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Episode: “Behind the Veil” with Ergun Caner, Part 1

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  • 00:09 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
  • 00:15 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE.
  • 00:18 FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
  • 00:28 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
  • 00:35 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:37 YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:38 IT'S ONE OF MOST POPULAR GUESTS.
  • 00:40 HE'S BEEN WITH A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, ERGUN CANER DR. ERGUN CANER IS A CONVERTED MUSLIM.
  • 00:48 HE'S A BELIEVER IN THE LORD NOW AND HE WAS A MUSLIM AND NOT JUST AN ORDINARY MUSLIM, HE WAS A SUNNI MUSLIM AND HE WAS THE SON OF A MUEZZIN, THE GUY THAT YELLS FROM THE TOWER AND CALLS PEOPLE TO PRAYER AND IS AN IMPORTANT OFFICER IN ISLAM.
  • 01:03 ERGUN HOLDS HIS DOCTORATE IN MEDIEVAL HISTORY AND HE'S A FULL PROFESSOR OF THEOLOGY AND CHURCH HISTORY AT LIBERTY UNIVERSITY.
  • 01:13 HE'S WRITTEN 8 BOOKS.
  • 01:15 LISTEN, IF I DID YOUR WHOLE BACKGROUND, WE DO THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
  • 01:17 HE'S A VERY ACCOMPLISHED MAN.
  • 01:19 HE WROTE THE BOOK "UNVEILING ISLAM" WHICH REALLY WAS INFORMATIVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE READ IT.
  • 01:25 HE DEBATES MUSLIMS.
  • 01:26 HE'S DONE IT ON FOX AND CNN AND THE BBC AND SO ON.
  • 01:31 HE'S GOT A NEW BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL".
  • 01:35 ERGUN, IT SAYS ON THIS BACK COVER, IT'S VERY TEMPTING, YES SIR.
  • 01:51 THIS WAS THE WORLD OF MY MOTHER, THE WORLD OF MY GRANDMOTHER.
  • 01:55 TO THE BEST OF OUR COUNTING, 21 GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY AS TURKISH MUSLIMS.
  • 02:00 SO, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WAS MORE OF A LABOR OF LOVE THAN AN ACADEMIC THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
  • 02:09 AREN'T THEY LOSING THE TALENT AND INDUSTRY OF 50% OF THEIR SOCIETY?
  • 02:14 THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
  • 02:16 I OFTEN GET ASKED THE QUESTION, DON'T THE WOMEN IN YOUR FAMILY FEEL THAT THEY ARE OPPRESSED?
  • 02:20 BUT, WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE OPPRESSED.
  • 02:22 THIS WAS THE WAY WE WERE LIVING, THIS WAS OUR LIVES.
  • 02:24 THIS IS SOMEWHAT AKIN TO, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY.
  • 02:28 WHEN WE CAME TO AMERICA, WHEN WE SETTLED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WHAT WE SAW AS THE AMERICAN CULTURE, WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE AND IF IT WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE, IT OBVIOUSLY WAS CHRISTIAN DECADENCE BECAUSE IN OUR WORLD, WE EQUATE CHURCH AND STATE, MOSQUE AND STATE.
  • 02:44 SO WHEN WE SAW SOMETHING ON TELEVISION THAT WAS SOMEBODY SHOWING MORE SKIN THAN THEY SHOULD, THIS WAS CHRISTIANITY DOING THIS.
  • 02:51 SO IN OUR WORLD, IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD, THEY BELIEVE THAT SHROUDING THE WOMAN IN THE NIQAB, HADOR, BURQAH THOSE ARE HUGE ROBES THAT COVER THEM FROM HEAD TO TOE.
  • 03:03 VARYING COVER.
  • 03:04 THE NIQAB COVERS ONE EYE.
  • 03:06 THE HADOR LEAVES THE FACE OPEN WHICH YOU SEE IN ISRAEL ALL THE TIME, AND THE BURQAH COVER EVERYTHING INCLUDING GLOVES ON THE HANDS.
  • 03:14 IT'S THE WALKING SLEEPING BAG.
  • 03:15 YES, SHE CAN SEE OUT, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IN THROUGH THE MESH.
  • 03:18 THEY BELIEVE THAT BY SHROUDING THE WOMAN, THEY ARE PROTECTING HER PURITY AND THUS THE WOMAN IN ISLAM IS MORE PURE THAN THE SECULAR WOMAN OR THE WOMAN IN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM.
  • 03:31 ERGUN, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WOMEN, BUT I THINK DIDN'T MAKE ANY WOMAN THAT WANT TO BE COVERED HEAD TO TOE.
  • 03:37 THEY CAN'T BE HAPPY THERE.
  • 03:39 REMEMBER, MOHAMMED WAS AN ORPHAN AND RAISED BY MEN, GRANDFATHER AND UNCLE.
  • 03:44 THE ONLY WOMAN, I BELIEVE, MOHAMMED DEEPLY, TRULY LOVED WAS THE FIRST WOMAN HE MARRIED, KADIJA, 15 YEARS OLDER THAN HE WAS.
  • 03:53 SHE WAS WEALTHY, CAME FROM A CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND, WHICH IS OF INTEREST TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM.
  • 03:59 THIS WOMAN WAS HIS PROTECTOR.
  • 04:02 IT'S NOT THAT MOHAMMED DESPISED WOMEN, BUT MOHAMMED SAW WOMEN AS PROTECTED PROPERTY.
  • 04:10 THAT'S ONE OF THE CHAPTERS WE HAVE ON THE BOOK, "PROTECTED PROPERTY" THAT IS, YOU HOLD HER UP IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM, BUT, PLEASE MAKE NO MISTAKE SHE IS IN FACT, UNDER THE SLEEVE OF THE HUSBAND, TO USE OF OUR IDIOMS, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE'S IDIOMS.
  • 04:24 BUT, WHEN WE WERE IN AFGHANISTAN, WE LEARNED THAT DURING THE REIGN OF THE TALIBAN, WHERE THEY HAD THE WOMEN COMPLETELY COVERED AND WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE THEM MEDICAL CARE, BUT, THE WOMEN WERE MEETING IN BASEMENTS AND WHAT WERE THEY DOING, BUT PAINTING EACH OTHERS FACES.
  • 04:39 OF COURSE.
  • 04:40 THIS IS THE NATURE OF WOMEN.
  • 04:42 WRITTEN ON THE MOSQUES WALL IN KABAL, IN ARABIC, ARE THE WORDS FROM THE 4TH KALIF, DO NOT TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE.
  • 04:52 THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT IF YOU TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE, THE WOMAN BECOMES, BY NATURE, LIBERATED FROM ANY TYPE OF OPPRESSION.
  • 05:01 THIS IS WHY, WHEN WOMEN IN ISLAM COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR, IT IS A SENSE OF-- AN EXPLOSION OF LIBERATION.
  • 05:07 I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MY HUSBAND TO GET TO GOD.
  • 05:10 YOUR HUSBAND IN ISLAM, CAN KEEP YOU FROM ALLAH AND CAN BLOCK YOUR PRAYERS, >>FROM THE MUSLIM GOD.
  • 05:16 OF COURSE, YES.
  • 05:18 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE SLAVE AND FREE, MALE AND FEMALE.
  • 05:25 THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT LIBERATING POINTS IN CHRISTIANITY.
  • 05:30 ALRIGHT, BESIDES THE WOMEN, THE ISSUE OF THE DAY, HOLY WAR.
  • 05:36 WHAT IS REALLY, IF I'M NOT WRONG, I WOULD SAY THAT THE MUSLIMS HAVE A PLAN TO TAKE US OVER.
  • 05:43 THEY HAVE TAKEN 22 MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS.
  • 05:45 I THINK ISRAEL IS 23.
  • 05:47 I THINK THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, AMERICA, ETC, ARE NUMBERS 24 THROUGH SO AND SO AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
  • 05:54 30 YEARS AGO, AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI SAID, 30 YEARS AGO HE SAID, WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL AMERICA IS AN ISLAMIC NATION.
  • 06:01 IF YOU REMEMBER IN ESCHATOLOGY, IN PROPHECY, ISLAM'S ENTIRE PROPHECY IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
  • 06:07 ALLAH WILL COME AND JUDGE.
  • 06:09 IF YOU EVER STUDIED THE, I CALL IT THE "STAY BEHIND SERIES", THE MUSLIMS BELIEF OF THE END TIMES, NOT LEFT BEHIND, BUT, STAY BEHIND.
  • 06:16 THEY BELIEVE THAT JESUS, FOLLOWING ALLAH'S COMMAND, WILL COME BACK.
  • 06:19 JESUS WILL DO THREE THINGS: HE WILL KILL ALL THE SWINE, BREAK ALL THE CROSSES, HE WILL THEN KILL ALL THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WHO DO NOT ACCEPT ALLAH.
  • 06:28 SOME MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT HE LANDS ON A MINARET IN DAMASCUS.
  • 06:34 OTHERS BELIEVE HE COMES TO THE MT. OF OLIVES.
  • 06:36 BUT, EVERYTHING FOR JESUS' RETURN, ISA, IN ISLAM, EVERYTHING FOR HIS RETURN IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
  • 06:42 THEY HAVE TO DOMINATE.
  • 06:43 IT'S GEOPOLITICAL AS MUCH AS IT IS RELIGIOUS.
  • 06:46 I SPEAK IN CHURCHES ABOUT THIS AND WHEN I'M ASKED ABOUT THEIR RELIGION, I FIND MYSELF SAYING, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT FEELING, YOU'RE SPEAKING AND YOU'RE INSPIRED AND OUT COMES WORDS YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE, BUT I FIND MYSELF SAYING, IT'S NOT REALLY A RELIGION, FOR ALL THEIR PROTESTATIONS, IT'S A LAND GRABBING SCHEME.
  • 07:07 THE NAZIS HAD A SCHEME, AN IDEOLOGY, A COCKAMAMIE RACIAL THEORY, BUT THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES PRODUCE.
  • 07:16 THE COMMUNIST, THEY WERE THE WORKERS OWN THE, EVERYBODY'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
  • 07:21 BALONEY! THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES LANDS.
  • 07:23 MUSLIMS BEHAVE EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE A RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY.
  • 07:28 AND REMEMBER MOHAMMED'S LAST WORDS AS RECORDED IN THE HADITH, I GET IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING ISLAM A FORM OF MEDIEVAL MORMONISM.
  • 07:39 THERE ARE SO MANY PARALLELS, POLYGAMY, TURNING JESUS INTO A PROPHET, A NEW BOOK WHICH IS BASICALLY TAKING FROM THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT AND CHANGING AS YOU WISH, TOTALLY WORK CENTERED BUT ONE OF THE KEYS IS, BOTH IN MORMONISM AND IN ISLAM, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH THE PERFECT LAND.
  • 07:56 IN MORMONISM, SALT LAKE CITY BECAME THIS.
  • 07:58 IT BECAME THE KINGDOM OF EARTH, ON EARTH.
  • 08:01 IN ISLAM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PERFECTLY PURE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC WAS MOHAMMED'S DREAM.
  • 08:07 THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED THIS WAS, AFTER HIS DEATH IN 632, WHEN HE DIES, THE SPLINTERING AMONG THE ISLAMIC SECTS, BUT IF THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED TOGETHER, HIS DREAM WAS AN ISLAMIC WORLD.
  • 08:18 WHEN I WAS IN SALT LAKE CITY, I FELT VERY AT HOME AT FIRST.
  • 08:21 I MEAN, THERE IS THE BANK OF ZION, THERE'S EVEN THE DEAD SEA, SO TO SPEAK.
  • 08:26 BUT, THERE WERE NO JEWS.
  • 08:29 THE BANK OF ZION-- YOU'RE NOT REALLY WELCOME.
  • 08:33 THEY ARE A NEW CHOSEN PEOPLE AND JUST AS THEIR LAKE DOES NOT TASTE AS SALTY AS THE DEAD SEA, AND I TRIED THAT, IT DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH OF THE SALT OF THE EARTH AS THE REAL DEAD SEA.
  • 08:45 BUT, YOU SEE HOW THE MORMONS AND THE MUSLIMS BOTH TREAT THE JEW.
  • 08:47 THEY SAY THE JEW HAS BEEN REPLACED.
  • 08:50 THE NEW CHILDREN OF GOD, THE NEW CHILDREN OF ALLAH ARE THE MUSLIM IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.
  • 08:54 WELL, THE JEW HAD THE BOOK, BUT IT WAS CORRUPT.
  • 08:56 THEY CHANGED THE STORIES, IBRAHIM DOES NOT TAKE, TO THE TOP OF MT. MORIAH, ISAAC, HE TAKES ISHMAEL.
  • 09:03 ONE OF THE CELEBRATIONS, ONE OF THE EADS AND WHAT HAPPENS BY DOING SO, THE JEW IS REPLACED, THE SAME THING IN MORMONISM.
  • 09:09 IT'S REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY. I ALWAYS TEACH THAT, TOO.
  • 09:13 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPLACE CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM.
  • 09:17 YES SIR, YES SIR.
  • 09:18 CAN THEY WIN?
  • 09:20 I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T BELIEVE SO.
  • 09:21 OBVIOUSLY, SPIRITUALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN.
  • 09:24 GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US, NO, THEY WOULDN'T WIN SPIRITUALLY BUT EVEN IN THE POLITICAL SENSE, I OFTEN GET THE QUESTION, WELL, DON'T YOU THINK THAT ISLAM IS THE GREAT WHORE OF BABYLON, REVELATION 17?
  • 09:34 BUT, YOU MISUNDERSTAND, ISLAM IS AN OLIGARCHY.
  • 09:38 ISLAM IS BASED ON TOTAL SUPPRESSION, CONVERSION BY THE SWORD.
  • 09:42 MANKIND, BY IT'S VERY NATURE, HUMANKIND, BY OUR VERY NATURE, WE DON'T LIKE TO BE FORCED TO DO ANYTHING.
  • 09:52 I DON'T THINK CONVERSIONS BY THE SWORD WILL EVER WORK.
  • 09:54 I THINK THEY CAN OPPRESS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THEY CAN NEVER COMPLETELY STAMP OUT MAN'S DESIRE FOR HIS OWN FREE WILL, EVEN IN REBELLION.
  • 10:04 ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THIS WAR ON TERRORISM?
  • 10:09 IT LOOKED TO ME AS IF WE'RE ATTACKED FROM SAUDI ARABI, BY SAUDI ARABIANS, SO WE GO TO AFGHANISTAN AND WE GO TO IRAQ AND THOSE ARE-- I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I THINK WE'VE LIBERATED A GREAT MANY PEOPLE AND CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO LIVE A MUCH BETTER LIFE.
  • 10:27 BUT, WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING THE SAUDIS AND SYRIANS AND THE PLO AND THE IRANIANS, THE REAL TERRORISTS, IT SEEMS TO ME.
  • 10:37 WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL THINGS THAT I SAY.
  • 10:43 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ IS NOT ONLY NECESSARY, BUT IT IS MORAL, IT IS JUST.
  • 10:51 I AM ONE OF 1.6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WHO COME FROM A MUSLIM BACKGROUND.
  • 10:57 1.6 BILLION, I OUT OF 5 PEOPLE WHO WALK THIS EARTH.
  • 11:00 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN ONE ACT IS TRANSFORM WORLD HISTORY IN THE LAST 1300 YEARS.
  • 11:06 IF THIS GRAND EXPERIMENT OF IRAQ TAKES PLACE, IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND THIS NEW INTERIM IRAQI CONSTITUTION BECOMES THE LAW OF THE LAND, THE FIRST ISLAMIC REPUBLIC IN HISTORY TO EXCEPT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
  • 11:20 WHAT WE'VE DONE IN IRAQ IS WE'VE ALLOWED MY PEOPLE TO HEAR THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST WITHOUT BEING STONED TO DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE.
  • 11:26 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO TAKE A PAGE, IF I MAY, OUT OF ISLAMIC WISDOM, WE HAVE CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE BECAUSE THE ONE THING HAMAS, THAT ADA FAIN, ALL THE VARIOUS TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IN COMMON IS A COMMON VOICE.
  • 11:43 FOR 1300 YEARS MUSLIMS FIGHT.
  • 11:45 NOW THEY EITHER FIGHT EACH OTHER, IRAN-IRAQ WAR IN 1980'S OR THEY FIGHT AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY.
  • 11:52 SALADIN IN THE CRUSADES, SALADIN WAS BRILLIANT BECAUSE SALADIN UNITED ALL MUSLIMS, SUNNI, SUFFI, ALUITS, SHIA, HE UNITED ALL OF THEM AGAINST A COMMON IBLAS, A COMMON SATAN.
  • 12:03 THAT'S WHAT BIN LADEN HAS DONE. HE'S UNITED ALL MUSLIMS.
  • 12:07 THEY DON'T FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY, THE GREAT SHATAN, THE GREAT SATAN.
  • 12:13 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.
  • 12:17 GO AFTER THE VOICE.
  • 12:19 GO AFTER THE LEADERSHIP AND WHAT YOU END UP HAVING IS THEY WILL END UP SPLINTERING AND FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER ONCE AGAIN.
  • 12:24 WELL, THAT'S HAPPENED IN IRAQ IN A WAY.
  • 12:27 WE CUT OFF SADDAM HUSSEIN AND NOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PARTIES ARGUING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 12:30 SHIITE VERSUS SUNNI AND SUNNI VERSUS KURD AND YOU HAVE IN IRAQ, 60% OF THE COUNTRY IS SHIITE, 20% ARE SUNNI, 20% ARE KURD.
  • 12:38 THAT WILL BE AN INTERNAL CIVIL WAR.
  • 12:41 I PRAY IT DOESN'T BECOME A VIOLENT ONE, BUT IT WILL BE A CIVIL WAR FOR YEARS AND IF THEY ARE CONCENTRATING ON EACH OTHER, THEY'RE NOT COMING AFTER US.
  • 12:48 HE'S ERGUN CANER. HE'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON ISLAM.
  • 12:51 HE LIVED THE STUFF, HE ATE AND DRANK THE STUFF AS HAS HIS FAMILY FOR MANY CENTURIES.
  • 12:56 WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
  • 13:12 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST, ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
  • 13:24 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS, BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
  • 13:31 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, THUS SAYETH THE LORD GOD, I SHALL GATHER YOU FROM THE PEOPLES AND ASSEMBLE YOU OUT OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SCATTERED AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 14:01 THE WILDERNESS AND THE DRY LAND SHALL BE GLAD.
  • 14:04 THE DESERT SHALL REJOICE AND BLOSSOM AS THE ROSE.
  • 14:08 YOU SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD WHEN I BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 14:17 OF COURSE, ERGUN, WE STILL TAKE OUR TOURS, PEOPLE COME.
  • 14:20 ARAFAT'S TRYING TO MAKE IT A WAR-TORN NATION.
  • 14:25 THE LIE ALMOST FLIES, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE.
  • 14:28 PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND ISRAEL IS A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY RUNNING LIKE A WATCH.
  • 14:32 THE PALESTINIANS, THROUGH SO MANY SELF INFLICTED WOUNDS, ARE DESTITUTE ALMOST, ECONOMICALLY, MORALLY.
  • 14:41 I DON'T GET IT.
  • 14:43 BUT, WHEN WE TRAVEL THERE WE DO SEE THESE VEILED WOMEN AND I'M WONDERING IN YOUR BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL" IT'S WRITTEN BY CHRISTIAN WOMEN THAT WERE MUSLIMS?
  • 14:54 IS THAT THE IDEA?
  • 14:56 WELL, NOT JUST CHRISTIAN WOMEN WHO CAME OUT OF ISLAM, MISSIONARIES TO MUSLIMS.
  • 15:00 OH, MISSIONARIES.
  • 15:02 AND THEN SOME THAT ARE FORMER MUSLIMS.
  • 15:04 ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I WANTED TO FIND A BOOK THAT WOMEN WOULD COME UP AND SAY, WELL, I WANT SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO THE CONDITION OF WOMEN AND WHAT WE EITHER HAD WAS DEFENSES OF ISLAM, SECULAR BOOKS OR REACTIONARY WORKS, STUFF THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE, "CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY IS FALLING" TYPE STUFF.
  • 15:24 THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS A BOOK, FOR CHRISTIAN WOMEN, ABOUT MUSLIM WOMEN AND THIS VITAL BECAUSE ONE OF THE MORE RELEVANT PROTOCOLS IN MY CULTURE, THE ISLAMIC IS THIS, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CROSS-GENDER EVANGELISM.
  • 15:39 IF YOU, AS A CHRISTIAN CAME TO THE DOOR AND A MUSLIM WOMAN ANSWERS AND YOU BEGAN SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH HER, YOU HAVE EITHER DISHONORED HER FAMILY OR YOU'VE INSULTED HER HUSBAND.
  • 15:49 IT IS WOMAN TO WOMAN, MAN TO MAN IN MY CULTURE THAT THE COMMUNICATION GOES ON.
  • 15:55 BY AND LARGE THE VEIL IS THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU AS A MAN, LOOKING UPON THEIR WIVES BUT, WOMAN TO WOMAN, THEY HAVE ALL THE COMMUNICATION EVEN WITH THE HEATHENS EVEN WITH THE JEW OR THE CHRISTIAN, THE MUSLIM WOMAN IS ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE.
  • 16:08 WHAT I DID IS THIS, I PUT TOGETHER A RESEARCH PROJECT WHERE THESE WOMEN TOLD ABOUT THERE LIVES.
  • 16:14 THEY HAVE COME OUT OF SHIA, SUNNI, SUFFI AND WE HAVE ONE WHO CAME OUT OF DRUZE BACKGROUND WHO ARE NOW CHRISTIANS.
  • 16:22 WE ASKED THEM TO EXPLAIN YOU LIFE FROM BIRTH TO DEATH, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A MUSLIM CHILD, DAUGHTER, BETROTHED, YOUNG BRIDE, MOTHER, ALL THE WAY THROUGH DEATH AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW A CHRISTIAN WOMAN CAN REACH INTO THE LIFE OF A MUSLIM WOMAN AND BUILD A BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
  • 16:42 IN THAT WAY IT'S UNIQUE TO WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT THE JEWISH CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIP, BUT, I MEAN YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES.
  • 16:51 THE WORK OF THE COMPLETED JEW, I AM ONE WHO HAS COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS MESSIAH.
  • 16:56 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IN A SMALL WAY, MIRROR WHAT YOU DO.
  • 17:01 WHAT I DID, COMING OUT OF ISLAM, I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW WE DID THIS, HOW DID WE COME THIS WAY AND FOR THE WOMAN, THEY DON'T LISTEN, THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME.
  • 17:09 WHY WOULD A WOMAN, A MUSLIM WOMAN LISTEN TO ME?
  • 17:12 I'M A KAFIR AL-ASQAR, BUT SHE WILL LISTEN--, WHAT'S A KAFIR AL-ASQAR?
  • 17:17 HIGH INFIDEL.
  • 17:18 OH, WORSE THAN A NORMAL INFIDEL. >>YES.
  • 17:22 ALL THE CHRISTIANS ARE INFIDELS, BUT YOU'RE A HIGH INFIDEL.
  • 17:24 I HAVE A SPECIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL, IF THAT MAY BE.
  • 17:27 I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO HIERARCHY IN THE CHURCH, BUT ACCORDING TO THE ISLAM GROUPS--, WELL, THE CONSIDER ME, YES, THEY WON'T EVEN LISTEN TO ME, BUT THE WILL LISTEN TO THE WOMAN THAT THEY ARE WASHING THEIR CLOTHES WITH.
  • 17:37 THEY WILL LISTEN TO THAT WOMAN THAT BUILDS THAT BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
  • 17:41 AND SO, WHAT YOU DO IS UNIQUE BECAUSE, NOT ONLY THE FIRST ONE, BUT YOU BUILT THE BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
  • 17:47 I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE INTO THE LIVES OF MUSLIM PEOPLE.
  • 17:51 I SIGN THE SAME VERSE THAT YOU DO, ROMANS 9:1-3 IF IN A SMALL WAY, I COULD DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR DECADES, FOR MY PEOPLE-- YOU ARE DOING THAT IN A PRETTY BIG WAY.
  • 18:09 THIS IS PUBLISHED BY KREGEL, I GUESS I CAN GET IT ANY PLACE.
  • 18:12 "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL."
  • 18:14 WE WERE BLESSED.
  • 18:15 IT HIT THE BEST SELLER LIST IN OCTOBER.
  • 18:17 YES, I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
  • 18:19 HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING BEHIND THESE VEILS AND SEEING WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?
  • 18:23 SOMETIMES YOU WILL HEAR SOMEBODY SAY, "WELL BEHIND THE VEIL THERE IS A WOMAN WHO'S BEEN LIBERATED" AND IN MANY WAYS, MUSLIMS IN THEIR CULTURE DID ELEVATE THE POSITION OF WOMEN FROM CATTLE TO PROPERTY, BUT REMEMBER, IT'S STILL PROTECTED PROPERTY.
  • 18:37 IT'S NOT A VERY HIGH CALLING.
  • 18:40 A MAN CAN HAVE FOUR WIVES, ACCORDING TO SURAH 4 VERSE 3.
  • 18:44 HE CAN HAVE 2, 3 OR 4 WIVES BASED ON THIS VERSE.
  • 18:46 A WOMAN IS ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE HUSBAND.
  • 18:49 HOW DOES THIS WORK OUT OVER THE WHOLE SOCIETY, BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY MUCH AN EQUAL NUMBER OF WOMAN AND MEN.
  • 18:54 BUT, YOU WILL HAVE, MOHAMMED WAS MARRIED 12-13 TIMES.
  • 18:58 YOU HAVE NOT JUST HIS MARRIAGES, BUT HIS ARRANGED CONCUBINES.
  • 19:02 YOU HAVE, IN MOST ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, MEN WHO NOT ONLY HAVE WIVES, BUT IN THE SHIA WORLD, YOU HAVE MUT'A, TEMPORARY BRIDES, TEMPORARY WIVES. >>PROSTITUTES.
  • 19:13 YOU CAN HAVE ONE IN EACH CITY, A MUT'A.
  • 19:16 IT IS HORRIBLE.
  • 19:20 I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY CALL IT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, THIS IS IMMORAL AND WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEIR PREACHING.
  • 19:27 THEY DON'T LIKE OUR PRETTY WOMEN ON CNN OR FOX OR WHATEVER.
  • 19:31 WE HAVE TO LISTEN AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE WAY THEY BEHAVE.
  • 19:34 EVEN IN ETERNITY, THE MAN IS DOMINANT.
  • 19:37 YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO'S THE BOMBER?
  • 19:39 WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO STRAPS A BOMB ON?
  • 19:41 HE GETS VIRGINS.
  • 19:42 70 VIRGINS, PERPETUAL VIRGINS, WAITING ON COUCHES WITH POMEGRANATES.
  • 19:46 WHAT DOES THE WOMAN GET?
  • 19:48 I WAS OFTEN WONDERING.
  • 19:49 WHAT DOES THE FEMALE JIHADIN GET?
  • 19:51 IF YOU TELL A WOMAN THAT IF YOU STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF, THERE ARE 70 VIRGIN MEN WAITING FOR YOU.
  • 19:58 THAT'S NOT HEAVEN FOR HER.
  • 20:00 THAT WOULD BE ANNOYING.
  • 20:01 SHE'LL SPEND ETERNITY PUSHING THEM AWAY, "LEAVE ME ALONE".
  • 20:04 BUT, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE.
  • 20:07 THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE OF THE FEMALE JIHADIN.
  • 20:11 SHE IS ALLOWED TO PICK WHO WILL GO WITH HER TO PARADISE.
  • 20:15 SHE ANNOUNCES, JUST LIKE YOU SEE ON HAMAS, THEY READ IT ON VIDEO NOW, IT USED TO BE THEY WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE CITY OR THEY WOULD STAND IN THE CITY SQUARE AND THEY WOULD READ THE PROCLAMATION THAT I AM A JIHADIN.
  • 20:24 THEY SAY WHO THEY WANT TO TAKE WITH THEM TO PARADISE.
  • 20:28 THE MOTHER TAKES HER CHILDREN, THE WOMAN, HER BROTHER OR SOMEONE SHE THINKS WON'T MAKE IT WITHOUT HER HELP.
  • 20:33 SO SHE GETS REWARDED AND THEY ARE ALSO TAKEN TO PARADISE.
  • 20:37 OF COURSE, AND NOW DO YOU SEE HOW THIS APPLIES TO THE ATONEMENT?
  • 20:40 A MAN DIES FOR HIS SELFISH NEEDS IN ISLAM, A WOMAN DIES FOR HER FRIENDS.
  • 20:45 IT'S REALLY NICER.
  • 20:47 CHRIST DIES FOR THE WORLD.
  • 20:49 I USE THAT AS A BRIDGE.
  • 20:51 THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, THAT'S LOVELY.
  • 20:53 I TELL THE MUSLIM WOMAN, WELL, SEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF, JESUS STRAPPED HIMSELF TO A CROSS AND HE DIED FOR HIS FRIENDS.
  • 20:59 WHY DON'T THEY SEE HIM AS A SHAHID?
  • 21:01 HE IS A MARTYR.
  • 21:02 HE WAS, BUT IT WAS COSMIC DEATH.
  • 21:06 MUSLIMS ALWAYS ASKS THE QUESTION, "WHY DOES SOMEONE ELSE HAVE TO DIE FOR ME?"
  • 21:10 REMEMBER, ISLAM IS COMPLETELY WORKS BASED.
  • 21:12 IN THE 23RD CHAPTER OF THE QURAN SAYS, AND IF YOU DIE WITH MORE GOOD THAN BAD, THEN ALLAH FORGETS THE BAD.
  • 21:19 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, IN THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT, WHAT DO WE HAVE?
  • 21:23 GOD DOESN'T FORGET IT, GOD PAID IT.
  • 21:26 THE DEATH ON THE CROSS WAS THE WRATH OF GOD POURED OUT ON THE BACK.
  • 21:38 IT ISN'T A PARDONED OR COMMUTED SENTENCE, HE PAID IT.
  • 21:41 IT IS SATISFIED, THE LAW IS SATISFIED.
  • 21:44 EXACTLY, THIS PROPITIATION SPEAKS TO THE HEART OF THE MUSLIM BECAUSE YOU SAY, WAIT, ALLAH ISN'T JUST IF HE JUST FORGETS WHAT YOU DID 49% OF THE TIME.
  • 21:53 BUT, GOD IS JUST, IF CHRIST DIED TO FULFILL, TO PAY, TO PROPITIATE, TO REDEEM.
  • 22:00 THIS CONCEPT IS STARTING TO WORK.
  • 22:02 WE ARE SEEING REVIVAL AMONG OUR PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A MILLENNIA.
  • 22:05 YOU'RE WRITING A CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON THE QURAN, ARE YOU NOT?
  • 22:09 IT'S THE BIGGEST PROJECT WE'VE EVER DONE.
  • 22:12 MY BROTHER AND I, MY BROTHER TEACHES AT SOUTHEASTERN SEMINARY AND I TEACH AT LIBERTY.
  • 22:16 A MILLION WORD COMMENTARY ON THE ENTIRE QURAN, CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON EVERY VERSE ON THE QURAN.
  • 22:24 A MILLION WORDS IS A LOT OF WORDS.
  • 22:26 WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT THAN WE EXPECTED.
  • 22:30 THEY WENT AFTER SALMAN RUSHDIE FOR ONE VERSE, WHEN HE QUOTED FROM THE 53RD SURAH OF THE QURAN.
  • 22:38 BUT WE'RE DOING FOR CHRISTIANS SO THAT WHEN YOU AND I HEAR MUSLIM SAY, AH, "BUT, THE QURAN SAYS", THAT WE CAN GO TO ONE TEXT AND FIND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, WHY WERE THEY QUOTING THIS?
  • 22:51 WHAT DOES THE MUSLIM THINK ABOUT THIS AND HOW DOES THE CHRISTIAN RESPOND TO THIS.
  • 22:55 NOW LOOK, WHAT ABOUT THE SALMAN RUSHDIE EFFECT ON YOU AND YOUR BROTHER.
  • 22:59 WELL, WE LIVE IN AMERICA. I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
  • 23:02 I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
  • 23:04 BRITNEY SPEARS CAN BE PRESIDENT, JANET JACKSON CAN BE PRESIDENT, I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
  • 23:09 I'M AN IMMIGRANT, RIGHT, BUT, I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN PROUDLY BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE IN AMERICA IS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
  • 23:16 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM MEANS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MOSQUE AND TELL THEM THAT JESUS SAVES.
  • 23:20 THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO STAND IN THEIR MOSQUE AND WORSHIP ALLAH, A DIFFERENT GOD.
  • 23:24 A PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP NOTHING IF THEY WISH.
  • 23:27 ALL I ASK IS THEY GIVE US THE SAME RIGHT IN THEIR COUNTRIES THAT WE AFFORD THEM HERE IN AMERICA.
  • 23:32 A LITTLE FREEDOM-- ISLAM HAS RELIGIOUS TOLERATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
  • 23:38 THEY TOLERATE CHRISTIANS IN SYRIA, SAUDI ARABIA, THEY ALLOW CHRISTIAN, WHO ARE ALREADY CHRISTIANS, TO ENTER THEIR COUNTRIES, BUT YOU CANNOT BUILD A CHURCH.
  • 23:47 YOU CAN NOT TELL A MUSLIM ABOUT CHRIST OR WIN A MUSLIM TO CHRIST.
  • 23:50 TAKE THAT SAME THOUGHT TO JUDAISM, THEY DON'T ALLOW JEWS, DO THEY?
  • 23:53 NO. >>I CAN'T IMAGINE BUILDING A SYNAGOGUE.
  • 23:55 I FIND THIS SO ODD, SO AMAZING. EVERY TIME I SIT WITH YOU, I THINK OF EVERYTHING I WAS TAUGHT AS A CHILD UNTIL I WAS ALMOST 20, ABOUT THE JEW, THE VISCERAL HATRED THAT WE HAD FOR THE JEWS AND NOW, I FIRST STARTED READING THROUGH THE BIBLE LIKE A TYPICAL NEW BELIEVER, STARTED WITH MATTHEW AND I KEPT HEARING ALL THESE REFERENCES TO THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 24:19 GOD HAD TO DO A SECOND WORK IN MY LIFE, NOT A SALVIFIC WORK.
  • 24:24 BUT, GOD INSTILLED IN ME, A LOVE FOR THE JEW WHERE THERE HAD BEEN HATRED.
  • 24:30 WHERE I HAD BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE, WHERE I HAD BEEN RAISED, "AH, THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD OF OUR CHILDREN", WE WERE TAUGHT THIS, THAT THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD LIABLE.
  • 24:38 AND IT TURNS AROUND THAT THEY ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, THE PRIEST NATION.
  • 24:42 SURE.
  • 24:43 GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS CHILDREN.
  • 24:45 GOD HAS ALWAYS LOVED HIS CHILDREN.
  • 24:47 NOW I FIND MYSELF IN THE POSITION WHERE, I GET TO NOT ONLY START WATCHING YOUR PROGRAM AS A YOUNG BOY, AS A YOUNG BELIEVER, BUT I GET TO SIT ACROSS THE DESK WITH YOU.
  • 24:55 IT'S MY PRIVILEGE.
  • 24:57 THIS IS SO AVERAGE, THAT SOMEBODY COMES TO LOVE THE JEW BECAUSE HE COMES TO THE LORD.
  • 25:06 I DON'T' KNOW, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE IDEA, WHEN I GO TO CHURCHES,ONE OUT OF 2,000 CHURCHES IN SOME STATES WANTS TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT ISRAEL AND PROPHECY IN THE JEWISH NATION, THE COMING KINGDOM AND THE OTHERS DON'T CARE?
  • 25:21 WHY DO SOME CHRISTIANS LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE? >>WHY SOME DON'T?
  • 25:26 WELL, HERE WE GO BACK A TIE TO THE MUSLIM WORLD.
  • 25:29 IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED MBB, MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
  • 25:34 A LOT OF MBB STILL HAVE THIS VESTIGE OF HATRED FOR THE JEW, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WERE TAUGHT, RAISED THIS WAY.
  • 25:42 SO, WHAT DO THEY DO?
  • 25:44 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING ANYBODY, CERTAINLY THE CHILDREN OF GOD?
  • 25:47 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING THE GOD WHO CALLS HIMSELF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB?
  • 25:52 WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY.
  • 25:55 THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY THAT PUSHES THE JEW OUT OF THE DOOR, REPLACES THE JEW WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
  • 26:01 IN ISLAM, THEY REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE MUSLIM.
  • 26:04 IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD, THESE CHURCHES REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE CHURCH.
  • 26:08 IF YOU CAN REPLACE THE JEW, HE'S NO LONGER THE APPLE IN GOD'S EYE.
  • 26:11 IF YOU CAN REPLACE HIM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOVE HIM.
  • 26:14 HE'S JUST AS RIGHT ON THAT, AS HE IS ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
  • 26:17 HE'S ERGUN CANER.
  • 26:19 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATEST THREAT TO ISRAEL, HIS THEOLOGICAL HOLOCAUST THEORIES, THE SHARIA, THE AWFUL LAW OF THE MUSLIMS.
  • 26:32 WE'LL TAKE UP THE SUBJECT OF BIN LADEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS ABOUT THIS MUSLIM-JEWISH-CHRISTIAN THING.
  • 26:42 WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE MUSLIMS, THAT'S, IF ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE REASONS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GUEST LIKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
  • 26:56 WE'VE HAD OTHERS, WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM, MBB MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
  • 27:01 THEY ARE LOVELY BELIEVERS, JUST EQUAL TO ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN.
  • 27:09 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
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