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Episode: “Hated of All Nations” with Tommy Ice
Series: “Age of Terror Continued”

Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Hated of All Nations” with Tommy Ice (9/12)

  • 00:28 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:29 I'M BACK AFTER MY BYPASS OPERATION AND BY THE WAY, THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS.
  • 00:33 I TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AND I FORGOT TO THANK YOU.
  • 00:37 I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CARDS, >>THE LETTERS, THE PRAYERS.
  • 00:40 I WROTE IN ONE OF MY LETTERS WE >>SEND OUT, I ALWAYS KNEW I HAD PLENTY OF SUPPORTERS,
  • 00:47 I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THAT MANY FRIENDS.
  • 00:49 THAT'S TERRIFIC.
  • 00:50 MY BROKEN HEART IS FIXED AND THE DOCTOR SAYS I MIGHT HAVE 20 MORE >>YEARS, SO STAY TUNED.
  • 00:57 WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
  • 00:57 DURING THE SIX WEEKS WE WERE >>OFF, I MEAN, I WAS OFF, WE RAN >>NEW PROGRAMMING ANYWAY.
  • 01:04 WE KEEP IT AHEAD OF TIME AND >>THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO CONCERN >>ANTI-SEMITISM.
  • 01:11 WE'RE GOING TO START AT THE YAD VASHEM IN JERUSALEM,
  • 01:14 THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST >>WHERE EVERY UNIVERSITY GRADUATE IN ISRAEL HAS TO GO THROUGH IT
  • 01:19 AND EVERY ONE OF MY TOURISTS HAS >>TO GO THROUGH IT.
  • 01:22 WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT THE >>GERMANS DID BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR >>BEYOND ANYTHING IN HISTORY,
  • 01:29 SO COMPLETELY CRAZY AND MURDEROUS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STUDY IT.
  • 01:34 THEN THE ANTI-SEMITISM CONTINUED >>ALL THROUGH HISTORY, THEY DIDN'T INVENT IT.
  • 01:41 PHARAOH INVENTED IT, I GUESS, OR EVEN EARLIER.
  • 01:42 IT'S ENVY, IT'S THE DEVIL, BUT IN ANY CASE, TOMMY ICE IS GOING TO BE WITH US.
  • 01:48 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN.
  • 01:49 HE'S NOT JEWISH, BUT HE'S WRITTEN A TERRIFIC BOOK ON ANTI-SEMITISM,
  • 01:52 ANALYZED THE THING THOROUGHLY >>AND WITH HIS TERRIFIC BIBLICAL >>KNOWLEDGE,
  • 01:58 YOU COULD SAY A LOT TO THE IDEA THAT THIS REALLY IS THE BATTLE >>OF JOB 1.
  • 02:03 THE DEVIL'S GOING TO AND FRO LOOKING FOR TROUBLE IN THE WORLD.
  • 02:07 THE LORD SAID, HAS THOU CONSIDERED BY SERVANT JOB,
  • 02:10 A TYPE OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE, A CHOSEN PEOPLE
  • 02:13 AND THE DEVIL SAYS, AH, JOB IS RICH,
  • 02:15 JUST TAKE AWAY WHAT HE HAS, HE'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
  • 02:19 HE DID NOT CURSE GOD.
  • 02:21 HE SAID, YE THOUGH HE SLAY ME, >>YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
  • 02:26 SO, LET'S GO NOW TO JERUSALEM AND THE YAD VASHEM.
  • 02:30 WE'RE AT YAD VASHEM THIS MORNING,
  • 02:33 THAT'S THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST IN JERUSALEM.
  • 02:36 THE NAME IS LIKE A HAND AND MONUMENT,
  • 02:39 A NAME FOR THOSE WHO DIED NAMELESS IN VARIOUS HOLOCAUSTS THROUGH THE AGES.
  • 02:46 THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE, BUT, THIS ONE COMMEMORATES >>ESPECIALLY THE WWII HOLOCAUST.
  • 02:52 THE RELIEF BEHIND ME IS THE JEWS >>LEAVING A GHETTO.
  • 02:55 IT DOESN'T EVEN IDENTIFY WHAT GHETTO.
  • 02:58 THERE'VE BEEN GHETTOS FROM PHARAOH'S EGYPT
  • 03:00 ALL THE WAY TO WARSAW IN WWII AND THE JEWS TRUDGING OUT OF THEM MUCH LIKE WE SEE HERE.
  • 03:06 ANTI-SEMITISM IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE GOD CHOSE >>THE JEWS.
  • 03:15 JOB 1 TELLS ABOUT IT AND THERE'S A BATTLE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN,
  • 03:41 IN OTHER WORDS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.
  • 03:54 THAT IS, JOB IS LIKE A CHOSEN PERSON, LIKE A JEWISH PERSON IF YOU WILL,
  • 03:59 THAT HE IS RIGHTEOUS, HE WORSHIPS GOD, HE DOES NO EVIL, HE AVOIDS IT.
  • 04:21 HE SAYS, JOB IS RICH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF HIS BEING FAITHFUL >>TO GOD.
  • 04:26 HE'S WEALTHY.
  • 04:27 HE HAS NO PROBLEMS AND SO HE EASILY TURNS TO GOD.
  • 04:51 THE DIALOGUES IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
  • 04:52 SATAN SAYS RICH PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM,
  • 04:55 BUT, TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
  • 04:58 AND GOD IN EFFECT SAYS, ALRIGHT >>I'M GOING TO LET YOU DO IT,
  • 05:00 BUT IF YOU THINK THAT JOB WILL >>CURSE ME TO MY FACE, YOU DON'T KNOW JOB.
  • 05:07 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE READ THAT TRAGIC BOOK OF JOB
  • 05:10 AND EVERYTHING IS TAKEN AWAY >>FROM HIM, HE'S SICK, HE'S LYING >>ON THE GROUND WITH BOILS,
  • 05:14 HIS FRIENDS ADVISE HIM THAT IT'S HIS SINS IN QUESTION AND SO ON.
  • 05:20 NONE OF THAT IS RIGHT.
  • 05:21 HE'S SIMPLY A PAWN IN A GIANT CHESS GAME AND MAYBE ALL OF US ARE,
  • 05:25 BUT HE DOES NOT EVER CURSE GOD >>TO HIS FACE.
  • 05:29 JOB ENDS UP SAYING, AT HIS WORSE >>TIME, YE, THOUGH HE SLAY ME, YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
  • 05:37 THE JEWISH PEOPLE STILL TRUST IN >>GOD EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN SLAIN AND SLAIN AGAIN.
  • 05:43 THEY'VE BEEN HATED AND PEOPLE HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY
  • 05:48 TO KILL THEM, TO BREAK THEIR >>TEMPLES DOWN,
  • 05:52 TO GET RID OF THEM AS WE'RE SEEING IN TODAY'S WORLD.
  • 05:56 IT'S NOT BATTLES I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.
  • 06:01 THOSE ARE ROUTINE WITH COUNTRIES.
  • 06:02 IT'S THE IDEA THAT THE JEWS HAVE >>BEEN AROUND AND BEEN CHOSEN
  • 06:06 AND ARE THE WORLD'S OLDEST PEOPLE, BY FAR.
  • 06:09 IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE, THEN TELL ME ANOTHER PEOPLE
  • 06:13 THAT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD FOR 4000 YEARS.
  • 06:16 THE CHINESE ARE AN OLD PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT SAY, THEY'VE BEEN OVER >>THERE FOREVER AND EVER,
  • 06:20 BUT, THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR RELIGION A HUNDRED TIMES.
  • 06:22 WHAT WOULD AN ANCIENT CONFUCIAN CHINESE HAVE TO SAY TO A MODERN CHINESE COMMUNIST FROM BEIJING?
  • 06:28 THERE'S BEEN 25 RELIGIONS BETWEEN, I SUPPOSE.
  • 06:32 YOU KNOW THEY FOUND AN ALTAR FROM JOSHUA'S TIME, 35 CENTURIES AGO,
  • 06:40 AN ALTAR WAS CARVED IN THE ANCIENT HEBREW LANGUAGE
  • 06:44 AND IT'S THE SAME PRAYER YOU'D >>CARVE ON AN ALTAR NOW
  • 06:47 AND IT'S FOUND IN THE EARTH OVER >>HERE SHOWING, WHAT CAN I SAY?
  • 06:54 THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 200 YEARS HISTORY
  • 06:58 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 4000 YEARS HERE.
  • 07:00 IF THE BIBLE HAD ONLY ONE PROPHECY, THAT THE PEOPLE GOD CHOSE WILL SURVIVE UNTIL NOW,
  • 07:07 IT WOULD BE A VALUABLE BOOK >>OF PROPHECY, THAT'S ALL THERE IS >>TO THAT.
  • 07:11 IN ANY CASE, LET ME MENTION SOME OF THE ANTI-SEMITES OF THE PAST >>AND GIVE THEM DUE CREDIT.
  • 07:17 OF COURSE, PHARAOH IN EGYPT, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING,
  • 07:20 WHO ENSLAVED THE PEOPLE 400 YEARS.
  • 07:21 NEBUCHADNEZZAR CAME AND CONQUERED JUDAH AND TOOK AWAY THE TRIBES,
  • 07:29 BUT HE ALSO STOPPED FOR THE >>LONG, EXPENSIVE, DIFFICULT TASK
  • 07:34 OF TEARING DOWN SOLOMON'S GREAT TEMPLE, A WONDER OF THE ANCIENT >>WORLD, STONE BY STONE.
  • 07:41 IT MUST HAVE TAKEN YEARS.
  • 07:42 IT WAS A TERRIBLY HARD JOB.
  • 07:44 ANTIOCHUS, WHO CAME IN 165, NOT ONLY RAIDED THE TEMPLE,
  • 07:49 TOOK OVER THE PLACE AND BECAME IN EFFECT, A DICTATOR OF ISRAEL,
  • 07:53 BUT, HE SACRIFICED A PIG ON THE ALTAR.
  • 07:55 THIS IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY >>TO MAKE SURE THE JEWS ARE COMPLETELY HATED.
  • 08:02 AFTER THE LORD CAME, IN 70 A.D., TITUS TORE DOWN HEROD'S TEMPLE,
  • 08:08 THE SECOND TEMPLE TO BE TORN DOWN AND THAT WAS A JOB.
  • 08:12 IT TOOK HEROD GENERATIONS TO REALLY COMPLETE THE PLACE
  • 08:16 AND IT WAS FOUR ACRES OF STONE CONSTRUCTION AND IT TOOK TEAMS >>OF HORSES
  • 08:20 AND HOOKS AND BLOCK AND TACKLE AND ENDLESS WORK AGAIN TO LEVEL >>IT TO THE GROUND
  • 08:26 TO FULFILL THE PROPHECY OF THE >>MESSIAH WHO SAID
  • 08:27 THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE ONE >>STONE UPON ANOTHER THAT SHALL NOT BE THROWN DOWN.
  • 08:34 A GREAT DISASTER.
  • 08:35 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED, JEWISH PEOPLE, IN 5 MONTH'S TIME,
  • 08:40 AN UNARMED NATION TRAPPED IN THE >>TEMPLE SITE VERSUS THE ROMAN >>LEGIONS WITH THEIR LONG SPEARS.
  • 08:45 AFTER THE TEMPLE'S TORN DOWN, THE JEWS ARE STILL TRYING TO WORSHIP,
  • 08:52 PROBABLY AT THE WESTERN WALL.
  • 08:54 THE RETAINING WALLS DOWN BELOW >>WEREN'T TORN DOWN.
  • 08:56 THEY HOLD THE MOUNTAIN TOGETHER, BUT SINCE THEY'RE A REAL RELIC >>OF THE ANCIENT TEMPLE,
  • 09:02 THE JEWS WORSHIP THERE, I GUESS >>AND THE WORSHIP THERE TODAY.
  • 09:06 THE EMPEROR HADRIAN WOULD HAVE >>NONE OF THAT.
  • 09:10 HE CAME INTO THE TEMPLE SITE, >>HE PUT THE TEMPLE OF JUPITER UP >>THERE ON THE PLATFORM.
  • 09:15 THIS IS GOING OUT OF THE WAY, THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE,
  • 09:18 THIS IS TO MAKE A WHOLE TEMPLE >>IN SOME FOREIGN LAND
  • 09:21 SOME BACK-WATER PROVINCE OF THE >>ROMAN EMPIRE
  • 09:23 IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY TO TRY >>TO DIG AT THE JEWS
  • 09:27 AND THE CRUELEST THING HE DID WAS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY TO PALESTINE.
  • 09:32 WE STILL HAVE THIS ANTI-SEMITIC >>TERM WITH US TODAY,
  • 09:37 A PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS SPURIOUSLY.
  • 09:40 BUT, STILL AND ALL, THEY TAKE THE TERM BECAUSE IT'S ANTI-JEWISH.
  • 09:44 IT WAS ORIGINALLY INVENTED AS THE NAME FROM THE ERA OF THE PHILISTINES,
  • 09:50 WHO, BY THE WAY WEREN'T ARABS, >>THEY WERE GREEKS.
  • 09:52 THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PHILISTINES
  • 09:54 AND THE ARAB WHO TODAY CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS.
  • 09:57 HADRIAN MADE SURE THE PLACE WAS >>CALLED PALESTINE
  • 10:01 AND THE NAME STUCK ALL THE WAY >>TO THE 20TH CENTURY.
  • 10:03 THE CRUSADERS CAME WITH LONG SUPPLY LINES FROM ENGLAND, SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY
  • 10:08 AND THEY MARCHED THROUGH EUROPE >>AND THE SLAUGHTERED JEWS EVERYWHERE.
  • 10:12 THEY WERE COMING TO TAKE THE HOLY LAND BACK FROM THE INFIDELS,
  • 10:17 BUT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, >>THE JEWS WEREN'T THE INFIDELS.
  • 10:19 THAT'S PRETTY BAD BIBLE READING.
  • 10:21 PERHAPS YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT FROM THE MUSLIMS,
  • 10:23 IT'S THE REVERSE OF WHAT WE SEE TODAY.
  • 10:26 TODAY THE MUSLIMS CALL US JEWS >>AND CHRISTIAN, "INFIDELS",
  • 10:31 BUT BACK THEN THEY CALL THE JEWS >>AND MUSLIMS "INFIDELS",
  • 10:35 THESE CHRISTIAN ARMIES WITH MORE >>LONG SPEARS
  • 10:37 AND JUST MURDERING PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND OCCUPYING >>JERUSALEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
  • 10:45 GIVE PROPER CREDIT TO THE TURKS >>WHO RODE IN HERE IN 1517.
  • 10:49 I ALWAYS POINT OUT WHEN I GET TO THIS PLACE IN ALL THAT HISTORY,
  • 10:52 THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME COLUMBUS >>DISCOVERED AMERICA.
  • 10:56 SO, THE JEWS REALLY ARE A PRETTY OLD PEOPLE.
  • 10:57 THE TURKS TOOK OVER AND KEPT THIS PLACE FOR 4 CENTURIES.
  • 11:00 THEY CUT OUT THE TREES, THEY MADE TIES FOR THEIR RAILROADS WITH THE TREES,
  • 11:05 BUT THEY DIDN'T PLANT ANYTHING >>AND TURNED THE PLACE IN THE GOD-FORSAKEN WILDERNESS
  • 11:09 WITH SWAMPS AND DESERT LAND >>AND SO ON, CHANGED THE ECOLOGY >>OF ISRAEL, IF YOU WILL
  • 11:15 AND HAD TO BE CHANGED BACK WHEN >>THE JEWS RETURNED IN 1948.
  • 11:19 AFTER WWI THE BRITISH TOOK OVER >>THE PLACE.
  • 11:22 THEY WERE ALSO EXTREMELY UNKIND >>TO THE JEWS, THEY STILL ARE.
  • 11:25 THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY LOVE LOST >>BETWEEN BRITISH PEOPLE AND JEWISH PEOPLE
  • 11:31 AND IN OUR OWN DAY, BRINGING IT >>RIGHT UP TO DATE,
  • 11:33 EVEN IN AMERICA THE ANTI-SEMITISM, I SPEAK OF ANTI-SEMITISM NOW,
  • 11:38 NOT TAKING A POSITION BETWEEN >>ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS OR >>ANYTHING,
  • 11:41 IT'S SIMPLE JEW HATRED OF THE >>KIND YOU GET FROM THE NEW YORK >>TIMES, THE WASHINGTON POST,
  • 11:45 CNN, THE NETWORKS PERSONALITIES >>THAT WE LISTEN TO AND WERE TAUGHT BY,
  • 11:51 PAT BUCHANAN, PETER JENNINGS, ROBERT NOVAK,
  • 11:54 PEOPLE LIKE THIS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY JUST LIKE THOSE CONQUERORS OF OLD,
  • 11:59 JUST TO SAY SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT >>THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
  • 12:03 THAT'S ANTI-SEMITISM.
  • 12:06 IT'S BEEN WITH US FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL
  • 12:07 AND IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD AND SATAN AND THE FACT THAT THESE JEWISH >>PEOPLE ARE CHOSEN.
  • 12:15 AS TEVIA SAID IN "FIDDLER ON THE ROOF"
  • 12:17 GOD, CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR AWHILE.
  • 12:34 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
  • 12:39 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
  • 12:43 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE >>INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
  • 12:48 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
  • 12:52 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
  • 12:55 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE >>THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
  • 12:59 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
  • 13:05 WELL, SADLY THE SUBJECT OF ANTI-SEMITISM JUST DOESN'T GO AWAY.
  • 13:10 IT'S ON SOME PLACES IN THE WORLD >>AS VIRULENT TODAY
  • 13:13 AS IT WAS IN THE HOLOCAUST THAT >>CREATED THAT YAD VASHEM AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.
  • 13:20 HERE IN THE QUIET SUBURBS OF DALLAS, WE FOUND DEFACING OF A BUILDING
  • 13:26 AT A MESSIANIC CONGREGATION, BARUCH HASHEM,
  • 13:29 THERE'S AN IMPLIED COMPLIMENT THERE, THEY ARE MESSIANICS, HEBREW CHRISTIAN, SO TO SAY,
  • 13:35 BUT THERE WAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO >>CONVICT THEM OF THE JEWISH,
  • 13:38 SO THEY WERE TREATED AS JEWS AND THE BUILDING DEFACED.
  • 13:42 A VERY SAD THING.
  • 13:43 WE WENT THERE AND WE TALKED TO >>SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CONGREGATION
  • 13:47 ABOUT THE AWFUL THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN THERE AND THEIR FEELINGS >>ABOUT THEM.
  • 13:52 WE HAVE A HOME SCHOOL CO-OP HERE >>AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
  • 13:55 THE CHILDREN MEET ONCE A WEEK
  • 13:56 AND MONDAY MORNING IS WHEN THE GRAFFITI WAS DISCOVERED ON THE BUILDING
  • 14:01 AND WHEN THE CHILDREN ARRIVED MONDAY MORNING,
  • 14:04 THIS WAS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY SAW.
  • 14:07 THE PERSECUTION OF JEWS WORLD WIDE,
  • 14:10 IT BRINGS IT VERY HOME TO YOU.
  • 14:12 IT'S NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S NOT EVEN DOWN TOWN
  • 14:14 OR ANOTHER LOCATION, IT'S RIGHT HERE IN YOUR HOME
  • 14:17 AND SO AS A FAMILY, AS WE KNOW, >>IF SOMEONE VANDALIZED THEIR OWN HOUSE,
  • 14:22 THE FAMILY FEELS IT MUCH >>MORE SO WHEN YOU READ SOMETHING >>IN THE NEWS
  • 14:26 OR READ SOMETHING IN THE PAPER, >>OR YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE NEWS.
  • 14:28 I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, ARE REGARDING THE SLOGAN BACK HERE IS,
  • 14:31 THESE CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN JEWISH HOMES AND BELIEVING IN YESHUA.
  • 14:40 IT'S VERY NATURAL FOR THEM.
  • 14:41 WHERE AS IN MY GENERATION, >>GROWING UP IN A MORE TRADITIONAL >>JEWISH HOME
  • 14:45 AND THEN COMING TO FAITH IN YESHUA IS A WHOLE CHANGE.
  • 14:49 BUT, FOR THEM THEY WERE >>WONDERING, DON'T THEY KNOW THAT >>YESHUA WAS A JEW
  • 14:55 AND THAT HE'S THE JEWISH MESSIAH?
  • 14:57 IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR "AGAINST SOMETHING"
  • 14:59 IS THEIR STRONGER MOTIVATION >>VERSUS BEING FOR SOMETHING THAT >>WOULD BE SO POSITIVE.
  • 15:13 WELL, OUR GUEST TODAY IS TOMMY ICE.
  • 15:16 HE IS ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.
  • 15:17 I DON'T HAVE YOUR BIOGRAPHY IN >>FRONT OF ME.
  • 15:19 NEVER MIND, HE'S BEEN EVERYWHERE >>AND DONE EVERYTHING.
  • 15:23 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN OF SOME NOTE.
  • 15:24 TOMMY, THIS SUBJECT OF >>ANTI-SEMITISM, YOU HAVE PREPARED >>A BOOK ON THE THING.
  • 15:31 WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT IT?
  • 15:32 WELL, THE BOOK IS CALLED "THE CASE FOR ZIONISM"
  • 15:36 AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING, I THINK SINCE 9-11, ZOLA,
  • 15:39 IS IN EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY, >>WHICH HISTORICALLY, AS WE KNOW,
  • 15:44 YOU DOCUMENTED IN YOUR NEWSLETTER
  • 15:46 ABOUT HOW YOU USED TO GO SPEAK HERE AND YOU USED TO SPEAK THERE
  • 15:48 AND ALL OF THOSE "HERES AND >>THERES" ARE NOT AS FREQUENT AS >>THEY USED TO BE.
  • 15:53 NO, DRYING UP.
  • 15:54 AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE IS A SHIFT, NOT JUST IN THE WORLD, >>WHICH IS OCCURRING,
  • 16:00 BUT WITHIN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY.
  • 16:01 LIBERALS HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH >>ANTI-ZIONISTIC FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
  • 16:06 BY ZIONISM, WE MEAN PEOPLE WHO >>BELIEVE THAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE IN THE LAND.
  • 16:10 THAT ENCOMPASSED JEWS AND >>GENTILES WHO BELIEVE THAT WAY.
  • 16:14 WE'RE SEEING--
  • 16:15 GOD IS A ZIONIST, I ONCE POINTED >>OUT IN THE NEWSLETTER.
  • 16:18 I DIDN'T GET MUCH OF AN ARGUMENT.
  • 16:19 HE WOULD FAVOR THE JEWS BEING IN THE LAND.
  • 16:22 IT'S PART OF HIS PLAN.
  • 16:23 UNTIL THE MODERN ZIONIST MOVEMENT AMONG EVANGELICALS,
  • 16:27 THEY USED TO CALL THIS "RESTORATIONISM".
  • 16:29 AS FAR BACK AS THE LATE 1500S, >>FOR EXAMPLE, IN ENGLAND,
  • 16:33 WHEN THEY TRANSLATED THE BIBLE >>INTO THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
  • 16:36 AND PEOPLE, REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME,
  • 16:38 WERE READING THE BIBLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1500 YEAR IN THE >>HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.
  • 16:42 BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IN THE MIDDLE AGES, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 16:45 THE BRITISH EXPELLED THE JEWS IN 1290 AND THEN CHRISTIANITY WAS ROMAN CATHOLICISM,
  • 16:52 STAINED GLASS WINDOWS, THE 12 >>STATIONS OF THE CROSS AND MASS
  • 16:55 AND PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THE >>STORIES AND THE DETAILS OF THE >>OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 16:59 THEY KNEW SOME OF THE BIG ONES LIKE THE FALL AND FLOOD AND SOME >>OF THOSE.
  • 17:02 BUT, THEY DIDN'T KNOW KINGS AND CHRONICLES AND JOSHUA AND JUDGES.
  • 17:05 WHEN THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CONTINENT OF EUROPE,
  • 17:09 AS WELL, TO A LESSER DEGREE, STARTED READING THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES,
  • 17:14 THEY BEGAN TO IDENTIFY WITH ISRAEL
  • 17:15 AND THEY WOULD TAKE EVENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THEIR COUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE THE SPANISH ARMADA.
  • 17:21 THE BRITISH SAID WE'RE KIND OF >>LIKE ISRAEL OVER HERE,
  • 17:24 THIS SMALL COUNTRY AND WE'RE >>BEING ATTACKED BY OUR ENEMIES,
  • 17:26 NOT THAT THEY SAID "WE'RE >>ISRAEL", BUT LIKE WE DO TODAY,
  • 17:30 WE MAKE AN ANALOGY BETWEEN EVENTS OF THE DETAIL THAT >>HAPPENED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 17:35 LO AND BEHOLD, THEY STARTED BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
  • 17:38 AND THEY STARTED BELIEVING THAT THE JEWS WOULD ONE DAY RETURN TO >>THE LAND.
  • 17:43 THERE WAS A GUY IN THE LATE 1500S NAMED FRANCIS KETT
  • 17:48 WHO HAD A BACHELOR'S AND >>MASTER'S DEGREE FROM CAMBRIDGE
  • 17:50 WHO WROTE A COUPLE OF PAGES IN A >>BOOK SAYING THE JEWS WOULD RETURN TO THE LAND.
  • 17:55 WELL, GUESS WHAT, WITHIN ONE >>MONTH HE WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE >>FOR TEACHING THAT.
  • 18:01 THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES IT SO CLEARLY.
  • 18:04 I KNOW, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS >>COMING BACK IN A PARLANCE
  • 18:07 AND BY THE EARLY 1600S WITH THE >>RISE OF THE PURITAN MOVEMENT,
  • 18:10 ALMOST ALL THE PURITANS WERE BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
  • 18:13 AND WERE STARTING TO WRITE BOOKS >>AND THINGS ABOUT ISRAEL RETURNING TO THE LAND.
  • 18:19 IN FACT, THERE WAS A GUY NAMED >>SIR HENRY FINCH AND BEFORE >>BLACKSTONE'S LEGAL COMMENTARIES,
  • 18:26 WHICH MANY OF YOUR VIEWERS HAVE >>PROBABLY HEARD OF,
  • 18:28 SIR HENRY FINCH WAS THE MOST, THERE WAS A FINCH COMMENTARY
  • 18:31 AND HE WAS THE GREATEST LEGAL SCHOLAR IN ENGLAND UP UNTIL BLACKSTONE CAME ALONG
  • 18:37 AND HE WROTE A WHOLE BOOK >>DETAILING THAT THE JEWS WOULD BE >>RETURNED TO THE LAND
  • 18:44 AND HOW IT WOULD HAPPEN AND ALL >>THIS KIND OF STUFF.
  • 18:46 KING JAMES PUT HIM IN PRISON AND >>PUT HIM AND HIS PUBLISHER IN PRISON FOR DOING THAT
  • 18:54 BECAUSE HE HAD THE AUDACITY TO >>SAY THAT ALL THE KINGS OF THE EARTH
  • 18:58 WOULD ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO THE KING IN JERUSALEM, JESUS.
  • 19:02 BOY, HE'S NOT THE FIRST TO SAY THAT.
  • 19:04 ISAIAH SAID THAT.
  • 19:05 THAT'S RIGHT AND KING JAMES >>DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'D >>HAVE TO ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO,
  • 19:09 AND HE PUT HIM IN PRISON AND HE >>DIED SHORTLY AFTER THAT.
  • 19:12 DIDN'T KING JAMES READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE?
  • 19:14 WELL, 1621, I GUESS IT WAS AROUND BACK THEM.
  • 19:18 IF HE DID, HE READ IT WITH A JAUNDICED EYE OR VERY DARK SET OF GLASSES.
  • 19:24 A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
  • 19:25 YOU KNOW, MY BIBLE, WHICH IS AN >>OLD SCOFIELD, IN THE NOTES TO THE NATION OF GOG AND MAGOG,
  • 19:30 EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 HE USES, HE >>SAYS, THIS WILL BE AN INVASION >>AGAINST DISPERSED ISRAEL
  • 19:38 AND THEN ELUDES TO THE FACT THEY >>WILL BE BACK IN THE LAND WHEN THE PROPHECY HAPPENS.
  • 19:43 WELL, EXACTLY AND THAT'S WHAT WE >>FIND WHEN THE PEOPLE
  • 19:46 FOR THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN THE >>HISTORY OF THE CHURCH,
  • 19:49 WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS IN THE EARLY CHURCH,
  • 19:50 GOT AHOLD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND STARTED READING THEM, THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.
  • 19:55 ISN'T THAT AMAZING.
  • 19:56 AND YOU COME TO THIS COUNTY, IN THE UNITED STATES
  • 19:59 AND WE WERE FOUNDED BY A LOT OF >>THESE PURITANS
  • 20:02 AND AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE THE HISTORY OF MEDIEVAL >>ANTI-SEMITISM THAT EUROPE HAS.
  • 20:10 THIS IS PROBABLY WHY ONE THIRD >>OF WORLD JEWRY LIVES IN UNITED STATES.
  • 20:14 ONE THIRD LIVES IN ISRAEL, ONE THIRD LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES,
  • 20:17 ACTUALLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE >>40%, I BELIEVE, LIVE IN UNITED STATES AND 40% LIVE IN ISRAEL.
  • 20:22 WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN VERY PHILIO-SEMITIC DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS.
  • 20:29 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS.
  • 20:30 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS AND THAT >>GOES BACK TO OUR PURITAN ROOTS.
  • 20:32 IN FACT, INCREASE MATHER WROTE HIS FIRST BOOK OUT OF 125 BOOKS,
  • 20:36 HIS SON COTTON MATHER WROTE 425, >>BUT NEVER THE LESS,
  • 20:39 WAS ON THE RESTORATION OF THE JEWS TO ISRAEL
  • 20:42 AND WAS HIS FAVORITE BOOK, WENT >>THROUGH SIX REVISIONS
  • 20:44 AND THIS WAS DISSEMINATED THROUGHOUT THE COLONIES AND THIS >>SET THE TONE FOR AMERICA.
  • 20:50 IN FACT, GEORGE WASHINGTON HAD A POLICY THAT HE WANTED THE JEWS >>TO RETURN TO THE LAND.
  • 20:55 JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, WHO WAS CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT,
  • 20:56 HAD AN EXTENSIVE FOREIGN POLICY >>STATING THAT HE WANTED TO SEE THE JEWS RETURN TO ISRAEL.
  • 21:01 SO, THIS IDEA THAT CHRISTIAN ZIONISM SOMEHOW STARTED WITH DARBY IN 1830,
  • 21:07 NOW DARBY CERTAINLY BELIEVED IN >>THIS, IS JUST BOGUS.
  • 21:10 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 250 YEARS.
  • 21:11 IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE RISE OF >>PEOPLE STUDYING THE BIBLE.
  • 21:16 SO, WHAT IS AMAZING NOW IS WE'RE >>SEEING A DECLINE
  • 21:20 AMONG EVANGELICALS IN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.
  • 21:25 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DECLINE YET AT THE POPULAR LEVEL, ZOLA,
  • 21:28 BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE WITHIN EVANGELICALISM
  • 21:31 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO A LITERAL READING OF THE BIBLE,
  • 21:35 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL
  • 21:39 IS IN THE PROCESS OF FULFILLING PROPHECY AND SETTING THE STAGE >>FOR THE TRIBULATION
  • 21:44 AND OPPOSED TO THAT KIND OF READING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE,
  • 21:48 THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER VOICE >>IT SEEMS SINCE 9-11.
  • 21:51 THERE SEEMS TO BE A COROLLARY BETWEEN 9-11 AND THEIR VIEWS RESONATING WITH PEOPLE.
  • 21:58 YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
  • 21:59 AND WE'VE HAD 2 OTHER BIG INFLUENCES, AS YOU'RE TALKING
  • 22:02 I'M THINKING THE DOWNFALL AND >>THE DECLINE OF THE SEMINARIES,
  • 22:06 MOODY AND DALLAS AND TALBOT >>SINCE MAYBE 1985 OR SO TURNING TO PROGRESSIVE DISPENATIONALISM
  • 22:13 AND SCREWY DOCTRINES OF PROPHECY, CUTTING ISRAEL OUT >>AND THE INFLUX OF THE MUSLIMS.
  • 22:19 THAT'S RIGHT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER IN EUROPE,
  • 22:24 YOU'RE SEEING THIS IMMIGRATION >>ACROSS EUROPE
  • 22:28 AND THEY ARE FORMING 9, 10, 11% OF MANY COUNTRIES VOTING BLOCK
  • 22:36 AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE COALITIONS OVER THERE SO THEY DON'T WANT TO >>OFFEND PEOPLE
  • 22:40 AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT SCHOLARS >>BACK IN THE 1970S STARTED USING >>AFTER THE 6 DAY WAR,
  • 22:47 A TERM CALLED "THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM".
  • 22:49 IN FACT THERE ARE 7 OR 8 NEW BOOKS SINCE 9-11
  • 22:52 THAT HAVE THAT IN THE TITLE, >>MAINLY WRITTEN BY JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 22:56 WHAT IS THE NEW-ANTI-SEMITISM?
  • 22:57 WELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM >>IS THAT PEOPLE HATE ISRAEL,
  • 23:02 THE CORPORATE STATE IN THE SAME >>WAY THEY HATED THE INDIVIDUAL JEWS IN THE 1930S.
  • 23:08 SO, THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM IS, YOU GET UP AND YOU SAY THINGS AGAINST ISRAEL AND YOU SAY,
  • 23:16 WELL, I'M NOT ANTI-SEMITIC BECAUSE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL JEWS--
  • 23:19 JUST THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
  • 23:21 IT'S THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
  • 23:22 THAT REMINDS OF BILLY GRAHAM,
  • 23:23 HE SAID HE COULDN'T TELL THE NEW MORALITY FROM THE OLD IMMORALITY.
  • 23:28 I CAN'T TELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM FROM THE OLD STUFF.
  • 23:32 EXACTLY, THEY FEEL A FREEDOM ON THESE--
  • 23:35 YOU HAVE THE RISE OF THE CABLE >>SHOWS WHERE THEY SIT AD INFINITUM
  • 23:38 AND TALK ABOUT ALL THESE ISSUES AND ISRAEL IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE >>MAIN TOPICS,
  • 23:42 WHEN SOME EVENT HAPPENS THEN THEY HAVE ALL THESE, SPECIALLY ARABS
  • 23:45 THAT GET ON THERE AND TRASH ISRAEL AND TALK ABOUT THEM IN A BAD WAY
  • 23:49 AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND IRAN AND >>THE ARAB WORLD
  • 23:54 AND I'VE GOTTEN HUNDREDS OF >>CARTOONS, FOR EXAMPLE, OFF THE >>INTERNET FROM THE ARAB WORLD.
  • 24:00 THERE'S A SITE WHERE YOU CAN GET >>THEM AND THEY'RE USING,
  • 24:02 YOU'VE BEEN TO YAD VASHEM, OR THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON D. C.
  • 24:07 AND THERE'S A CERTAIN TYPE OF ART, CARTOONING
  • 24:09 THAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE 30S >>IN GERMANY THAT HAS A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL.
  • 24:14 IT'S COMING BACK. >>IT'S COMING BACK.
  • 24:16 THEY'RE USING THE SAME EXACT >>LOOK AND FEEL IN THE ARAB WORLD
  • 24:21 TO DEMONIZE THE JEWS IN A SIMILAR WAY.
  • 24:24 WHEN I WALKED IN THAT MUSEUM IN >>WASHINGTON, YOU GO ACROSS A >>LITTLE BRIDGE AT THE BEGINNING
  • 24:30 AND YOU LOOK DOWN A LONG HALLWAY >>AND ON THE WALL
  • 24:33 IS ISAIAH WHATEVER IT IS, YE ARE MY WITNESSES.
  • 24:38 IT REALLY GOES THROUGH YOU.
  • 24:40 I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO LIVE >>TO TELL ABOUT THIS.
  • 24:42 WELL, EXACTLY AND YOU'VE GOT >>HOLOCAUST DENIER ABBAS, THE HEAD OF THE PALESTINIAN ASSOCIATION.
  • 24:51 THE NEW HOPE.
  • 24:52 THEY JUST PUBLISHED A BRAND NEW >>COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IN ARABIC
  • 24:59 IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND ALL THESE >>KINDS OF THINGS
  • 25:00 AND YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS OCCURRING AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO EUROPE NOW
  • 25:07 AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO AMERICA.
  • 25:08 I'LL BET OUR VIEWERS WOULD PROBABLY SURPRISED TO LEARN
  • 25:11 THERE'S BEEN 7 OR 8 RIOTS SINCE 9-11 IN NORTH AMERICA ON COLLEGE >>CAMPUSES OVER ISRAEL.
  • 25:17 OH SURE, TOMMY IS THIS ALL TAKING US INTO THE TRIBULATION NOW.
  • 25:21 I THINK IT IS.
  • 25:22 YOU'VE GOT THE PROPHECY IN ZECHARIAH
  • 25:25 AND I THINK THIS IS A PROPHECY >>THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR IN THE TRIBULATION AND IT SAYS
  • 25:44 CHUCK MISSLER, A FRIEND OF OURS SAYS, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO >>BE A GLOBAL HERNIA
  • 25:48 TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT.
  • 25:52 THAT SOUNDS LIKE CHUCK MISSLER.
  • 25:54 EXACTLY, THAT OCCURS.
  • 25:55 THE POINT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING >>THIS ALREADY BEING PREPARED,
  • 25:59 THE STAGE IS BEING SET AND I >>THINK WHEN THE RAPTURE OCCURS,
  • 26:03 AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY IS GOING TO JOIN EUROPE AND THE REST OF >>THESE PEOPLE
  • 26:09 BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE LOST OUR >>EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL INFLUENCE.
  • 26:13 THAT'LL BE IT.
  • 26:14 TOMMY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU >>BACK NEXT WEEK.
  • 26:15 I'M SORRY THE TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.
  • 26:17 THANKS FOR SHARING AND WE'LL PICK IT UP AGAIN NEXT WEEK ON THIS POINT.
  • 26:23 HE'S A WONDERFUL SCHOLAR, AUTHOR >>OF MANY BOOKS, A SEMINARY DOCTORATE AND SO ON.
  • 26:29 I DON'T HAVE HIS BIOGRAPHY IN >>FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK YOU CAN >>HEAR HIS WISDOM.
  • 26:34 THANKS FOR SHARING, I APPRECIATE IT.
  • 26:37 AND FOLKS OUT THERE, WHATEVER THEY SAY,
  • 26:40 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM >>PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 1
  2. Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 2
  3. Guest: Benny Elon (Knesset member)
  4. The March
  5. Counter Terrorism
  6. Biblical Heartland
  7. The Hill of Evil Council with Tom McCall
  8. Trials and Tribulations with Tom McCall
  9. Hated of All Nations with Tommy Ice
  10. Truth be Told with Tommy Ice
  11. Israel: Who Owns the Land?
  12. Israel and Prophecy with Tommy Ice

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