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Series: “Bad Moon Rising”
Dr. Jeffrey Seif remembers yesterday’s Holocaust and considers anti-Semitism’s rise in modern-day Europe. Though dressed this time in Islamic garb and not in Nazi uniforms, anti-Semitism is making fresh headway in the world, its current surge fueled by the radical Islamic fringe as it turns out the lights of once-Christian Europe. Jeff speaks out against this trend with a prophetic voice and calls individuals, particularly Europeans and onlooking North Americans, to resist the encroaching darkness and walk in the light of God’s grace and love.
Episode: “Dark Night of the Soul”
Jeff speaks from inside the barracks of Dachau. Sandra Levitt and Will King interview survivors who worked on the bunker where Hitler planned to manufacture his Messerschmitt aircraft.

Caption transcript for Bad Moon Rising: “Dark Night of the Soul” (3/8)

  • 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
  • 00:10 AS DARK CLOUDS OMINOUSLY LOOM OVER THE HORIZON
  • 00:14 RADICAL MUSLIMS CHARGE THE ATMOSPHERE
  • 00:18 WITH BRAZEN DISREGARD.
  • 00:20 AS THE SUN SETS OVER CHRISTIAN EUROPE
  • 00:23 SLEEPING CHRISTIANS NEED TO WAKE UP
  • 00:26 NON-CHRISTIANS NEED TO GET UP
  • 00:28 AND MODERATE MUSLIMS NEED TO RISE UP.
  • 00:42 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
  • 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF HERE,
  • 00:45 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
  • 00:47 SHALOM, WELCOME TO "BAD MOON RISING"
  • 00:49 JEFF I'M REMINDED THAT SHALOM ALSO MEANS PEACE.
  • 00:52 I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:54 YES AND ITS WONDERFUL TO SEE PEACEFUL PEOPLE
  • 00:57 LOOKING TO MAKE PEACE IN A TROUBLED WORLD. >>RIGHT
  • 01:00 WE WENT TO EUROPE IN PART;
  • 01:02 THE CATALYST FOR ME WAS CHRISTIANS THERE
  • 01:05 THAT WERE BENT ON STANDING UP FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 01:09 I REMEMBER SOME TIME AGO I WAS ON A SEARCH FOR MODEL CHURCHES
  • 01:13 THAT SEEM TO SHOW A LOVE FOR ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 01:15 I FOUND THE TOP ONE OF THE YEAR IN TUBINGEN, GERMANY.
  • 01:19 AND HERE THEY'RE ON A MARCH FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND FOR JESUS.
  • 01:22 THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO DO.
  • 01:24 THEY FELT THE NEED THAT THEY WANTED TO MARCH FOR LIFE INSTEAD OF FOR DEATH.
  • 01:28 AND THEY TOOK OUT AND THEY HELD IT AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE CAME.
  • 01:33 AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE GETTING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING
  • 01:36 NOT JUST BELIEVING SOMETHING IN A CHURCH.
  • 01:38 AND MAKING A STATEMENT.
  • 01:40 CAN YOU IMAGINE WALKING THROUGH THE TOWNS OF GERMANY AND MAKING THAT STATEMENT?
  • 01:43 "I'M STANDING UP FOR THE JEWS. HERE I AM A GERMAN."
  • 01:45 RIGHT >>IT'S JUST WONDERFUL!
  • 01:47 WE'LL GO TO THAT MARCH NOW.
  • 01:54 ORIGINALLY I COME FROM BAVARIA FROM THIS AREA OF GERMANY.
  • 01:56 ITS NOT JUST GERMAN PAST
  • 01:58 BUT IT'S MY PERSONAL PAST
  • 02:00 SO I KNOW IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART.
  • 02:05 (Man speaking) GOD WANTS TO USE THE GERMAN BELIEVERS WHO REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS WAYS
  • 02:10 TO BRING HEALING TO THE HEART OF ISRAEL.
  • 02:15 (Woman speaking) MY REASON IS THAT THESE THINGS CAN NEVER HAPPEN TO GERMANY
  • 02:18 AND I FEEL ASHAMED ABOUT IT.
  • 02:20 (Man speaking) IT'S THE TIME ESPECIALLY FOR US AS GERMANS NOT TO KEEP SILENT
  • 02:24 AND TO RAISE OUR VOICES AGAIN AND SAY THAT WHAT HAPPENED BY OUR FOREFATHERS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
  • 02:35 THE GERMAN BELIEVERS ARE...
  • 02:36 THEY HAVE SO MUCH LOVE...
  • 02:39 ITS ALL I CAN SAY...
  • 02:40 SO MUCH LOVE.
  • 02:42 (man blowing ram's horn)
  • 02:51 (Sandra speaking) THESE MARCHES ARE HEADED TOWARD DACHAU,
  • 02:53 A SO CALLED WORK CAMP RUN BY THE NAZIS IN WWII.
  • 02:56 IT WAS HERE IN THESE BUILDINGS THAT THOUSANDS WERE HOUSED
  • 02:58 WITH THE PROMISE THAT WORK WOULD ONE DAY MAKE THEM FREE.
  • 03:04 NOW I LAY ME DOWN TO SLEEP.
  • 03:07 IT'S A FAMOUS BEDTIME PRAYER.
  • 03:10 I PUT MY KIDS TO BED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SAID IT ONCE OR TWICE MYSELF.
  • 03:14 WONDER WHAT THEY PRAYED HERE?
  • 03:17 DACHAU
  • 03:19 YOU'VE HEARD THE EXPRESSION "BUNK BEDS",
  • 03:21 WELL, THESE ARE THE BUNKS HERE THAT WAREHOUSED HUMAN BEINGS.
  • 03:26 HORRIBLE PLACE TO LIVE IF YOU CAN EVEN CALL THIS LIVING.
  • 03:30 THEY'RE CRAMMED IN HERE, IT WAS MISERABLE.
  • 03:32 THERE'S NO HEAT,
  • 03:34 THERE'S NO AIR CONDITIONING,
  • 03:35 THERE'S THE STENCH OF BODIES ROUND ABOUT,
  • 03:38 SANITATION IS POOR,
  • 03:40 EVERYTHING IS MISERABLE ABOUT WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.
  • 03:43 AND HOW CAN I COMMUNICATE TO YOU WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
  • 03:47 I WONDER IF THE MANY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT WERE ENTERED ALL OVER GERMANY...
  • 03:54 HOW DO YOU TELL THEIR STORY AS THESE PEOPLE LAY DOWN AT NIGHT
  • 03:58 NOT KNOWING IF THEY WOULD RISE AGAIN,
  • 04:01 NOT KNOWING IF THEY EVEN WANTED TO.
  • 04:03 DACHAU IN MANY RESPECTS WAS THE MOTHER HOUSE OF A NETWORK OF SOME 1200 CAMPS.
  • 04:10 THIS WAS THE MODEL.
  • 04:12 ACTUALLY DACHAU WAS COMMISSIONED JUST A FEW WEEKS AFTER HITLER CAME TO POWER.
  • 04:16 THE WORLD DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HITLER WAS ALL ABOUT,
  • 04:19 GERMANY DIDN'T,
  • 04:20 BUT HITLER KNEW WHAT HITLER WAS ALL ABOUT AND BEGAN THE PROCESS OF HUMAN WAREHOUSING,
  • 04:25 AGAIN JUST IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE CAME TO POWER,
  • 04:28 RESULTED IN SO MANY THOUSAND, SO MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS.
  • 04:31 HERE IN DACHAU AS MANY AS 200,000 PEOPLE LIVED HERE
  • 04:35 IF YOU CAN CALL THIS LIVING.
  • 04:37 IT'S LIFE IN A PHANTASMAL NON LIFE.
  • 04:40 IT'S A LIFE WHERE DEATH IS PREFERRED.
  • 04:43 IN FACT, I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF PEOPLE THAT COULD BEAR THIS NO LONGER
  • 04:46 AND THEN WENT AND THREW THEMSELVES AGAINST THE BARB WIRE,
  • 04:49 THEY WENT INTO FORBIDDEN ZONES OF THE CAMP ONLY TO BE SHOT.
  • 04:52 THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET SOME REST FROM THEIR MISERY.
  • 04:55 WELL INDIVIDUALS LAID FOR REST HERE AND AGAIN HOW MUCH REST THEY GOT I DON'T KNOW.
  • 05:00 THE THOUGHTS THAT WERE ON THEIR MINDS,
  • 05:03 IT'S HARD TO CONSTRUCT ALL OF THAT,
  • 05:06 TO RECONSTRUCT IT ALL.
  • 05:08 OF GERMAN-JEWISH EXTRACT MYSELF I ADMIT TO THERE BEING A RUSH OF EMOTIONS, SOME SENTIMENT,
  • 05:13 EVEN IN TRYING TO TELL THIS STORY MY MIND IS CLOGGED UP A BIT.
  • 05:18 IN PSALM CHAPTER 55 DAVID CRIES OUT,
  • 05:27 WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN ABYSMAL CIRCUMSTANCES
  • 05:30 YOU CAN SAY "GOD WHERE ARE YOU?"
  • 05:32 "PLEASE, I NEED YOU TO COME OUT OF OBSCURITY AND SHOW YOURSELF HERE PLEASE."
  • 05:35 HE SAYS,
  • 05:42 HERE THEY GROAN QUIETLY, NOISILY I DON'T KNOW WHICH,
  • 05:45 BUT I KNOW THEY GROANED.
  • 05:47 HE SAYS HERE,
  • 05:56 IS THIS NOT SO MUCH THE EXPERIENCE OF THOSE WHO DWELT HERE?
  • 05:59 JEWS AND NOT JUST JEWS,
  • 06:01 IT WAS ANYBODY THAT WAS JUST NON-COMPLIANT WITH HITLER'S REGIME
  • 06:05 WAS DESTINED FOR THIS PLACE AND OTHERS LIKE IT.
  • 06:08 THIS HAPPENED IN A BY-GONE ERA
  • 06:10 AND IT TELLS ME THAT HUMANS ARE INDEED CAPABLE
  • 06:13 OF COMMITTING HEINOUS CRIMES
  • 06:15 AGAINST THOSE THAT DON'T TOW THE PARTY LINE.
  • 06:18 HE SAYS HERE IN VERSE 4,
  • 06:32 OF COURSE, THEY DIDN'T JUST FLY AWAY AND FIND REST.
  • 06:36 DEATH GAVE REST,
  • 06:38 A LIBERATION OF THIS CAMP, DACHAU AND OTHERS LIKE IT GAVE REST.
  • 06:42 BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE REST IN THIS SENSE.
  • 06:44 I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE AS JUST A FOOTNOTE TO A HISTORY IN A BYGONE ERA.
  • 06:50 I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE SAME FORCES OF ANTI-LIFE
  • 06:55 THAT WERE BENT ON CRUSHING OPPOSITION IN GENERAL AND JEWS IN PARTICULAR IN THIS DOMAIN
  • 07:00 EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY
  • 07:02 AND THIS IS BEING FOISTED UPON THE WORLD IN THE FORM OF A RELIGIOUS SYSTEM CALLED ISLAM.
  • 07:07 WHILE IT'S TRUE THAT NOT EVERY ADHERENT TO ISLAM BUYS INTO JIHAD
  • 07:12 AND IS BENT ON CRUSHING AND ACQUIRING PEOPLE AND POSSESSION AND LANDS AND DOMAINS.
  • 07:18 WHILE THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY, IT'S ENOUGH OF THE BODIES WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
  • 07:22 THERE'S ENOUGH POWER THERE.
  • 07:24 THOSE OF US THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE OF ISLAM NEED TO BE CONCERNED
  • 07:27 BECAUSE THERE'S AMPLE PRECEDENT IN HISTORY THAT THOSE THAT RESISTED
  • 07:32 FOUND A FATE LIKE THIS IF NOT WORSE, IF IT CAN EVEN BE WORSE, ITS HARD TO SAY.
  • 07:37 IN ANY EVENT INASMUCH AS PRAYERS WENT OUT FROM THESE BEDS,
  • 07:41 WE NEED TO BE PRAYING FROM OUR OWN HOUSES AND BEDS TODAY,
  • 07:43 "LORD PLEASE DELIVER US FROM EVIL."
  • 07:46 FOR IT EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY.
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  • 08:29 (Jeff speaking) CRUELTIES AND SECRETS FROM THE HOLOCAUST ARE STILL BEING UNEARTHED TODAY
  • 08:35 AT A LITTLE KNOWN OUT CAMP OF DACHAU NEAR LANDSBERG, GERMANY.
  • 08:39 WILL KING DISCOVERED A HIDDEN BUNKER AND INTERVIEWED COMMANDER FRITZ ODINIOUS ABOUT IT.
  • 08:48 TELLS US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT...
  • 08:50 WE'RE SITTING OUTSIDE ONE OF THE ENTRANCES HERE TO THE BUNKER.
  • 08:52 TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUNKER ITSELF AND ITS HISTORY.
  • 08:54 WELL THE HISTORY IS STARTED IN THE 2ND WORLD WAR.
  • 08:57 THE BUILDING WAS STARTED IN THE 2ND WORLD WAR
  • 09:00 AND SHOULD HOUSE THEN AN AIRCRAFT FACTORY
  • 09:04 AS A LAST MEASURE TO BREAK THE AIR SUPERIORITY OF THE ALLIED FORCES.
  • 09:11 SIX BUNKERS WERE TO BE CONCEIVED IN THE WHOLE AREA OF GERMANY
  • 09:15 AND THEY STARTED TO BUILD THESE BUNKERS HERE IN 1944.
  • 09:21 SO ONLY ONE YEAR BEFORE THE WAR WAS ENDED.
  • 09:24 IT WAS BUILT BY INMATES,
  • 09:26 THEY WERE HOUSED IN 11 OUT CAMPS OF DACHAU,
  • 09:31 THE VERY, VERY HARD WORK
  • 09:33 AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T SURVIVE THIS WORK.
  • 09:36 THEY CAME HERE BY 30,000 AND ONLY 15,000 SURVIVED
  • 09:42 WHICH MEANS 15,000 PEOPLE DIED
  • 09:45 BY BUILDING THIS SILLY 200 METERS OF OUTER SHELL OF THIS BUNKER.
  • 09:50 YOU SAID THIS IS JUST ONE IN A COMPLEX OF 6 BUNKERS
  • 09:52 THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT FOR THE ME262S CORRECT?
  • 09:55 YES THAT IS CORRECT.
  • 09:58 IT WAS FIRST SERIAL AIRCRAFT 262
  • 10:02 BUT THIS MEASURE WAS NOT FINISHED
  • 10:05 AND NONE OF THOSE 150 PERSPECTIVE AIRCRAFTS PER MONTH WAS EVER BUILT HERE.
  • 10:13 AND AT THE TIME OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER IN THE YEAR 1944
  • 10:18 THE TWO OTHER BUNKERS WHO HAD BEEN PLANNED HERE,
  • 10:23 THE BUILDING MEASURES STOPPED AND ONLY THIS BUNKER WAS....
  • 10:27 THEY TRIED TO FINISH THIS BUNKER.
  • 10:29 BUT ONLY 200 METERS OF THE OUTER SHELL WAS FINISHED AT THE END.
  • 10:33 AND SO NOTHING COULD BE BUILT INSIDE OF THE BUNKER.
  • 10:38 SO THESE 15,000 PEOPLE DIED WORKING ON A BUNKER
  • 10:40 THAT WAS NEVER COMPLETED AND NEVER USED?
  • 10:42 CORRECT, NEVER USED, NEVER COMPLETED
  • 10:45 BECAUSE THE AMERICAN FORCES CAME HERE
  • 10:47 ON THE 28TH OF APRIL 1945 ALREADY.
  • 10:52 AT THAT TIME THAT AREA WAS ALREADY EMPTIED
  • 10:56 FROM ANY ENGINES AND FROM ANY PEOPLE.
  • 11:00 THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN SENT TO THE DEATH MARCH.
  • 11:10 SHALOM FROM JERUSALEM.
  • 11:12 ACTUALLY WE'RE IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE.
  • 11:15 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OLIVE TREES JEFF,
  • 11:17 OUR PEOPLE ARE BEHIND,
  • 11:18 THEY'RE LISTENING TO OUR GUIDE ZVI TALK
  • 11:20 AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO A BIBLE STUDY.
  • 11:22 AND THEY ARE HAVING A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
  • 11:24 IF YOU FEEL THE LORD BECKONING YOU
  • 11:26 AND MYSTERIOUS IS THE BECKONING
  • 11:28 THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWING BELIEVERS TO THIS LAND FOR MILLENNIA,
  • 11:31 DO JOIN US PLEASE FOR A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
  • 11:34 SANDRA AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE BLESSED.
  • 11:37 FOR YOUR FREE BROCHURE ON OUR NEXT TOUR CALL:
  • 11:42 AND WHEN YOU GO TO ISRAEL WITH US YOU'RE GONNA SEE MANY ARABS AND MANY MUSLIMS THERE.
  • 11:50 WHICH REMINDS ME THAT NOT ALL ARABS AND MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS AND ARE RADICAL AND HATE THE JEWS.
  • 11:58 MY PROBLEM, HOWEVER, IS THAT I REALIZE THAT NOT ALL THE GERMANS WERE RABID NAZIS EITHER.
  • 12:06 BUT WHAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE THE PASSIVE IN THE MIDDLE
  • 12:09 THAT ARE DRIVEN ALONG BY A RADICAL AGENDA.
  • 12:12 AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THE GOOD AND MODERATE MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD WILL BE SWEPT UP IN FORCES BEYOND THEIR CONTROL.
  • 12:21 WOW! I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT.
  • 12:23 I THINK FOR ME COMING TO ISRAEL SHOWS LIFE AGAIN.
  • 12:27 THEY SAW SO MUCH DEATH IN THOSE WORK CAMPS,
  • 12:30 WITH THE PROMISE "WORK MAKES YOU FREE"
  • 12:34 BUT NOW THEY REALLY ARE FREE WHEN THEY'RE ISRAEL.
  • 12:36 YES AND WE WANTED TO COME THERE
  • 12:38 AND BUILD A BETTER WORLD FOR JEWS AND EVERYBODY. >>RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY
  • 12:41 THAT INCLUDES ARABS THAT WANT TO BE FRIENDS IN THE REGION. >>ABSOLUTELY
  • 12:43 AND MUSLIMS, I MEAN WHEN JERUSALEM CAME INTO THE JEWISH FOLD
  • 12:47 THE TEMPLE MOUNT WAS KEPT IN ISLAMIC CUSTODY
  • 12:52 IN ORDER TO SERVICE THE RELIGIOUS INTERESTS OF ISLAMIC PEOPLE.
  • 12:55 THAT'S TRUE AND ALL THE ARABS THAT LIVE IN ISRAEL ARE ARAB ISRAELIS.
  • 12:58 THEY ARE ISRAELI CITIZENS.
  • 12:59 YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT ANY ARAB COUNTRIES.
  • 13:01 RIGHT AND WE DON'T LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD
  • 13:03 BUT IT SEEMS THAT IN ISRAEL PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BE JUST FOR ALL PEOPLE.
  • 13:07 I AGREE.
  • 13:08 I INTERVIEWED ABBA NOAR,
  • 13:09 HE IS A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR JEFF AND PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS MAN.
  • 13:13 HERE'S THIS INTERVIEW.
  • 13:16 I WAS BORN IN LITHUANIA.
  • 13:18 WE WERE A FAMILY OF FIVE,
  • 13:21 THREE BROTHERS, FATHER AND MOTHER.
  • 13:24 AND WE WERE TAKEN TO GERMANY TO STUTTHOF.
  • 13:28 THERE WAS A BIG DEATH CAMP, STUTTHOF, NEAR DANZIG.
  • 13:31 WE WERE STILL, MY FATHER, MY MOTHER,
  • 13:34 AND MYSELF AND MY LITTLE BROTHER, WE WERE THERE.
  • 13:36 THEN THEY ARRIVED THERE.
  • 13:38 AND THEN THEY SEPARATED THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN ONE CAMP
  • 13:40 AND WE IN THE OTHER CAMP MYSELF AND MY FATHER.
  • 13:43 BUT THEY SAID "DON'T WORRY"
  • 13:45 "ON THE WEEKENDS YOUR GOING TO MEET"
  • 13:47 "AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE SMALL CHILDREN"
  • 13:49 WELL, WE BELIEVED THE STORIES,
  • 13:51 OR WE KNEW THEY WERE JUST STORIES TO KEEP US QUIET.
  • 13:56 IN THE BEGINNING I WAS TOGETHER WITH MY FATHER IN THE CAMP FROM THE MEN.
  • 14:02 BUT AFTER 10 DAYS OR SO
  • 14:04 MY FATHER WAS TAKEN OUT OF STUTTHOF
  • 14:07 AND HE WAS BROUGHT TO ONE OF THE OUTER CAMPS OF DACHAU.
  • 14:10 AND I STILL REMAINED THERE.
  • 14:13 THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE TAKEN TO AUSCHWITZ ON THE 26TH OF JULY 1944.
  • 14:18 I STILL REMAINED IN STUTTHOF BUT NOT VERY LONG.
  • 14:23 I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE LAST GROUP OF PEOPLE TAKEN OUT FROM STUTTHOF
  • 14:29 BECAUSE ALL THE OTHERS WERE KILLED LATER ON.
  • 14:32 BECAUSE THEY WERE CRIPPLES,
  • 14:33 THEY WERE SMALL CHILDREN, AND SMALLER CHILDREN,
  • 14:36 OLD PEOPLE, THOSE WHO COULDN'T WORK ANYMORE.
  • 14:38 AND WE WERE TAKEN BY TRAIN,
  • 14:40 I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY DAYS AND NIGHTS IT TOOK.
  • 14:44 IN THE BEGINNING I WAS IN A CAMP CALLED "UTTING".
  • 14:50 THIS IS DEEP IN BAVARIA.
  • 14:52 THERE WAS NO CAMP,
  • 14:53 THERE WAS NOTHING THERE,
  • 14:55 THERE WAS JUST A FOREST THERE.
  • 14:56 WE HAD TO BUILD OUR CAMP FOR OURSELVES.
  • 14:58 AND THOSE UNDERGROUND BARRACKS YOU KNOW
  • 15:01 AND WE HAD TO BUILD A FACTORY
  • 15:06 FOR CONCRETE PARTS TO BE SENT TO LANDSBERG
  • 15:09 WHERE THEY BUILT THIS UNDERGROUND FACTORY.
  • 15:12 I WAS THERE TILL END OF THE YEAR.
  • 15:17 AND THEN THEY WERE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE FOR LANDSBERG.
  • 15:22 AND I VOLUNTEERED AND I CAME TO LANDSBERG
  • 15:25 BUT I DIDN'T FIND MY FATHER
  • 15:27 HE WAS IN OUTER CAMP.
  • 15:28 AND LANDSBERG WAS THE HELL.
  • 15:30 IT WAS A TERRIBLE CAMP.
  • 15:31 ANY SLAVE THAT COULD BE BROUGHT TO THIS BUNKERS
  • 15:35 FROM ALL THE SURVIVORS FROM AUSCHWITZ AND OTHER CAMPS
  • 15:41 WERE BROUGHT FROM LITHUANIA,
  • 15:43 WERE BROUGHT TO THIS AREA TO LANDSBERG
  • 15:46 WHERE THEY HAD SO MANY OUTER CAMPS OF DACHAU.
  • 15:49 THAT BELONGED TO DACHAU
  • 15:50 BUT NEVER LIVED IN DACHAU.
  • 15:52 THERE WAS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING A PRISONER IN DACHAU
  • 15:55 AND BEING A PRISONER IN ONE OF THOSE WHAT THEY CALLED LABOR CAMPS.
  • 16:00 BECAUSE THOSE LABOR CAMPS WERE DEATH CAMPS.
  • 16:03 YOU COULDN'T SURVIVE MORE THAN 5, 6, 7 MONTHS.
  • 16:07 A MATTER OF FACT, SOME PEOPLE DID SURVIVE.HOW?
  • 16:10 WELL, IN THE BEGINNING I HAD A GOOD JOB,
  • 16:13 MYSELF AND THREE OTHER FRIENDS OF MINE.
  • 16:16 WE WERE WORKING AS HORSES.
  • 16:19 HORSES? >>YEAH.
  • 16:20 THEY USED YOU LIKE HORSES? >>YEAH WE WERE THE HORSES. (LAUGHING)
  • 16:23 WE WERE GOING TO THE VILLAGE TO TAKE FOOD FOR THE SS,
  • 16:26 AND WE FOUND THERE THAT WHAT THERE WAS...
  • 16:29 ...THERE WERE PIGS THERE
  • 16:32 AND WE SAW THAT THE PIGS ARE GETTING SOME POTATOES, BOILED POTATOES.
  • 16:38 AND WE THOUGHT TO OURSELVES, "WHY THE PIGS AND NOT WE?"
  • 16:42 AND SO WE WERE STEALING THE POTATOES FROM THE PIGS.
  • 16:50 AND WE HAD SHOES FROM WOOD,
  • 16:52 MADE OUT OF WOOD WITHOUT STOCKINGS.
  • 16:54 AND WE HAD TO WALK KILOMETERS TO WORK AND BACK WHICH MADE YOU...
  • 16:58 KILLED YOU ACTUALLY.
  • 17:00 MADE YOUR WOUNDS ON YOUR LEGS
  • 17:03 AND THE LICE WERE ONLY WAITING FOR IT.
  • 17:06 SO PART OF THE TORTURING WAS BEFORE YOU WENT TO WORK.
  • 17:11 THIS IS WHEN IT STARTED
  • 17:13 AND THEN YOU HAD TO WALK 5, 6, 7 KILOMETERS.
  • 17:17 AND THOSE WHO COULDN'T WALK WERE BEATEN UP
  • 17:20 AND THEN WALK 12 HOURS A DAY WITHOUT FOOD, NOTHING.
  • 17:25 WE GOT FOOD ONLY WHEN WE CAME BACK.
  • 17:28 AND WHEN WE CAME BACK TO THE CAMP
  • 17:29 THERE WAS ANOTHER TORTURE,
  • 17:31 LISTENING TO MUSIC.
  • 17:33 WE HAD TO STAND ON THE SQUARE FOR AN HOUR OR SO
  • 17:35 AND THEY WERE PLAYING FOR US BEETHOVEN.
  • 17:38 AND THEN WE WENT BACK TO OUR BARRACKS
  • 17:41 AND GOT SOUP AND A SLICE OF BREAD.
  • 17:44 THIS IS WHAT THE FOOD THAT WE GOT.
  • 17:46 SO HOW CAN YOU SURVIVE?
  • 17:50 DURING ABOUT SIX, SEVEN MONTHS,
  • 17:52 14,000 PEOPLE DIED.
  • 17:55 THE HALF, EVERY SECOND PERSON DIED IN THIS CAMP.
  • 17:59 THIS IS A WORK CAMP.
  • 18:01 THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL "THE WORK CAMP". >>"THE WORK CAMP"
  • 18:03 YEAH, WE CALLED IT A "DEATH CAMP".
  • 18:24 (Jeff speaking) ABBA NOAR WAS ONE OF FEW SURVIVORS OF THE CAMP ASSIGNED TO BUILD THE SECRET BUNKERS.
  • 18:30 ALTHOUGH NEVER COMPLETED BY THE NAZIS,
  • 18:33 THE AREA WAS LATER DEVELOPED BY THE UNITED STATES AFTER WORLD WAR II.
  • 18:38 LET'S HEAR MORE FROM WILL KING AND COMMANDER ODINIOUS.
  • 18:44 IN THE 60'S OF THE LAST CENTURY
  • 18:47 THE AMERICAN FORCES ASKED TO REBUILD THIS BUNKER
  • 18:50 TO HOUSE THE MATADOR MISSILE SYSTEM IN THE BUNKER.
  • 18:55 WHAT IS THE BUNKER USED FOR TODAY?
  • 18:57 TODAY THE BUNKER WAS USED THE LAST YEARS FOR A MAINTENANCE UNIT,
  • 19:01 FOR A STORAGE AREA AND FOR A VERY IMPORTANT UNIT
  • 19:05 WHICH IS THE PROGRAMMING CENTER OF THE GERMAN AIR FORCE
  • 19:08 FOR AIR BORNE WEAPON SYSTEMS.
  • 19:09 AND THEREFORE, YOU SEE A NAVY COMMANDER HERE
  • 19:12 BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPORTING THE AIR FORCE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
  • 19:16 AND YOU SAID THE BUNKER'S BEEN REBUILT IN THE 60'S.
  • 19:19 OF THE ORIGINAL BUNKER WHAT CAN WE STILL SEE TODAY?
  • 19:21 OF THE ORIGINAL BUNKER YOU CAN ONLY SEE PARTS OF THE OUTER HOLE.
  • 19:25 WHEN WE GO TO THE END OF OUR NEW BUNKER
  • 19:30 THERE IS A LITTLE GAP WHERE WE CAN LOOK INTO
  • 19:32 AND THERE WE ARE STANDING ACTUALLY AT THESE 18 METERS THICK CONCRETE WALL
  • 19:38 AND WE CAN SEE THAT THE OLD BUNKER IS OUTSIDE OF THE NEW BUNKER
  • 19:44 AND HAS NO WHATSOEVER CONNECTIONS TO THE INSIDE.
  • 19:49 AND WE ARE NOW AT A LITTLE TYPE OF MUSEUM THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
  • 19:52 HOW DID THIS MUSEUM ITSELF COME ABOUT?
  • 19:55 WELL, THE INSIDE OF THIS EXHIBITION HERE ON THE RED PANELS
  • 19:59 THAT WAS COLLECTED BY A STAFF SERGEANT ALREADY IN 1978
  • 20:05 AND THE OUTSIDE ON THE BLUE PANELS,
  • 20:07 THAT WAS SET UP TOGETHER WITH STUDENTS FROM THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL
  • 20:13 AND THEY HAD A HISTORY PROJECT
  • 20:16 BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING TO A SURVIVOR OF THE HOLOCAUST
  • 20:20 AND HE COMPLAINED THAT HE COULDN'T FIND IN THIS AREA
  • 20:23 THIS OUT CAMP OF DACHAU
  • 20:25 WHERE HE USED TO BE WITH THE NUMBER ELEVEN.
  • 20:28 AND THAT WAS THEN TAKEN AS A TASK OR THOSE STUDENTS,
  • 20:32 "WE FIND THIS OUT CAMP."
  • 20:35 AND THAT IS WHAT WE SEE HERE.
  • 20:38 AND YOU HAD A STORY YOU WERE TELLING US EARLIER
  • 20:40 ABOUT WHEN THE CAMPS THEMSELVES WERE LIBERATED IN THIS AREA.
  • 20:42 YES, COLONEL ZIELER CAME HERE FROM THE AMERICAN FORCES
  • 20:46 AND HE ASKED ALL THE LANDSBERG CITIZENS
  • 20:49 TO COME FORWARD TO CLEAN UP THE VARIOUS OUT CAMPS.
  • 20:54 AND ONE PARTICULAR OUT CAMP WAS...
  • 20:56 AND IT WAS CALLED KAUFERING 4.
  • 21:00 AND I CAN SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES WHAT HAPPENED IN KAUFERING 4
  • 21:06 AND HOW THE PEOPLE OF LANDSBERG AND THE AREA
  • 21:08 WERE THEN CONFRONTED WITH THAT WHAT THE AMERICAN OFFICERS SAW.
  • 21:16 WELL THE FIRST 20 YEARS, EVEN 30 YEARS
  • 21:19 THE PEOPLE OF LANDSBERG FELT SO ASHAMED OF IT,
  • 21:22 WHAT HAPPENED IN THEIR AREA ON THEIR SOIL
  • 21:25 AND NOT FAR IN THE EAST WHERE NORMALLY THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS WERE.
  • 21:30 BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
  • 21:32 THEY REALLY REJECTED ASKED QUESTIONS
  • 21:36 AND SO THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
  • 21:38 AND AT THE END OF THE 70'S AND THE BEGINNING OF THE 80'S
  • 21:42 THEY STARTED THEN AND THEY ALLOWED
  • 21:44 SOME JOURNALISTS TO ASK QUESTIONS
  • 21:47 AND SOME HISTORIANS CAME HERE
  • 21:49 AND THEY TRIED TO DIG OUT FROM THIS SILENCE THE TRUTH.
  • 21:55 WE ARE NOT LONGER SILENT HERE IN THIS AREA
  • 21:58 AND I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 100 TO 120 GROUPS OF PEOPLE
  • 22:04 FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND FROM MORE DISTANT AREAS
  • 22:08 WHO COME HERE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING, LISTENING TO THIS
  • 22:14 AND THEY ARE REALLY INTERESTED.
  • 22:17 AND THEY CAN HARDLY BELIEVE WHAT THEY CAN SEE ON THE PICTURES BEHIND ME.
  • 22:31 (Zola speaking with music in background)
  • 22:34 THE WORLD FULL OF MADNESS,
  • 22:37 ANGER AND HATE
  • 22:40 INJUSTICE AND SADNESS
  • 22:42 HEARTACHE AND PAIN.
  • 22:46 YOUR PEOPLE ARE CALLING
  • 22:49 GOD IS OUR SHIELD
  • 22:52 HOW WE ARE SUFFERING
  • 22:55 WON'T YOU DRAW NEAR?
  • 23:03 BROKEN THINGS
  • 23:06 BROKEN PEOPLE
  • 23:10 FALLING TEARS IN A FALLEN WORLD
  • 23:15 HURTING HEARTS NEED HANDS TO HOLD THEM
  • 23:23 COMFORT, HEAL US WITH YOUR WORD.
  • 23:31 I'LL CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU
  • 23:35 ISRAEL MY OWN
  • 23:37 IN RIGHTEOUS AND HOLY JUDGMENT I REIGN
  • 23:42 MY PEOPLE, I WATCH YOU
  • 23:47 DON'T BE AFRAID.
  • 23:50 THERE IS PUNISHMENT WAITING
  • 23:53 FOR THOSE YOU FEAR.
  • 24:00 HEALING THINGS
  • 24:05 HEALING PEOPLE
  • 24:08 A RISING HOPE
  • 24:11 THROUGH THE RISEN ONE
  • 24:15 MENDING HEARTS
  • 24:18 MY HANDS WILL HEAL THEM
  • 24:22 THIS MY PROMISE FOR EVERMORE.
  • 24:37 I'D LIKE TO READ A POEM TO YOU.
  • 24:39 IT'S WRITTEN BY A CHILD.
  • 24:40 A CHILD WROTE THIS POEM KNOWING HIS IMPENDING DEATH JEFF.
  • 24:43 IT'S FROM THE BOOK "I NEVER SAW ANOTHER BUTTERFLY"
  • 24:46 AND THE NAME OF THE POEM IS "THE GARDEN".
  • 24:48 "A LITTLE GARDEN FRAGRANT AND FULL OF ROSES"
  • 24:51 "THE PATH IS NARROW AND A LITTLE BOY WALKS ALONG IT."
  • 24:54 "A LITTLE BOY, A SWEET BOY, LIKE THAT GROWING BLOSSOM."
  • 24:58 "WHEN THE BLOSSOM COMES TO BLOOM THE LITTLE BOY WILL BE NO MORE."
  • 25:02 HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE.
  • 25:04 THAT'S HORRIBLE.
  • 25:06 LITTLE BOYS SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT BASEBALL,
  • 25:07 AND BIGGER BOYS SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT GIRLS. >>RIGHT
  • 25:09 BUT HERE A LITTLE BOY IS THINKING THAT HIS LIFE ENDS WHEN THE FLOWER BLOOMS.
  • 25:14 AND THIS IS THE ONLY EXPRESSION HE HAD,
  • 25:16 WAS TO WRITE ABOUT THE PAIN THAT HE WAS FEELING.
  • 25:18 TRAGIC IT IS WHEN THIS DARK CLOUD DESCENDED UPON ONCE CHRISTIAN EUROPE.
  • 25:25 THE THING THAT SCARES ME TODAY FRANKLY
  • 25:28 IS THAT RANDOM ACTS OF TERRORISM CAN CAUSE A STIR AND THEN THINGS SETTLE DOWN.
  • 25:34 BUT HEAR THE POWER OF STATE WAS MOBILIZED
  • 25:39 FOR THE MANUFACTURER OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF PEOPLE.
  • 25:42 MY CONCERN IS THAT AS AN ISLAMIC STATE ADVANCES,
  • 25:47 TAKE IRAN AND OTHERS,
  • 25:49 IF THAT ADVANCES PEOPLE GET CRUSHED WITHIN THE GEARS.
  • 25:53 WE DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT BUT WE AVOID IT.
  • 25:56 OH, I WOULDN'T WANT MY CHILDREN AND OTHERS TO HAVE TO WRITE POEMS LIKE THIS.
  • 26:00 NO, WE'VE BECOME SO POLITICALLY CORRECT.
  • 26:03 IT'S NOT RIGHT TO STAND UP AND SAY,
  • 26:05 "THIS IS WRONG YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THESE LANDS."
  • 26:08 "THIS IS WRONG THAT YOU PUT PEOPLE TO DEATH."
  • 26:10 "THIS IS WRONG."
  • 26:11 WE CAN'T EVER FORGET THIS.
  • 26:13 THAT'S RIGHT. >>THIS IS A CHILD.
  • 26:15 I DON'T WANT AN ALIEN AGENDA TAKING OVER JUDEO-CHRISTIAN CULTURE. >>RIGHT
  • 26:22 I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WERE GERMANS BACK THEN,
  • 26:25 THEY DIDN'T WANT A NAZI AGENDA TO TAKE OVER.
  • 26:30 BUT IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO JUST HAVE SENTIMENT.
  • 26:33 PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP.
  • 26:36 THAT'S WHY I LIKE THIS CHURCH IN TUBINGEN THAT'S MARCHING AND ACTING.
  • 26:40 BOY, I AGREE.
  • 26:41 STAY TUNED AND
  • 26:43 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
  • 26:45 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
  • 26:49 OUR OFFER ON THIS PROGRAM;

Episodes in this series

  1. When Darkness Once Prevailed
  2. Out of the Darkness
  3. Dark Night of the Soul
  4. Bright Lights in a Darkened World
  5. The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us
  6. Letting the Sun Shine
  7. A Star That Breaks Through the Darkness
  8. Heavenly Light From Hellish Darkness

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