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Episode: “Counselors / Abigail”
A study of Abigail demonstrates that women are designed to be more than lovers and mothers to bear and care for children. Women have significant intuitive capabilities that contribute beyond the bedroom and nursery toward mankind’s success. Sandra and Jeff’s wife, Patricia, examine ways to help others.
Series: “She Shall Be Called Woman”
In this teaching series, Dr. Jeffrey Seif opens up the Hebrew Scriptures and focuses on God’s wonderful creation of Man’s human complement: Woman. Sandra Levitt contributes interviews with women who are passionate in their areas of expertise. Eight 30-minute TV Programs on 2 DVDs.

Caption transcript for She Shall Be Called Woman: “Counselors / Abigail” (3/8)

  • 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
  • 00:09 SHE SHALL BE CALLED WOMAN.
  • 00:13 I CAME FORTH FROM A MAN...
  • 00:15 BUT I FOUND FAVOR WITH HIM...
  • 00:16 AND TRUE SUCCESS IS NOT MEASURED IN WEALTH AND POWER BUT IN THE ESTATE IN ONE'S HEART...
  • 00:22 I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER AND MORE FULFILLED...
  • 00:28 I RAISED HIM UP STRICTLY IN THE FAITH AND THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS...
  • 00:30 AND NOW I WANT TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK...
  • 00:32 I BELIEVE ELOHIM MEANT IT TO BE THIS WAY...
  • 00:34 SHE'S STILL A CORNERSTONE OF WISDOM TO THE FAMILY...
  • 00:37 BUT YOU ARE ALWAYS IN MY HEART...
  • 00:57 MY HUSBAND'S A SCOUNDREL.
  • 01:00 HIS NAME IS NABAL AND FOLLY WAS WITH HIM.
  • 01:03 BUT IT WAS FOR HIS LIFE AND THE LIVES OF OUR FAMILY THAT I WENT FORTH TO INTERVENE.
  • 01:10 YAHWEH'S SERVANT DAVID CAME IN PEACE AND KINDNESS BUT NABAL REPAID HIM WITH EVIL.
  • 01:17 IF ELOHIM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WITH ME DAVID WOULD HAVE AVENGED JUSTICE WITH BLOODSHED.
  • 01:24 BUT I SENT GIFTS TO DAVID AND HIS MEN, FOOD AND SUPPLIES
  • 01:29 AND THEN I PLEADED WITH HIM FOR MERCY AND FORGIVENESS.
  • 01:33 YAHWEH'S WORDS WERE ON MY LIPS AND THEY COOLED THE HOT COALS OF ANGER.
  • 01:37 DAVID RECEIVED MY COUNSEL WITH GLADNESS AND SENT ME HOME IN PEACE.
  • 01:48 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
  • 01:50 JEFFREY SEIF HERE
  • 01:51 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
  • 01:52 SHALOM, WELCOME BACK.
  • 01:53 SHE SHALL BE CALLED WOMAN.
  • 01:55 TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 01:56 ABIGAIL THE COUNSELOR
  • 01:58 AND THE ATTRIBUTES OF A COUNSELOR IN WOMEN.
  • 02:00 I LOVED THIS STORY.
  • 02:01 SHE WAS A SMART LADY.
  • 02:03 SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
  • 02:04 BUT SHE WAS MARRIED TO A DUMB GUY. >>(Sandra Laughing)
  • 02:07 THAT'S THE STORY THERE IN THE BIBLE.
  • 02:09 IN FACT, HE TICKED OFF DAVID AND BAD THINGS WERE ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
  • 02:16 COMES NO SECRET THE MALES OF THE SPECIES CAN GET RATHER FEISTY AND INTENSE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN.
  • 02:21 AND IT TAKES A WOMAN
  • 02:24 TO SETTLE THEM DOWN.
  • 02:25 I'LL TELL YOU, IT POLISHES OFF THE SHARP EDGES.
  • 02:27 ABIGAIL DID THAT.
  • 02:29 DAVID WAS ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING DASTARDLY AND HE EVEN SAID,
  • 02:32 "THANK GOD FOR GOD, THANK GOD FOR ABIGAIL".
  • 02:34 THANK GOD FOR WOMEN. >>THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 02:36 THE WAY WOMEN FUNCTION IN THAT CAPACITY.
  • 02:38 AND THE DRAMA; I LIKE THE DRAMA.
  • 02:39 I PROBABLY SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE WEEK
  • 02:41 BUT I REALLY DO LIKE THESE DRAMAS.
  • 02:43 THEY WERE SO WONDERFUL,
  • 02:44 THEY'RE IN ISRAEL, THEY'RE IN THE LAND.
  • 02:46 I LOVE IT.
  • 02:47 AND A PICTURE TELLS A THOUSAND WORDS.
  • 02:49 IT DOES.
  • 02:50 I CAN SEE THE LAND,
  • 02:51 I CAN SEE HOW YOU'RE TEACHING IN THERE
  • 02:53 AND IT REALLY MAKES THE SCRIPTURE COME ALIVE.
  • 02:55 SO WE'LL GO TO JEFF'S TEACHING IN ISRAEL,
  • 02:58 "SHE SHALL BE CALLED WOMAN".
  • 03:01 WHAT CAUSES WARS?
  • 03:03 IT'S AN AGE OLD QUESTION IN THE NEW TESTAMENT "Yacov" or "JAMES" RAISED IT.
  • 03:09 IT'S NOT THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
  • 03:10 HE SPEAKS ABOUT SELFISH AMBITIONS THAT ARE LET LOOSE AND PEOPLE FIGHT AND THEY WRANGLE.
  • 03:15 THEY'RE FIGHTING HERE. WHO DO THEY BLAME IT ON?
  • 03:18 IS IT THE DONKEY, IS IT A BUSINESS DEAL THAT WENT WRONG?
  • 03:21 WHERE DO YOU POINT THE FINGER?
  • 03:24 WELL, IN JAMES IN THE END OF THE 3RD CHAPTER HERE HE SPEAKS OF A WISDOM THAT COMES DOWN,
  • 03:31 THAT'S GENTLE AND PEACEFUL.
  • 03:33 BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S TENSION AND STRESS.
  • 03:36 A WOMAN'S VOICE CAN SOMETIMES BE THAT VOICE OF MODERATION.
  • 03:41 THE MALES OF THE SPECIES, WE CAN BE SO VERY ROBUST AND SO VERY INTENSE.
  • 03:46 AND SOMETIMES AS NOTED IT'S A WOMAN WHO HAS A WAY OF BRINGING INSIGHTS TO BEAR
  • 03:52 IN HELPING US GET THROUGH WHEN WE GET TANGLED UP TOGETHER.
  • 03:56 THERE'S A FAMOUS STORY IN THE BIBLE ABOUT A MAN WHO ALMOST MADE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE.
  • 04:04 DAVID WAS OFFENDED OF COURSE AND HE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO BE.
  • 04:07 NABAL WAS A FOOL AND TREATED HIM ROUGHLY.
  • 04:11 DAVID HAS JUST FINISHED BEING PARTICULARLY GRACIOUS TO SAUL.
  • 04:16 HE IN THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER HAD GONE INTO A CAVE
  • 04:19 AND THERE SAUL WAS RELIEVING HIMSELF.
  • 04:23 THE TEXT IS VERY APPROPRIATE.
  • 04:26 NOT GOING INTO ALL THE DETAILS BUT DAVID HAD HIM BUT HE WOULDN'T TAKE HIM.
  • 04:30 BUT IN OUR STORY TODAY DAVID IS ESCALATING UP, HE'S ROBUST, HE'S ANGRY, HE'S DISCONCERTED.
  • 04:37 THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS BEEN DISRESPECTED AND HE WANTS BLOOD.
  • 04:44 THE BOOK 1ST "Shmuel", 1ST SAMUEL, TELLS THE STORY,
  • 04:47 DESCRIBES HOW DAVID'S MEN WERE INSULTED BY NABAL.
  • 04:51 NABAL IS INTRODUCED INTO THE NARRATIVE AS IS HIS WIFE ABIGAIL.
  • 04:56 AND IT'S DAVID'S ENCOUNTER WITH HER THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR HIM.
  • 05:02 IN CHAPTER 25, VERSE 3, THE CHARACTERS ARE INTRODUCED, THE PRINCIPAL CHARACTERS.
  • 05:08 THE TEXT SAYS
  • 05:09 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 05:12 WHICH REALLY IN EFFECT MEANS "FOOL".
  • 05:14 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 05:17 ABIGAIL WAS INTRODUCED.
  • 05:18 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 05:24 WITH GOOD SMARTS AND NOT ONLY THAT..
  • 05:26 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 05:30 AND BY WAY OF CONTRAST NABAL IS INTRODUCED AS
  • 05:34 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 05:38 AND THIS MAN GOT SIDEWAYS WITH DAVID.
  • 05:42 AND DAVID HAD GARNERED A FORCE TOGETHER OF 400 PLUS AND HE WAS BENT ON HIS DEMISE.
  • 05:49 THANK GOD FOR HIS WIFE.
  • 05:51 HE WOULD HAVE MADE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE
  • 05:54 AND WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER TODAY HOW A WOMAN'S VOICE
  • 05:56 CAN HELP THE MALES OF THE SPECIES SETTLE DOWN AND THINK RIGHT.
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  • 06:45 THE MALES OF THE SPECIES INNATELY HAVE A TENDENCY
  • 06:48 TO ESCALATE UP MORE SO THAN THE FEMALES OF THE SPECIES.
  • 06:52 DOESN'T TAKE MUCH SOMETIMES AT THE SLIGHTEST PROVOCATION THE MALES CAN BEGIN TO RAGE.
  • 06:58 THE PRESSURE BUILDS UP AND WHY?
  • 07:00 BECAUSE HE FEELS DISRESPECTED, DISHONORED AND THAT'S ALL THAT IT TAKES MANY TIMES.
  • 07:07 PAUL IS SENSITIVE TO THAT.
  • 07:09 HE REALIZES THAT WOMEN WANT TO BE LOVED SO HE SAYS,
  • 07:12 "HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIVES".
  • 07:14 HE DOESN'T TELL THE WIVES
  • 07:16 TO LOVE THEIR HUSBANDS,
  • 07:17 HE TELLS THE WIVES, "LEARN TO RESPECT YOUR HUSBAND, TO HONOR YOUR HUSBAND".
  • 07:21 FOR AS MUCH AS A WOMAN CAN FEEL DISCONCERTED IF SHE'S NOT LOVED,
  • 07:25 A MAN CAN BECOME DISORIENTED, THE WHEELS START TURNING, IF HE FEELS DISRESPECTED.
  • 07:32 AND IF THAT'S TURNING WITHIN HIM, THAT CAN HAVE IMPLICATIONS AT THE BEHAVIORAL LEVEL.
  • 07:37 I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN MORE THAN ONCE NOT JUST IN OTHERS BUT IN MYSELF.
  • 07:42 I GET AN EMAIL THIS MORNING, I OPEN IT UP AND I'M "OFF TO THE RACES", I'M NOT A HAPPY CAMPER.
  • 07:47 I BEGIN THE DAY WITH A FILM CREW COMING OUT TO A SHOOT
  • 07:51 AND OUR PRODUCER, KEN BERG, SAYS "JEFF, THIS ISN'T GOING TO RUIN YOUR DAY IS IT?"
  • 07:54 WELL NO IT ISN'T, I'LL JUST LAY IT ASIDE AND MOVE ON.
  • 07:57 I'M ONLY MENTIONING THAT TO SAY THAT I, YOU, WE HAVE A PROPENSITY TO ESCALATE UP.
  • 08:03 THAT'S THE BAD NEWS.
  • 08:04 THE GOOD NEWS HOPEFULLY IS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN US,
  • 08:07 ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 08:09 HAVE WITHIN US THE ABILITY TO GET THAT UNDER CONTROL.
  • 08:12 IT'S GOOD TO LEARN TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.
  • 08:14 THE SPIRIT HELPS US AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE HELPS?
  • 08:17 A WOMAN HELPS US.
  • 08:19 I'VE SEEN THIS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION BY THE WAY AS A POLICE OFFICER RESPONDING TO A CALL.
  • 08:25 THERE'S ONE MAN, THERE CAN BE A ROOM FULL OF MEN, BIG MEN, BUFF MEN, INTENSE MEN.
  • 08:30 IT'S ESCALATING UP, I'M ON THE RADIO CALLING FOR BACK UP.
  • 08:34 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT TO GO BAD AND THEN MAMA SPEAKS UP.
  • 08:39 THESE MEN CAN BE 6 FOOT 6.
  • 08:41 MOTHER CAN BE 5 FOOT 2.
  • 08:43 "NOW, YOU STOP...."I'VE SEEN A WOMAN GET INTO LIKE A TRAFFIC COP AND SORT IT ALL OUT.
  • 08:48 I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN WITH A WIFE, WITH A GIRLFRIEND, WITH A MOTHER.
  • 08:52 EVEN THE HARDEST OF THE HARD WILL RESPOND TO THEIR MOTHER.
  • 08:56 YOU CAN GO INTO A PENITENTIARY, THESE GUYS HAVE RAPED, PILLAGED AND PLUNDERED,
  • 09:01 BUT IF YOU INSULT THEIR MOTHER....THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO WHATEVER.
  • 09:06 I MEAN IT'S JUST SOMETHING THE WAY A MAN CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT
  • 09:10 A WOMAN HAS A CALMING EFFECT ON HIM AND FEEL A CERTAIN KIND OF LOYALTY TO A WOMAN.
  • 09:18 KING DAVID EXEMPLIFIES THIS MARVELOUSLY IN THE STORY AT HAND.
  • 09:23 YOU RECALL THAT HE WAS INSULTED BY A FOOLISH MAN, A CHURLISH MAN, FELLOW NAMED NABAL.
  • 09:29 ABIGAIL, HIS WIFE, HOWEVER, INTERCEDES.
  • 09:33 DAVID HAS MARSHALED A FORCE AND HE'S BENT ON VENTING HIS FURY ON THIS FELLOW.
  • 09:39 AND WERE IT NOT FOR THE FACT THAT HE ENCOUNTERED ABIGAIL IN THE PROCESS
  • 09:43 HE WOULD HAVE DONE JUST THAT.
  • 09:46 SHE WILL COME AND HUMBLE HERSELF, "OH MY LORD".
  • 09:49 SHE KNOWS HOW TO TALK TO A MAN.
  • 09:51 OH, AND BY THE WAY, WHEN A MAN IS UPSET IT'S NOT JUST A WOMAN THAT'D HAVE A CALMING EFFECT,
  • 09:55 BUT A WOMAN THAT KNOWS HOW TO TALK TO A MAN.
  • 09:58 SHE TREATS HIM RESPECTFULLY.
  • 10:00 "OH MY LORD", "I'M YOUR HAND MAIDEN" "WILL YOU NOT BUT SEE THIS?"
  • 10:04 SHE DOESN'T PUSH HIM, SHE SUGGESTS, SHE'S TACTFUL, DIPLOMATIC.
  • 10:09 SHE KNOWS HOW TO CALM DOWN.
  • 10:12 IT'S A GREAT STORY, DAVID DOESN'T FORGET IT.
  • 10:14 LATER ON WHEN HER HUSBAND DIES, WHEN HE HEARS OF IT,
  • 10:18 DAVID'S GOING TO SEND FOR HER AND SAY "LISTEN, HOW ABOUT A MOVIE ON FRIDAY?"
  • 10:24 HE'S GOING TO WANT TO STRIKE UP A CHORD.
  • 10:27 I WANT TO LOOK AT THE 25TH CHAPTER, VERSE 32 AND SEE WHAT DAVID SAYS TO HER
  • 10:32 AND BY EXTENSION WE DO WELL IF THIS CAN BE OUR ATTITUDE.
  • 10:35 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 10:39 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 10:45 (Speaking Hebrew).
  • 10:53 THANK GOD FOR GOD, THANK GOD FOR YOU.
  • 10:56 HE'S GOING TO GO ON TO SAY TO HER.
  • 10:58 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 11:04 "OH ABIGAIL, THANK YOU."
  • 11:05 "BLESSED BE THE WAY THAT YOU THINK."
  • 11:08 HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW IN VERSE 33,
  • 11:10 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 11:12 AND HE'S GOING TO SAY
  • 11:16 DAVID SEES VALUE, WORTH.
  • 11:18 HE HONORS HER FOR WHAT SHE WAS AND WHAT SHE CONTRIBUTED TO HIM
  • 11:24 AND SHE SAVED HIM FROM BRINGING HARM UPON HIMSELF.
  • 11:29 HE CLOSES AND THE WAY HE CLOSES IS THE WAY I WANT TO CLOSE ON THIS.
  • 11:33 IN VERSE 35 HE'S GOING TO SAY UNTO HER
  • 11:38 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 11:41 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 11:43 HE'S GOING TO THEN SAY
  • 11:46 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 11:52 "Kol" IS "VOICE".
  • 11:54 YOU KNOW THE VOICE OF PROPHECY,
  • 11:55 "Bat Kol" IS CONSIDERED FEMININE
  • 11:58 IN A HEBREW UNDERSTANDING.
  • 12:00 HE'S THEN GOING TO SAY
  • 12:01 (Speaking Hebrew)
  • 12:05 "Panim" IS "FACE".
  • 12:08 LITERALLY "I HAVE SEEN YOUR FACE, I HAVE HARKENED TO YOUR FACE."
  • 12:11 THAT IS "I HAVE ACCEPTED THY PERSON."
  • 12:15 IT'S MERITUS--DAVID LOOKS AT ABIGAIL AND HE SEES SOMETHING SPECIAL.
  • 12:20 AND WHAT DOES HE SEE TO BRING CLOSE?
  • 12:22 HE SAYS TO HER "BLESSED BE YOUR VOICE" AND HE SAYS "AND I HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR PERSON".
  • 12:29 MAY IT BE THAT WE MALES THE MORE SO DEVELOP AN APPRECIATE FOR HOW WOMEN HELP US,
  • 12:36 HOW THEY SAVE US, HOW THEY HELP US BRING THINGS UNDER CONTROL
  • 12:40 AND MAY WE HONOR THEM FOR SO DOING.
  • 12:46 ABIGAIL'S NAME MEANS "MY FATHER IS REJOICING".
  • 12:49 DON'T YOU KNOW JEFF THAT THE HEAVENLY FATHER..
  • 12:52 AND IF ABIGAIL...
  • 12:53 IF WE KNEW REALLY WHO HER FATHER WAS...
  • 12:55 DON'T YOU KNOW THAT HE IS REJOICING WITH THE WAY SHE TREATED DAVID,
  • 12:58 THE WAY SHE HANDLED THE SITUATION I THINK IS TERRIFIC.
  • 13:01 AND YOUR TEACHING REALLY BROUGHT THAT OUT.
  • 13:03 IF I WAS HER DAD I'D BE PROUD OF HER. >>ABSOLUTELY
  • 13:05 BUT IF I WAS HER DAD I'D FEEL
  • 13:06 RESPONSIBLE FOR ARRANGING THAT
  • 13:08 NASTY MARRIAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 13:09 WHY DO WOMEN DO THAT?
  • 13:11 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
  • 13:12 BUT YOU KNOW SHE STOOD BY NABAL AND REALLY WAS A BLESSING IN THE END TO HIM.
  • 13:19 IT'S A GREAT POINT.
  • 13:20 IT'S NOT LIKE SHE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF A BAD MARRIAGE. >>RIGHT.RIGHT.
  • 13:22 SHE KNEW THE GUY WAS LESS THAN WHAT YOU'D HOPE FOR
  • 13:25 BUT SHE STUCK IT OUT.
  • 13:27 BUT GOD HAD SOMETHING FOR HER GOOD DIDN'T HE? >>ABSOLUTELY
  • 13:29 AND YOU KNOW THE SERVANTS CAME TO HER.
  • 13:30 THEY WERE CONCERNED.
  • 13:32 SHE MUST HAVE REALLY BEEN A WONDERFUL WOMAN THAT THE SERVANTS WOULD COME TO HER
  • 13:35 AND FELT FREE ENOUGH TO SAY TO HER, "LOOK THERE'S GOING TO BE A FIGHT.WE NEED SOME HELP."
  • 13:40 PEOPLE KNEW WHO HAD THE SENSE IN THAT FAMILY. >>RIGHT (laughing)
  • 13:44 DIDN'T THEY? >>OBVIOUSLY THEY KNEW WHO HAD THE SENSE.
  • 13:47 THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSELOR.
  • 13:49 WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT COUNSELS US
  • 13:51 AND THAT'S A COMFORT TOO. >>YES
  • 13:53 TRULY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT'S REPRESENTED IN THE FEMININE GENDER
  • 13:57 IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE INTERESTINGLY.
  • 13:59 SEE I REALLY DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT.
  • 14:01 THE "HaRuach Hakodesh" IS FEMININE. >>YES
  • 14:03 I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THAT
  • 14:05 BUT I GUESS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME PEOPLE THINK THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A FEMALE
  • 14:09 AND WE DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT WAY,
  • 14:11 WE BELIEVE IT'S A MALE.
  • 14:12 WELL WISDOM IS PERSONIFIED AS A FEMALE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. >>THAT'S TRUE.
  • 14:15 "Chohom", "WIDSOM" LITERATURE,
  • 14:16 "WISDOM, SHE CRYIES ALOUD IN THE STREET.",
  • 14:19 TO USE THE LANGUAGE OF PROVERBS.
  • 14:20 RIGHT, SO WHY ARE WE CALLING THE HOLY SPIRIT A MALE THEN?
  • 14:22 JI DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY DO
  • 14:24 BUT I KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE DOES. >>THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 14:26 AND WHAT THE BIBLE DOES IS DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT
  • 14:28 WOMEN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND MEN NEED TO HEAR IT.
  • 14:31 ABSOLUTELY
  • 14:31 THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT ABIGAIL
  • 14:33 IS SHE REALLY KNEW HOW TO GET TO DAVID.
  • 14:34 SHE WENT THROUGH TO HIS STOMACH.
  • 14:36 THE OLD PROVERB,
  • 14:38 "THE WAY TO A MAN'S HEART IS THROUGH HIS STOMACH."
  • 14:40 IS THAT WHY MEN GAIN WEIGHT AFTER THEY GET MARRIED? >>IT COULD BE.
  • 14:43 WELL THEY'RE HAPPY AND THEIR WIVES ARE TAKING REALLY GOOD CARE OF THEM.
  • 14:46 LET ME HOLD MY STOMACH IN AS WE SPEAK.
  • 14:47 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
  • 14:49 I LOVE BEING IN ISRAEL.
  • 14:50 I LOVE TALKING TO PEOPLE IN ISRAEL.
  • 14:52 HERE'S MY FRIEND, BECKY GODWIN IN ISRAEL.
  • 14:56 BECKY I KNOW THIS
  • 14:57 IS NOT YOUR FIRST TRIP TO ISRAEL.
  • 14:58 WHAT KEEPS BRINGING YOU BACK HERE?
  • 15:00 (Sigh)...GOD
  • 15:03 GOD
  • 15:05 GOD, HE JUST KEEPS DRAWING ME BACK.
  • 15:06 THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T EXPLAIN.
  • 15:09 BUT THERE'S SUCH A TUG,
  • 15:10 THERE'S SUCH A WARMTH HERE,
  • 15:11 THERE'S SUCH FULFILLING THAT I JUST CAN'T STAY AWAY.
  • 15:17 I CANNOT STAY AWAY. >>I KNOW, I KNOW
  • 15:19 SO WHEN IS YOUR FAVORITE TIME TO COME?
  • 15:22 I HAVE BEEN AT EVERY TIME OF THE YEAR.
  • 15:24 EVERY TIME OF THE YEAR HAS SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL ABOUT IT.
  • 15:28 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME IN SPRING
  • 15:29 AND EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFUL.
  • 15:31 I CAN'T SAY,
  • 15:32 I'D COME ANY TIME THAT THE LORD ALLOWED ME TO COME.
  • 15:34 AND I'M GIVING YOU 24 HOURS.. >>I'LL BE HERE.
  • 15:36 I'LL BE HERE
  • 15:41 SOMETIMES THE JOURNEY TO YERUSHALAYIM CAN BE A LONG ONE.
  • 15:47 ABRAHAM JOURNEYED FOR 62 YEARS FROM UR
  • 15:51 AND THEN OFFERED HIS SON ISAAC AS A SACRIFICE TO GOD ATOP OF MOUNT MORIAH.
  • 15:57 THE ARK OF THE COVENANT JOURNEYED FOR 500 HUNDRED YEARS
  • 16:01 UNTIL IT FOUND ITS FINAL RESTING PLACE IN KING SOLOMON'S TEMPLE ATOP THE VERY SAME MOUNT.
  • 16:07 OUR JOURNEY TO YERUSHALAYIM IS ONLY COMPLETE
  • 16:10 WHEN WE CAN FINALLY CAST OUR EYES UPON GOD'S HOLY MOUNTAIN.
  • 16:14 THIS WILL BE A JOURNEY WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
  • 16:19 WHEN YOUR FEET TOUCH THIS HOLY GROUND,
  • 16:22 YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
  • 16:31 FOR YOUR FREE BROCHURE ON OUR NEXT TOUR TO ISRAEL CALL...
  • 16:41 WE HAVE A SPECIAL BLESSING. PATTY SEIF IS HERE TODAY.
  • 16:44 THIS IS IS JEFF'S WIFE.
  • 16:45 JEFF I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE HER HERE.
  • 16:47 WELL, ME TOO.
  • 16:48 I'VE HAD HER FOR 21 YEARS BESIDE ME
  • 16:50 AND NOW HERE ON THE SET.
  • 16:51 WE WERE LOOKING FOR A TESTIMONIAL
  • 16:54 TO A WOMAN AND A COUNSELOR.
  • 16:56 AND HEY WHAT'S THE GOOD OF HAVING FRIENDS IF YOU CAN'T USE THEM?
  • 16:58 ABSOLUTELY.
  • 16:59 MY WIFE IS A PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR
  • 17:01 WORKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHICH IS GREAT.
  • 17:03 BUT THE INTERESTING PART IS EVERYWHERE WE GO PEOPLE SAY,
  • 17:06 "WHAT IS JEFF'S WIFE LIKE? IS SHE PRETTY? IS SHE NICE? IS SHE..."
  • 17:09 THEY ALL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR WIFE.
  • 17:11 AND I AM THRILLED TO HAVE HER ON THE PROGRAM. >>HERE SHE IS.
  • 17:13 ITS JUST TERRIFIC.
  • 17:14 SO TELL US ABOUT COUNSELING,
  • 17:16 HOW YOU GOT INTO COUNSELING,
  • 17:17 DO YOU THINK COUNSELING'S IMPORTANT.
  • 17:19 JUST SAY WHAT'S ON YOUR HEART.
  • 17:21 I LOVE COUNSELING.
  • 17:24 I BELIEVE IN COUNSELING.
  • 17:25 I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE.
  • 17:28 I'M GLAD TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE LORD
  • 17:34 BY BEING A PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR.
  • 17:36 AMEN.DOES YOUR BELIEF MAKE IT HARDER OR EASIER TO BE A COUNSELOR?
  • 17:42 MY BELIEF MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME TO BE A COUNSELOR.
  • 17:48 I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR ANYONE ELSE.
  • 17:53 BUT STRENGTH HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
  • 17:56 AMEN, I AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 17:57 AND PEOPLE HAVE PAIN AND GRIEF AND AS WE KNOW ONLY THE LORD CAN TRULY CARRY OUR SORROWS.
  • 18:07 AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 18:08 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT MY FAITH IN TIMES OF TROUBLE.
  • 18:13 AND HOW NICE IT IS TO TALK TO A COUNSELOR THAT IS A BELIEVER,
  • 18:17 THAT BELIEVES IN THE SAME WAY THAT I BELIEVE, THAT LOVES JESUS, LOVES YESHUA.
  • 18:21 HE HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE I KNOW IN MY LIFE.
  • 18:24 DO YOU THINK WOMEN MAKE GOOD COUNSELORS?
  • 18:27 ABSOLUTELY
  • 18:28 THAT SOUNDED LIKE KIND OF A SILLY QUESTION
  • 18:30 FOR WOMEN TALKING TO WOMEN.
  • 18:32 BUT IT'S A WOMEN'S PROGRAM AND I'M JUST INTERESTED,
  • 18:34 WHAT GIVES THE TEXTURE TO A WOMAN COUNSELOR DIFFERENT THAN A MAN?
  • 18:39 WOMEN ARE NATURALLY EMPATHETIC.
  • 18:43 WE ARE THE CAREGIVERS.
  • 18:45 WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
  • 18:49 THAT'S RIGHT.THAT IS RIGHT.
  • 18:51 WE LOOK AFTER OUR FAMILIES AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
  • 18:57 I THINK WOMEN RELATE TO WEAKNESS, TO VULNERABILITY,
  • 19:03 TO HURT. >>TO HURT.
  • 19:06 YEAH, I THINK SO.
  • 19:07 TO CHILDREN, TO THE ELDERLY.
  • 19:09 WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
  • 19:12 I'M SITTING HERE THINKING,
  • 19:14 IT'S LIKE A GUY WOULD SAY "OH, TOUGH UP AND GET IT OVER WITH."
  • 19:17 "GO ON DOWN THE ROAD".
  • 19:18 BUT A WOMAN I THINK SOMETIMES SAYS,
  • 19:20 "ITS OKAY LETS LOOK AT IT, LETS TALK ABOUT IT."
  • 19:23 IT'S THOSE TOUCHY, FEELY THINGS THAT WOMEN DO
  • 19:26 THAT MEN ARE NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH AT TIMES.
  • 19:30 WE'RE NOT USED TO BEING INA POWER POSITION HISTORICALLY. >>TRUE.THAT IS TRUE TOO.
  • 19:35 THEREFORE, WOMEN RELATE TO BEING THE UNDERDOG,
  • 19:40 TO THOSE THAT ARE HURTING AND TO THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
  • 19:44 HAS COUNSELING CHANGED ANY IN THE LAST 20 YEARS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN COUNSELING?
  • 19:49 PROBLEMS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME,
  • 19:52 BUT I THINK THAT IN MY AREA OF EXPERTISE IS WITH CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENCE
  • 19:57 AND THOSE PROBLEMS HAVE CHANGED SOMEWHAT
  • 20:01 BECAUSE OF THE INTERNET
  • 20:03 AND BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY
  • 20:06 AND BECAUSE OF KIND OF OUR NAME DOMINANT CULTURE BEING HIP HOP CULTURE
  • 20:12 WHICH EMBRACES AGGRESSION AND VIOLENCE >>THAT'S TRUE.
  • 20:15 AND TOUGHNESS.
  • 20:18 I THINK THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE GOTTEN...
  • 20:23 WHAT THEY'RE IN TO HAS KIND OF GONE UNDER THE RADAR OF THE ADULT EYE
  • 20:27 BECAUSE WE BARELY CAN KEEP UP WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
  • 20:30 IF YOU WATCH A TEENAGER ON A CELL PHONE
  • 20:33 THEY HAVE TEXT 10 MESSAGES BEFORE WE ARE EVEN AWARE THAT THEY'RE ON THE CELL PHONE.
  • 20:37 I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TEXT MESSAGING IS HARDLY.
  • 20:39 OKAY >>MUCH LESS WHEN A TEENAGER DOES IT
  • 20:42 BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE....
  • 20:44 I SEE THEM DOING ALL THAT STUFF
  • 20:46 BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW THAT ALL WORKS.
  • 20:48 SO THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE INTERNET HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING,
  • 20:51 THE COMMUNICATION, THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE INSTANTLY WITH OTHER PEOPLE HAS CHANGED.
  • 20:56 ABSOLUTELY
  • 20:57 SO I THINK ALSO THE RELATIONSHIPS MUST HAVE CHANGED ALSO.
  • 21:02 WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT BULLYING, ABOUT....
  • 21:05 I KNOW WHEN I WAS GROWING UP YOU DIDN'T REALLY HEAR MUCH ABOUT BULLYING
  • 21:09 BUT NOW I HEAR MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT.
  • 21:11 ARE WE ADDRESSING IT MORE OR IS IT MORE PREVALENT?
  • 21:15 IS IT BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, THE HIP HOP?
  • 21:16 IS IT THE MORE AGGRESSIVE SOCIETY?
  • 21:18 I THINK BULLYING IS VERY PREVALENT.
  • 21:21 BUT I ALSO BELIEVE
  • 21:23 THAT CHILDREN THAT
  • 21:25 ARE AGGRESSIVE ALSO
  • 21:27 CAN HAVE HIGHER SELF-ESTEEM
  • 21:29 THAN CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE.
  • 21:32 WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, BULLYING WAS A PROBLEM FOR ME
  • 21:36 BECAUSE I WAS A SORT OF GENTLE, OFF-BEAT CHILD THAT LACKED SOCIAL SKILLS
  • 21:44 AND I FOUND MYSELF TERRORIZED BY BULLIES AND BY AGGRESSION.
  • 21:48 AND I BEGAN TO NOT TRUST FEMALES.
  • 21:52 I DIDN'T WANT TO BE AROUND GIRLS,
  • 21:54 I WAS AFRAID OF GIRLS
  • 21:57 AND SAW THAT PATTERN FOLLOW INTO JR. HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL.
  • 22:01 WOMEN TERRORIZE ME BECAUSE OF THEIR TONGUE, THEIR GOSSIP, THEIR IGNORING YOU,
  • 22:08 BE YOUR FRIEND ONE DAY, NOT YOUR FRIEND THE NEXT DAY
  • 22:11 AND I THINK IT DETRACTED ME FROM BEING ABLE TO LEARN.
  • 22:16 I CAME OUT OF AN EDUCATION, OUT OF A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL, BUT IT WAS DIFFERENT.
  • 22:20 I MISSED SOME OF THAT GOSSIPY THAT WOMEN....
  • 22:24 BUT I HAVE HEARD TALES OF GIRLS JUST BEING TERRORS TO OTHER GIRLS
  • 22:28 AND I HATE THAT EXAMPLE THAT WE SEE.
  • 22:33 JEFF AND I KNOW YOU TEACH,
  • 22:34 YOU'VE TAUGHT
  • 22:35 AND DO YOU SEE CHANGES IN FEMALES?
  • 22:36 WHAT MAKES PATTY SPECIAL?
  • 22:38 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
  • 22:39 WELL, THERE'S A FEW THINGS,
  • 22:40 FIRST OF ALL ABOUT AGGRESSION.
  • 22:42 THE ABIGAIL STORY IS ONE OF TWO GUYS ARE READY TO.... >>RIGHT
  • 22:48 DAVID IS ESCALATING UP,
  • 22:50 HE'S READY TO GO AFTER NABAL
  • 22:52 AND THERE'S A WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE
  • 22:54 THAT GETS IN THERE AND CALMS IT DOWN.
  • 22:56 IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS WITH PATTY,
  • 22:59 SHE HAS A VERY GENTEEL DEMEANOR
  • 23:01 THAT'S OBVIOUS TO YOU AND >>SHE DOES, SHE'S A SWEETHEART.
  • 23:03 EVERYONE WHO'S WATCHING. >>OH, SHE'S JUST A SWEETHEART.
  • 23:05 IT SEEMS THAT WOMEN HAVE AN ABILITY TO DO THAT
  • 23:07 IN THE WAY THAT THEY ADMINISTRATE COUNSELING.
  • 23:09 SHE DOES IT WONDERFULLY.
  • 23:10 SHE DOES IT TO ME.
  • 23:11 I THANK YOU FOR COMING,
  • 23:12 YOU'RE JUST TERRIFIC.
  • 23:13 SHE'S JUST WONDERFUL JEFF.
  • 23:15 BACK AFTER THIS.
  • 23:33 (Zola playing recorder)
  • 24:36 IT'S EASY TO SIT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA
  • 24:39 AND EXTOL THE VIRTUES
  • 24:40 OF A WOMAN AS A COUNSELOR.
  • 24:41 IT'S EASY FOR ME TO
  • 24:43 SIT NEXT TO MY WIFE
  • 24:44 WHEN SANDRA TALKS TO HER AND PAT HER ON THE BACK..."YOU GO GIRL."
  • 24:47 BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE MALES OF THE SPECIES
  • 24:50 DON'T ALWAYS IN TRUTH VALUE OUR WIVES.
  • 24:54 I WONDERED WHY THAT'S THE CASE SOMETIME.
  • 24:56 WHEN WE LOOK IN THE BIBLICAL TEXT WE SEE THAT
  • 24:59 WOMEN PRESENT WITH AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF SKILL SETS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND.
  • 25:05 AND ARMED WITH BETTER UNDERSTANDING
  • 25:06 WE'RE ABLE TO PERFORM MORE SUCCESSFULLY IN THIS WORLD.
  • 25:09 AND CERTAINLY DAVID LEARNED THAT LESSON IN THIS CASE DIDN'T HE?
  • 25:13 A VERY GOOD POINT.
  • 25:14 I SAMUEL CHAPTER 25, VERSE 35 TALKS ABOUT THAT.
  • 25:17 IT SAYS,
  • 25:28 SHE WENT TO DAVID, HUMBLED HERSELF,
  • 25:31 BOWED DOWN BEFORE HIM,
  • 25:32 "PLEASE FORGIVE MY MASTER."
  • 25:34 HE FORGAVE HER AND LIFTED HER UP.
  • 25:36 IS THERE A SECRET BY THE WAY
  • 25:38 IN ORDER TO GET A HEARING WITH A MALE?
  • 25:40 WHERE HERE THE WOMAN PRESENTS RATHER HUMBLY IF YOU WILL
  • 25:44 BECAUSE THE MALES EVEN WHEN THEY'RE LOSING CONTROL
  • 25:46 STILL LIKE TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE IN CONTROL.
  • 25:48 RIGHT AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
  • 25:50 TO DEFUSE ANGER, SPEAK QUIETLY.
  • 25:53 YES, ITS INTERESTING THERE'S INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT HUSBANDS AND WIVES
  • 25:56 LEARNING HOW TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
  • 25:58 AND THE MALES OF THE SPECIES LIKE TO BE RESPECTED.
  • 26:01 THEY DO.
  • 26:02 THE WOMEN LOVE TO BE LOVED. >>ABSOLUTELY
  • 26:04 IN THIS CASE THE WOMEN PRESENT WITH INSIGHTS RESPECTFULLY AND THEN THAT OPENS DOORS.
  • 26:08 AND IT DID.SHE WAS THE RIGHT WOMAN AT THE RIGHT TIME AND SHE OBEYED WHAT SHE HAD TO DO.
  • 26:13 SHE OBEYED GOD AND WENT AND HUMBLED HERSELF AND SAVED A MASSACRE.
  • 26:18 YES SHE SURELY DID. >>GREAT COUNSELOR
  • 26:20 AND THEN OF COURSE WHAT HAPPENS TO HER IN THE END,
  • 26:21 DAVID COMES BACK AND ASKS HER TO BE HIS WIFE.
  • 26:24 BIBLE'S FULL OF HAPPY ENDINGS.
  • 26:26 HERE'S A WOMAN THAT WAS PROBABLY FRUSTRATED,
  • 26:28 OH, CAN YOU IMAGINE?
  • 26:30 CONSIDERING WHO SHE WAS AND WHAT SHE ATTACHED TO IN MARRIAGE
  • 26:31 SHE WAS PROBABLY LIKE, "OH GOD."
  • 26:34 BUT GOD HEARS PRAYERS.
  • 26:36 GOD KNOWS.
  • 26:37 AND GIVES MORE THAN WE ASK FOR. >>THAT'S THE TRUTH.
  • 26:39 AND THAT'S THE BLESSING IN THE WHOLE THING.
  • 26:40 NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MANAGERS,
  • 26:42 THE PROVERBS 31 WOMAN, ONE OF MY FAVORITE TEACHINGS JEFF.
  • 26:46 AND AS YOU GO,
  • 26:47 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
  • 26:49 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Wives / Eve
  2. Mothers / Hannah
  3. Counselors / Abigail
  4. Managers / "The Virtuous Wife" of Proverbs 31
  5. Deviants / Delilah
  6. Educators / Lois & Eunice
  7. Widows
  8. Queens / Esther
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