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Episode: “Bill Koenig and Yoram Ettinger”

On our new set, we introduce White House correspondent Bill Koenig, who talks to Todd Baker about the current nuclear agreement with Iran. Yoram Ettinger describes Iran’s ultimate goal of world domination.

Series: “Israel In Prophecy”

This series addresses the very human need to understand the supernatural. People all over the world are looking for… something. We interviewed key leaders in the prophecy movement in order to equip our viewers with biblical truth as the world explores every strange doctrine.

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Caption transcript for Israel In Prophecy: “Bill Koenig and Yoram Ettinger” (2/8)

00:02 The issue is not Israel and I think Americans should wake up to reality.
00:06 The reality is that Iran develops capability
00:09 in order to advance their mega-historical goal,
00:13 domination of the Gulf and the Sunni Muslim world.
00:16 In order to attain that goal they have to remove what they perceive to be the mega-obstacle
00:22 which has nothing to do with Israel.
00:24 It's the U.S. military power projection.
00:33 This know also that in the last days perilous times shall come.
00:39 Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived.
00:47 But continue in the Holy Scriptures
00:50 which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
01:10 Shalom and welcome to our program...I'm Myles Weiss
01:12 And I'm Katharine Weiss
01:14 We hope you're enjoying our new set.
01:16 It's the year of "the open door" in Hebrew...5774
01:20 And so here we are...
01:21 a new set...a new open door for us to bring you the same message with the same meaning
01:26 because God is on the move.
01:28 Yeshua said in Matthew 25 that He would gather the nations to judge them
01:32 and we're seeing that setup in the world today aren't we?
01:35 Absolutely...we need to view current events through the lens of the scripture.
01:39 And like you always said Myles the headlines are catching up with the Bible.
01:43 Exactly...we have the final word in scripture so we know it's a good story.
01:47 It has a happy ending.
01:49 We're in good shape but there may be some bumps along the way.
01:51 In this program today we're going to hear from two fantastic speakers;
01:55 Bill Koenig of "watch.org"
01:58 and Yoram Ettinger who is an Israeli spokesman...
02:00 a "think tank", a consultant and one of the greatest voices today
02:05 regarding politics and the way they're shaping up to really line up with the scriptures.
02:09 So without any further ado
02:11 let's go to Todd Baker our staff theologian as he interviews these two men.
02:17 Well it's a very interesting perspective because Obama said over and over again
02:21 especially since March of last year that he has Israel's back.
02:25 And at the same time he's been putting people in positions
02:28 such as Chuck Hagel and John Brennan in the CIA.
02:32 Samantha Power is his UN Ambassador
02:36 and also Susan Rice is the National Security Counsel Head..
02:41 that are not extremely pro-Israel.
02:43 So that obviously concerned a lot of us.
02:45 At the same time Obama's reassuring the people
02:48 and especially the Jewish people that helped put him in office.
02:51 He ran a brilliant campaign
02:53 and that's really how he got elected not only in 2008 but in 2012 as well.
02:57 So from our Biblical lens we're concerned about the fact
03:03 that the recent deal in Geneva with the P5
03:08 which is the five members of the UN Security Council...
03:11 Russian, China, France, Britain and the United States
03:16 and Germany the plus one is a bad deal.
03:20 It's a bad deal for Israel; it's a bad deal for the Middle East but a good deal for Iran.
03:25 So we started to look at the scriptures more carefully
03:27 and obviously that's the lens which we watch the Middle East
03:31 and we looked at Jeremiah 49:35-39...
03:35 Okay
03:38 ...which is a very interesting area of prophecy that's not talked about very often
03:43 but it talks about Elam which is Persian which would be Iran.
03:48 And this particular area speaks of Elam being devastated
03:52 in a conflict where they will be broken...
03:55 which the bow, their military, the missile launching...
03:58 that they will deal and experience a devastating blow.
04:02 And as you see the week that they are meeting in Geneva, Switzerland
04:06 Khamenei and Ruwani and the other leaders of Iran
04:11 were speaking horrible things about Israel.
04:14 They called them a rabid dog.
04:15 They were saying we're going to eliminate this Zionist entity.
04:18 This is at the same time the International Community is negotiating in Geneva.
04:21 That should be immediately a reason for them to step away...
04:24 That's a big red flag right there.
04:26 Exactly
04:27 So as Bible prophecy is, what is written will happen
04:31 and that's why we're looking as they LORD is allowing this leadership in Iran
04:37 to become more boisterous and vocal and more...
04:41 Militant...
04:42 ...Militant
04:43 That He is going to allow this to happen
04:45 and they're going to experience in my belief a devastating defeat.
04:49 Their people will be spread far and wide
04:52 and that the Gospel will be spread throughout Iran like never before.
04:57 Amen
04:59 Well you know and I'm sure you've heard of the historical analogy
05:02 Obama suing for "peace" with Iran is like Nevelle Chamberlain in 1938 in Munich.
05:11 We have peace in our time and he waived the white paper.
05:13 I kind of see the same thing being done today with this recent new deal with Iran.
05:18 What are your thoughts on that?
05:20 I absolutely agree with you.
05:22 We're hearing a lot of people talk about that.
05:24 People in Israel, within the administration, and also Charles Krauthammer.
05:28 A lot of us appreciate his work here in the states with FOX.
05:32 He said the same thing.
05:33 A lot of people are comparing the Chamberlain/Hitler agreement
05:36 with the U.S. P5 Groups deal with Iran.
05:42 A lot of parallels...I mean do you not see this as a dangerous entity?
05:47 Do you not realize that 56% of the world's oil is right there
05:52 in the Persian Gulf and inside of Iraq and inside of Saudi Arabia?
05:56 Do you not know that this is a conflict between Shia Islam and Sunni Islam?
06:01 Do you know for the fact that Saudi Arabia is petrified of a nuclear Iran?
06:06 They believe that they will be second after Israel.
06:10 Do you not read...
06:12 I mean this Intel...
06:14 I mean do you not believe the Intel that you're reading
06:16 about this dangerous precedent that's being set in the Persian Gulf?
06:20 And if Iran controls that oil through the Persian Gulf
06:23 it will bring the world economies to their knees.
06:26 It's flabbergasting really to be honest with you.
06:29 Correct me if I'm wrong...
06:31 this agreement also still allows Iran to continue with nuclear enrichment.
06:38 Yes, enrichment...
06:39 I believe it's up to 5 percent...
06:42 it might be up to 20 percent
06:44 but basically everything they've pretty much have already been working on
06:48 they have another 6 month period of pretty much work that they need to be in their estimation
06:57 needs to complete the weaponry of the development of their nuclear bomb.
07:03 I don't have all the specifics but I do read to summarize it...
07:07 yes those things that were most crucial in terms of stopping this
07:13 will not really be addressed fully until about 6 months out
07:17 and very likely Iran will already be finished.
07:22 You know it reminds me of when President Clinton was negotiating with North Korea
07:27 and he believed they're going to stop their endeavor to try to get nuclear weaponry
07:32 and they made a deal and of course we know that North Korea reneged on it.
07:37 Well that's a perfect parallel.
07:39 Senator Cruz brought that out this week.
07:41 He did a great job of explaining the Clinton hopes
07:45 with the 1994 agreement with Korea and North Korea
07:49 and the fact that it hasn't worked at all.
07:52 And the other sad irony to this is the fact that North Korea is working very closely with Iran
07:59 That's true
08:00 ...on how to disguise your program
08:02 and also they believe that a lot of the potential missile launching capabilities
08:07 will be perfected in that North Korean-Iranian relationship
08:12 without anything being done on Iran's shore
08:16 in terms of a longer more sophisticated missile.
08:19 I do know for a fact that Iran has made significant inroads over the last 24 to 36 months
08:29 in as far as their short term...
08:31 I should put it this way...
08:33 short range missile capabilities that puts those Persian Gulf countries at risk.
08:39 This is a great interest and a great concern to those countries because...
08:43 and that's from one of Israel's top missile experts, Uzi Rubin
08:48 who helped develop the aero-missile defense system.
08:51 He's the one that said they made incredible leaps in technology over the last few years
08:56 and that has a lot of people concerned.
08:59 And then the ICBM is what North Korea and Iran is working on that would put Europe
09:03 as well as Russia and the United States at risk of a long range future nuclear target.
09:12 Well we're certainly right at the threshold of so many end time events
09:17 and all of this that's going on is certainly precipitating that isn't it?
09:21 Well its right there you know.
09:23 The time clock is Jerusalem.
09:26 That's God's time clock
09:27 and the nations of the world are still obsessed with the dividing of the land of Israel.
09:32 Let's put it this way, the nations of the world, the leadership of the world
09:39 wants to make Judea and Samaria an Arab state.
09:46 It is so important to understand Israel in these times that we're living in.
09:50 If we don't understand the view of Israel according to scripture...
09:54 it's like taking the hands off the clock
09:57 and we won't know what time we're in in this prophetic time that we're standing in.
10:01 That's exactly right...Israel is the prophetic time clock.
10:04 And as things are intensifying in the earth and as the nations are setting up
10:09 getting ready to come against Jerusalem according to scripture
10:11 good news as well...
10:13 Hormoz Shariat, a good friend of ours is preaching the Gospel every evening into Iran
10:18 and so there are people getting saved by the hundreds sometimes by the thousands
10:21 because of the Gospel going forth into Iran in Farsi in their own language.
10:27 And it's a wonderful story that we never hear about. That's right
10:29 And so you need to know that there are good things happening among the Persian people.
10:33 We'll be back after this.
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12:12 The scripture says in Joel 4:14,
12:15 (Speaking Hebrew)
12:18 That multitudes; multitudes in the valley of decision
12:22 And the nations are being set up; they're going to come against Jerusalem.
12:25 We see that happening.
12:26 We're going to bring you Yoram Etinger.
12:29 Todd interviewed him He is a voice from Israel.
12:32 He is an ambassador level voice, he's an insider and he runs a think tank in Israel.
12:37 So let's go to that interview now.
12:41 Well in my assessment this agreement reflects determination by the Whitehouse
12:46 to learn from history by repeating rather than avoiding mistakes...
12:54 mistakes which were committed in the negotiation with North Korea.
13:00 The fact is that for 50 years the current methodology was used also with North Korea
13:07 and the output is very obvious...
13:10 another anti-American rogue regime with nuclear power in North Korea.
13:18 For 50 years they tried negotiation and diplomacy
13:21 and economic sanctions and carrots and sticks
13:25 and they were testing to no avail.
13:28 For the last 30 years the same methodology has been employed with Iran
13:33 and here we are at the end of the last lap of the Iranian nuclear marathon.
13:39 And once again we hear that there's a chance for diplomacy
13:44 as if we haven't had a 50 year and a 30 year track record.
13:48 The other concerning issue is that this agreement could very well catapult Iran
13:56 from a medium size tactical controllable threat
14:01 to a supersize uncontrollable strategic threat
14:07 with apocalyptic vision which does not render itself to mutual assured destruction.
14:14 The difference between a nuclear Iran and a nuclear Soviet Union
14:20 is the Soviet Union were constrained by their own concern for mutual assured destruction.
14:27 The apocalyptic nature of the Iranian regime
14:31 does not lend itself to be concerned about mutual assured destruction
14:36 and we can get a glimpse of what is this regime all about when we go back to the war against Iraq
14:42 where they sent 500,000 youngsters to clear mine fields
14:48 in order to facilitate the war against Iraq.
14:51 There are those who claim that Iran is just like North Korea no big danger to the global safety.
14:58 The difference is North Korea does not harbor any imperialistic megalomaniac
15:04 aspirations to control Asia, to control the world.
15:08 Iran does...Iran wants to dominate the Gulf,
15:11 Iran wants to dominate the Sunni Muslim world;
15:14 Iran wants to dominate consequently the rest of the world.
15:18 This has been their world view and therefore a nuclear Iran
15:22 would build more insanity to an already increasingly insane world.
15:28 Yeah and Iran has always said before and now after this deal
15:34 which I think is no better than the deal that Neville Chamberlain made with Hitler
15:39 and we saw where that went.
15:41 Iran has stated from the outset and continues to state
15:44 that one of their first objectives is to destroy Israel.
15:48 Well the issue is not Israel and I think that Americans should wake up to a reality.
15:53 The reality is that Iran develops the capability
15:57 in order to advance their mega historical goal
16:01 domination of the Gulf and the Sunni Muslim world.
16:03 In order to attain that goal they have to remove what they perceive to be the mega obstacle
16:10 which has nothing to do with Israel...
16:12 it's the U.S. military power projection in the Gulf,
16:15 in the Indian Ocean, the Middle East at large.
16:18 And in order to remove that mega obstacle they develop the mega capability which is nuclear.
16:25 It has nothing to do with Israel,
16:27 not the Arab-Israeli conflict,
16:29 not the Palestinian issue.
16:31 The problem is that the U.S. negotiates with Iran
16:35 as if Iran is a rogue regime which considers peaceful coexistence.
16:41 With such rogue regimes it pays off to negotiate but Iran is a different type of rogue regime.
16:47 While they negotiate with John Kerry and Obama
16:51 they support the killing of Americans in Afghanistan,
16:54 they support subversion in the pro-American Arab oil producing regimes in the Persian Gulf,
17:01 they collaborate with Venezuela to stir up anti-American feeling sentiments in Latin America,
17:09 they are the number one patron of anti-American Islamic terrorism
17:14 including scores of sleeper cells in your own continent
17:19 and at the same we hear that they are partners to a peaceful negotiation...
17:23 Peaceful negotiation and the Ayatollah's regime in Tehran are a classic case of oxymoron.
17:32 Yes and there certainly is a clear and present danger now.
17:36 You had referenced North Korea,
17:39 and Obama I think is making the same mistake President Clinton made
17:43 when he thought he could negotiate with North Korea and get them to cut back
17:48 and altogether stop their nuclear program and of course they were stringing him along.
17:52 Well in fact the leader of the chief negotiator with North Korea is exactly...
17:58 Oh I didn't know that.
18:00 ...the same person who could today negotiate with Iran, Miss Wendy Sherman.
18:04 Miss Wendy Sherman was Mr. Clinton's chief negotiator.
18:08 She failed miserably with North Korea.
18:11 She is given now another chance and guess what?
18:14 She's following exactly the same path of once again concessions, once again appeasement,
18:21 one again diplomacy and testing intentions which did not work with North Korea,
18:27 has not worked with Iran
18:29 and there's no reason why one should think logically it will work again with Iran.
18:37 Well in light of this of course
18:39 Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister of Israel has boldly and courageously stood up and denounced this.
18:45 What will Israel do in light of let's say Iran continues down a road of nuclear acquisition.
18:55 What do you see the state of Israel doing?
18:57 Well it seems to me that again after 30 years of failed economic sanctions and diplomacy
19:03 this is the time to reach a common sense conclusion.
19:08 And the common sense conclusion is that those who are intimidated by threat of war
19:14 are bringing war in fact that much closer to the free world
19:19 and therefore there is only one working option.
19:23 And this is pre-emption, a military pre-emption
19:26 and I emphasize... with no boots on the ground.
19:29 There's no need to employ boots on the ground.
19:33 If one wants to obliterate the nuclear infrastructure in Iran
19:39 it would be much easier for the U.S. but it will be also possible for Israel.
19:44 For the U.S. you have a huge military presence in Bahrain,
19:49 in Saudi Arabia, in the Persian Gulf, in the Indian Ocean.
19:53 It would be a medium sized military exercise
19:57 with bunker busters, sophisticated missile warheads launched at those missile bases.
20:05 For Israel it would be significantly more complex
20:10 but this has been the story of Jewish history... very complex history.
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21:01 The Jewish nation was established because everywhere the Jewish people went
21:06 they were persecuted, hounded and threatened.
21:11 And then with the Shoah finally they realized
21:14 we've got to go back to our home where we belong.
21:17 Not only where we belong
21:19 but where we serve the interests of the free world in the most effective way.
21:26 It's time for people in the U.S. to realize
21:29 that there's only one...only one affective ally for the U.S.
21:35 not only in the Middle East but anywhere in the world...
21:38 namely Israel is the only ally of the U.S.A.
21:41 with both capabilities as well as will power.
21:45 You have many allies with capabilities in Europe but they have lost God...
21:49 they have lost faith...
21:51 they have lost confidence and they don't have the will power...Israel is the only one.
21:56 And at the time when the Arab Tsunami is sweeping
22:00 more and more to our American elements in the Arab world
22:04 at the time when the Arab Tsunami highlights the unpredictability...
22:07 the unreliability...
22:09 the treacherous, the violent intolerant nature of the Arab Islamic Middle East...
22:15 this is the time when Israel is more and more highlighted
22:19 as the only stable and reliable and capable commercially and militarily,
22:24 the only democratic and most importantly the only unconditional ally of the U.S.
22:31 And while the U.S. is in retreat from Iraq and Afghanistan
22:35 and cuts dramatically the defense budget while the threats to the U.S. are mounting
22:41 and Russia and China penetrate deeper and deeper into the Middle East and beyond,
22:47 the only element in the entire world that can breach the gap
22:52 between the shortening American strategic hand on one hand
22:56 and the increasing threats and the needs is Israel.
23:01 And therefore the alliance between U.S.A. and Israel
23:05 is much more appropriate and natural at this time of the Arab Tsunami and the Iranian threat.
23:12 The tragedy is that this agreement signed with nuclear Iran...
23:18 this agreement is in line with American policy visa with Syria and visa with Egypt, etc.
23:24 proves once again that the American Administration
23:28 is intent to focus on the tumbleweeds in the Middle East
23:33 while it is being smothered by an Egyptian sandstorm,
23:37 Syrian sandstorm, Iranian sandstorm, Islamic sandstorms
23:42 and here they are dealing with a Palestinian tumbleweed
23:46 which is along the road there in the Middle East.
23:51 It's really sad at a time when the U.S. and the Obama administration
23:56 needs to strengthen their ties with Israel.
23:59 They seem to be through this deal with Iran...
24:03 they seem to be greatly weakening those ties
24:06 and it's troubling for us here in America who support Israel
24:10 for political as well as theological reasons.
24:14 It's frustrating for us.
24:15 But one should pay attention
24:18 that luckily the American political system does not allow for a monarch...
24:24 Right...
24:26 does not allow for a single dominant branch of government
24:30 And today we experience unprecedented
24:33 U.S - Israel strategic cooperation, economic cooperation
24:38 not because of the Whitehouse...
24:41 sometimes even in spite of the Whitehouse
24:43 but primarily because this is the will of the American people,
24:47 this is the will of their representatives on Capitol Hill, the House and the Senate
24:54 and most importantly this is an outcome
24:57 of the unprecedented mutual threats facing both the U.S. and Israel
25:03 built on top a very healthy unique foundations of shared Judeo-Christian values.
25:10 We don't have any other set of relationships as we do have with the U.S.
25:16 where it is bottom up type of relations unlike all others which are up to the bottom.
25:25 I so appreciate Yoram Etinger's viewpoint.
25:27 He speaks politically yet you can hear the wisdom of the word behind what he's saying
25:32 and really he draws a parallel,
25:34 the connection between America and Israel
25:37 and the importance of that shared destiny...doesn't he?
25:40 Yeah, they're the people of the Book...right?
25:42 And God has intended us as a nation to stand and align ourselves with His Book.
25:49 When we do we're able to see clearly what's happening in these days.
25:53 The world always wants to focus on giving the Palestinians a nation and dividing Israel
26:00 but there's a real danger in that.
26:02 We see it in scripture in Joel.
26:05 But if we pray that the surrounding nations
26:08 would align themselves with what God wants for them
26:11 which is to absorb these Palestinians into their nation
26:16 there wouldn't be such a war going on Myles.
26:19 It's a big prayer that we're reaching for
26:22 that the surrounding nations would absorb their Arab brothers and sisters into their nations.
26:27 The alliance between Israel and America is appropriate and natural.
26:32 We heard Etinger say it's the only democracy in the Middle East and they're there to stay.
26:37 Amos 9:15 said that we would be planted in the land never to be uprooted again.
26:42 In fact we have a friend that we just sent to Israel
26:45 to help harvest the grapes with the orthodox Jews
26:47 in the mountains of Samaria in the heartland of Israel.
26:51 That's fulfilling scripture.
26:52 And scripture is being fulfilled.
26:53 Even the Rabbis in the mountains of Samaria have said
26:56 that this is of God, this prophetic ending is of God.
26:59 Zachariah 12:9 tells us
27:01 (Speaking Hebrew)
27:05 The nations will come against Jerusalem.
27:08 And that's why in these days more than ever
27:10 we need to stand with the people of Israel and with the City of Jerusalem.
27:15 And so until we see you again remember...
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