 MAKES HIS ENTRANCE ONTO
  • 14:46 THE STAGE OF WORLD HISTORY
  • 14:50 PARTICULARLY TO HELP A SHOCKED DANIEL, ENVISIONED THE WARFARE AT THE END OF DAYS
  • 14:55 WHERE IT BECOMES PITCH BLACK WITH THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS MAKING HIS PRESENCE KNOWN.
  • 15:01 AND HE SAYS IN VERSE 17,
  • 15:10 FANTASTIC LANGUAGE HERE.
  • 15:12 I DON'T MEAN IN A GLORIOUS SENSE, I JUST MEAN YOU CAN FEEL THE EMOTION IN THE LITERATURE.
  • 15:16 DANIEL IS PERPLEXED, HE NEEDS HELP JUST TO SEE AND CONSIDER WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT.
  • 15:22 AND AS HE WAS SPEAKING, HE SAYS IN VERSE 19,
  • 15:34 THIS RAGE IS LET OUT OF THE CAGE AND DANIEL IS THE ONE TO BRING THE WORD.
  • 15:39 OH, IT'S A WORD SEALED UP
  • 15:41 FOR MORE THAN ONCE AND PARTICULARLY AT THE END OF THE 12TH CHAPTER DANIEL WAS TOLD
  • 15:45 THE VISION IS TO BE SEALED UP
  • 15:48 UNTIL THE END.IT'S CONFUSING,
  • 15:50 HERE WE'RE TOLD IN VERSE 21 AND ON HE SPEAKS ABOUT THIS KINGDOM OF THE WEST
  • 15:58 AND THE KINGDOM OF PERSIA
  • 16:00 CLASHING AND FIGHTING
  • 16:02 AND GOING AT IT.
  • 16:04 AND ALL THIS IS A PART OF AN END TIME STORY ACCORDING TO THE TEXT
  • 16:08 AND I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER AS I LOOK AT THE WORD ON ONE HAND
  • 16:13 AND I AS I LOOK AT THE MODERN WORLD IN THE OTHER
  • 16:16 AND I SEE THE FORCES, TITANIC FORCES,
  • 16:20 FROM THE EAST, THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 16:22 CLASHING WITH FORCES FROM THE WEST, WESTERN CULTURE.
  • 16:26 AND THEY SWEEP UP AGAINST EACH OTHER,
  • 16:28 I'M WONDERING IF WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE WORLD TODAY IS WHAT SHOCKED DANIEL YESTERDAY.
  • 16:36 THERE'S MORE TO BE TOLD AND THE STORY WILL UNFOLD AS WE CONSIDER
  • 16:39 DANIEL AND THE LAST DAYS' BATTLE FOR PLANET EARTH.
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  • 18:13 ISRAEL IS A WONDERFUL PLACE.
  • 18:15 IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GO.
  • 18:17 IT'S A SAFE PLACE STILL.
  • 18:19 WHY DON'T YOU JOIN ME AND SANDRA IN THE HOLY LAND
  • 18:22 AND LET'S WALK WHERE JESUS WALKED.
  • 18:24 I SAY IT AGAIN JEFF. WE GO TO CAESAREA,
  • 18:27 WE SEE ALL THESE SITES,
  • 18:28 IT MAKES THE BIBLE COME ALIVE.
  • 18:31 ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I REALLY ENJOYED INTERVIEWING WAS JOEL ROSENBERG.
  • 18:34 WE TRIED TO GET HIM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS
  • 18:37 AND OUR SCHEDULES WOULDN'T WORK
  • 18:39 AND WE'RE IN ISRAEL
  • 18:40 AND WE'RE INTERVIEWING CALEV MYERS AND CALEV SAYS,
  • 18:43 "OH, I HAD DINNER WITH JOEL"
  • 18:45 AND WE ALL JUST GET REAL EXCITED
  • 18:46 AND WE CALL AND IN ISRAEL
  • 18:48 WE GET TO INTERVIEW JOEL ROSENBERG.
  • 18:50 HE IS SO FASCINATING.
  • 18:52 HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK CALLED "EPICENTER" WHICH IS HIS FIRST NON-FICTION BOOK
  • 18:56 AND HE IS A TERRIFIC GUY,
  • 18:59 KNOWS HIS STUFF,
  • 19:00 WAS ADVISOR TO NETANYAHU AND TO SHARANSKY.
  • 19:04 REALLY TERRIFIC.
  • 19:05 HE WROTE AS A GHOST FOR RUSH LIMBAUGH,
  • 19:08 HE'S A NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLING AUTHOR.
  • 19:10 HE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE.
  • 19:12 I GET SO EXCITED EVERY TIME I THINK THAT WE TALKED TO HIM
  • 19:15 AND A NICE, NICE GUY.
  • 19:16 I KNOW YOU'LL ENJOY THIS INTERVIEW.
  • 19:25 FOR EXAMPLE, TO SHOW THAT IN
  • 19:26 1967 AND 1973 THE SOVIET UNION
  • 19:30 WAS THIS CLOSE TO
  • 19:32 SENDING GROUND TROOPS INTO ISRAEL TO TAKE OVER ISRAEL
  • 19:35 ALONG WITH THE ARAB FORCES
  • 19:37 AND IT TOOK PRESIDENT JOHNSON IN THE FIRST CASE,
  • 19:40 NIXON IN THE SECOND CASE
  • 19:41 TO PUT AMERICA ON A NUCLEAR ALERT TO KEEP THE RUSSIANS OUT.
  • 19:46 NOW, AT THAT MOMENT YOU COULD HAVE THOUGHT,
  • 19:48 "WOW, THE WAR GOG AND MAGOG".
  • 19:50 EZEKIEL CHAPTER 38 AND 39. >>RIGHT.
  • 19:52 "I THINK IT'S COMING TRUE RIGHT THIS MOMENT!"
  • 19:54 WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS AND SAY,
  • 19:56 "GOD COULD KICK THE CAN OF THIS PROPHECY UP THE ROAD A NUMBER OF YEARS."
  • 19:59 AND SO NOW WE'RE WATCHING RUSSIA AND IRAN BUILD A MILITARY ALLIANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME
  • 20:04 IN THE 2500 YEARS SINCE EZEKIEL SAID IT WOULD ONE DAY HAPPEN IN THE LAST DAYS.
  • 20:10 DOES THAT MEAN THE WAR IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON?I DON'T KNOW.
  • 20:14 I CAN'T RULE IT IN. BUT I CAN'T RULE IT OUT EITHER,
  • 20:17 ESPECIALLY IN THE LIGHT OF THE FACT OF EZEKIEL CHAPTER 36 AND 37 HAVE ALREADY COME TRUE.
  • 20:22 WE'RE SITTING IN ISRAEL, IT'S REBORN, >>RIGHT. RIGHT.
  • 20:24 THE ANCIENT RUINS HAVE BEEN REBUILT, JEWS ARE POURING BACK IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
  • 20:27 AND DOES BEG THE QUESTION,
  • 20:29 "IF EZEKIEL CHAPTER 36 AND 37 HAVE COME TRUE IN OUR LIFETIME,"
  • 20:33 "ISN'T POSSIBLE THAT EZEKIEL CHAPTER 38 AND 39,"
  • 20:36 "COULD COME TRUE AS WELL?"
  • 20:38 AND ANYTIME THAT HE DELAYS AT THIS POINT
  • 20:40 IS A MATTER OF BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE KINGDOM.
  • 20:43 AND A BIG QUESTION FOR MY WIFE AND KIDS AND I IS,
  • 20:45 WHEN WE SEE JESUS FACE TO FACE IS HE GOING TO SAY,
  • 20:48 "JOEL, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WHOLE THING WITH THE NOVEL HAS WORKED OUT. THAT'S FANTASTIC."
  • 20:52 "BUT SON, WHAT PART OF THE GREAT COMMISSION, GO YE THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS"
  • 20:57 " -YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, BECAUSE YOUR JEWISH."
  • 21:01 "BUT ALSO YOUR ENEMIES IN IRAN AND IN RUSSIA AND SUDAN -"
  • 21:04 "WHAT PART OF THE GREAT COMMISSION DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND SON?"
  • 21:07 "I MEAN, WAS IT IN GREEK?"
  • 21:09 ALRIGHT, WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS.
  • 21:10 ACTUALLY IT WAS.
  • 21:11 "BUT YOU KNOW YOU HAD ALL THOSE TRANSLATIONS."
  • 21:13 AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO BE ASHAMED OF ME OR MY WIFE OR MY BOYS.
  • 21:16 WE WANT TO USE THESE NOVELS AS GOD GIVES US OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS
  • 21:23 AND ABOUT HOW MUCH HE LOVES US AND THE WONDERFUL PLAN HE HAS FOR OUR LIVES.
  • 21:28 YOU GOT A MUSLIM ARAB LEADER, WHO SOMEBODY HAD GIVEN HIM "THE EZEKIEL OPTION".
  • 21:32 IN HIS COUNTRY, IN THE MIDDLE EAST. >>GOSH!
  • 21:34 HE WAS COMING TO WASHINGTON FOR MEETINGS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE
  • 21:37 AND AN ASSISTANT CALLED ME AND SAID,
  • 21:39 "HE'D LIKE TO HAVE DINNER WITH YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE END TIMES"
  • 21:44 I THOUGHT, "ONE WEEK WE'RE HAVING PASSOVER THIS DINING ROOM".
  • 21:48 "SURE, OKAY WE'D LOVE TO HAVE HIM FOR DINNER!" >>OH, MY!
  • 21:50 IT WAS AN AMAZING CONVERSATION.
  • 21:52 ISRAELI LEADERS, JUST TAKING ME ASIDE, "I'D LOVED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS".
  • 21:58 THE SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRIME MINISTER OF IRAQ,
  • 22:01 WHEN THE PRIME MINISTER CAME TO WASHINGTON
  • 22:04 TO GIVE HIS ADDRESS TO THE JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS,
  • 22:07 I WAS PRIVILEGED TO GO. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ENOUGH.
  • 22:09 I GET A PHONE CALL,
  • 22:11 "HEY, WOULD YOU HAVE BREAKFAST WITH THE SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRIME MINISTER."
  • 22:14 "WE UNDERSTAND YOU WRITE NOVELS THAT COME TRUE AND WE'RE CURIOUS."
  • 22:18 "WHAT DOES THE BIBLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IRAQ AND IT'S FUTURE?"
  • 22:21 OH,UMM!
  • 22:22 SO, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT THERE.
  • 22:24 DO THEY REALLY WANT TO KNOW? >>I KNOW.
  • 22:27 WELL, YOU KNOW IT WAS INTERESTING,
  • 22:29 I DID SAY TO THEM,
  • 22:30 "LOOK YOU'VE TOUGHER TIMES AHEAD FOR YOU,"
  • 22:32 "BUT IN THE NEAR TERM THE BIBLE DOES TALK ABOUT IRAQ BECOMING INCREDIBLY PROSPEROUS."
  • 22:36 REVELATION CHAPTER 18 HE'S TALKING ABOUT, OF COURSE,
  • 22:39 THE END OF THAT AND HOW BABYLON IS BEING DESTROYED
  • 22:41 AND ALL THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH ARE HORRIFIED.
  • 22:43 THAT MUST MEAN THAT THINGS AT SOME POINT QUIET DOWN AND WEALTH POURS INTO THAT COUNTRY.
  • 22:49 SO THERE'S A ZONE, THERE'S A WINDOW THAT I THINK GOD IS GOING TO SHOW FAVOR ON IRAQ
  • 22:54 AND A ZONE THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET THE GOSPEL IN THERE,
  • 22:58 CAUSE THEY NEED GOOD NEWS MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.
  • 23:01 SO YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD STAY THE COURSE IN IRAQ.
  • 23:03 I THINK THERE'S TWO TRACKS.
  • 23:05 AS BELIEVER'S THERE'S A GEOPOLITICAL TRACK THAT OUR PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS HAVE
  • 23:09 TO WIN THE WAR AND DEFEAT RADICAL ISLAM
  • 23:12 OR SEND A MESSAGE TO IRAN AND HEZBOLLAH AND HAMAS THAT WE GIVE UP.
  • 23:16 AND I DON'T WANT THAT MESSAGE TO BE SENT.
  • 23:18 SEPARATELY BELIEVERS NEED TO REALIZE THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET THE GOSPEL INTO THESE COUNTRIES.
  • 23:24 THEY ARE DYING WITHOUT ANY HOPE OF SALVATION. >>RIGHT.
  • 23:28 THEY'VE GOT NO ASSURANCE OF SALVATION
  • 23:30 AND YET MORE IRAQIS ARE COMING TO CHRIST TODAY THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.
  • 23:35 ONE PASTOR TOLD ME.HE SAID,
  • 23:37 "JOEL, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IRAQ, VERY MUCH LIKE DANIEL CHAPTER 2."
  • 23:41 AND HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, IN THAT STORY OF SHADRACH, MESHACH AND ABEDNEGO,"
  • 23:44 "NEBUCHADNEZZAR HEATS UP THE FIRES IN BABYLON 7 TIMES HOTTER THAN BEFORE."
  • 23:48 HE SAID, "WHEN YOU LOOK AT IRAQ TODAY, IT IS 7 TIMES HOTTER THAN IT WAS WHEN SADDAM WAS HERE."
  • 23:54 "WE'RE GLAD THAT SADDAM IS GONE.", HE SAID,
  • 23:56 "BUT IT IS ROUGH AND IT'S ROUGHER THAN IT WAS IN A NUMBER OF WAYS."
  • 24:00 "BUT WHAT WAS THE REST OF THAT STORY?"
  • 24:03 HE SAID, "WHEN NEBUCHADNEZZAR LOOKED INTO THAT FIERY FURNACE HE DIDN'T SEE 3 MEN",
  • 24:06 HE SAID, "THE 4TH LOOKED LIKE A SON OF THE GODS."
  • 24:09 HE SAID, "JESUS IS WALKING IN THE FIRES WITH US."
  • 24:11 "IT'S WORSE THAN EVER BEFORE BUT WE ARE SEEING SO MANY PEOPLE COME TO KNOW THE LORD."
  • 24:16 AND HE SAID, "GO BACK TO THE WEST AND TELL PEOPLE THAT GOD IS MOVING."
  • 24:29 ♪(ORCHESTRA PLAYING)♪
  • 25:34 WHAT DID JOEL SAY?HE SAID,
  • 25:35 "TELL PEOPLE THAT GOD IS MOVING."
  • 25:38 IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP OPTIMISTIC AT ONE LEVEL
  • 25:42 BUT IT ISN'T JUST RAW OPTIMISM.
  • 25:44 IT'S FASCINATING HOW AMIDST THE TURBULENCE OF TRYING TIMES
  • 25:47 GOD IS GETTING PAST THE IRON CURTAINS,
  • 25:50 HE'S GETTING INTO WORLDS UNKNOWN TO US, PREVIOUSLY UNTAPPED BY THE GOSPEL.
  • 25:56 I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER
  • 25:58 THAT IT MAY WELL BE THAT THE LORD IS GETTING INTO SOME NEW WORLDS NOW AS YOU LISTEN,
  • 26:03 AS YOU HEAR THE WORD OF GOD UNPACKED AND YOUR IMPACTED
  • 26:07 AND WONDERING IF GOD IS SAYING SOMETHING TO YOU.
  • 26:10 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, "YES".
  • 26:13 IF YOU WOULD JUST RESPOND AND SAY "YES",
  • 26:15 IF YOU WOULD REACH PAST YOUR SINS AND REACH UP TO THE NEW LIFE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU,
  • 26:20 YOU CAN BE BORN ANEW AND EXPERIENCE BRAND NEW VISTAS THAT'LL OPEN UP YOUR LIFE.
  • 26:26 ISN'T THAT TRUE SANDRA?
  • 26:27 IT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 26:29 I KNOW JOEL SAYS IT FUNNY. HE SAID,
  • 26:30 "WHAT PART OF WITNESSING DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND,"
  • 26:32 "A GREAT COMMISSION YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?"
  • 26:34 IT'S A FUNNY THING TO SAY,
  • 26:35 BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO WITNESS.
  • 26:37 WE REALLY DO NEED TO KNOW THE MESSIAH, YESHUA HA'MASHIACH.
  • 26:40 HE IS OUR MESSIAH. HE IS OUR WAY. HE IS OUR LIFE.
  • 26:43 THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
  • 26:45 GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 26:46 AND SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM,
  • 26:48 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. The Personal Battle
  2. The Battle for Time
  3. The Culture Battle
  4. The Spiritual Battle
  5. The Leader of the Evil Empire
  6. The Battle Plan
  7. The Battle Royal, Part 1
  8. The Battle Royal, Part 2

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