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Episode: “A License to Kill” with Walid Shoebat
Our cameras go behind locked doors in an Israeli high-security prison to interview convicted terrorists. Watching the footage in the studio, Walid Shoebat provides commentary and rebuttal to the prisoners who claim they have every right to kill innocent Israelis who “occupy their land.”
Series: “Revelation”
It grows more and more difficult to make programs on End Times prophecy. Events threaten to overtake the relatively slower speed of television production. This series will provide a real “revelation” to those who want to be informed about the onward march of Islam and the oncoming Tribulation Period. Zola’s guests are ex-Palestinian terrorists Ibrahim Abdullah and Walid Shoebat.

Caption transcript for Revelation: “A License to Kill” with Walid Shoebat (4/6)

  • 00:39 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:41 THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL PROGRAM.
  • 00:43 WALID SHOEBAT IS BACK WITH US.
  • 00:45 HE'S A CONVERTED PALESTINIAN TERRORIST.
  • 00:49 HE ONCE CARRIED A BOMB AND NOW HE'S COME TO THE LORD
  • 00:52 AND HE'S HERE TO, IN A KIND OF SPECIAL MINISTRY TODAY.
  • 00:57 WE SENT KEN BERG, OUR PRODUCER OVER TO ISRAEL AND HE VISITED A MILITARY PRISON
  • 01:03 AND HE INTERVIEWED PALESTINIAN PRISONERS.
  • 01:07 NOW, THESE ARE GUYS THAT GOT CAUGHT AND HAVE DONE CRIMES
  • 01:11 AND IN SOME CASES HAVE ARRANGED FOR PEOPLE TO BE KILLED, IF NOT KILLED THEM THEMSELVES.
  • 01:16 KEN GAVE THEM A CHANCE TO AIR WHATEVER GRIEVANCES THEY HAVE,
  • 01:20 TO SPEAK FREELY AS IS ALWAYS OUR POLICY AND THEN WALID, WHO WAS THERE,
  • 01:26 I MEAN HE WAS A TERRORIST, HE'S BEEN THERE,
  • 01:28 HE KNOWS THIS SUBJECT AND HE'S GOING TO COMMENT ON EACH PRISONER'S TALK.
  • 01:34 SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUR LOCATION, WHICH IS A PRISON NEAR BEERSHEBA, ISRAEL.
  • 01:39 THE PRISON HERE AT BEERSHEBA IS SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE AL HADIM KADAR PRISON,
  • 01:45 THE TENTS OF KADAR, BECAUSE IT WAS IN THIS REGION
  • 01:49 THAT ABRAHAM PITCHED HIS TENTS SOME 3900 YEARS AGO.
  • 01:53 THE IMMENSE STRUCTURE IS SURROUNDED BY HEAVILY FORTIFIED WALLS,
  • 01:57 WATCHTOWERS AN ELECTRIC FENCE, BARBED WIRE AND WATCH DOGS.
  • 02:01 THERE ARE ABOUT 2000 PRISONERS HERE, OF WHICH 1500 ARE CONVICTED TERRORIST.
  • 02:06 THE FIRST PRISONER KEN TALKED TO WAS RAID ABU HOMMUS.
  • 02:11 I WAS A MEMBER OF FATAH MOVEMENT AND WHEN INTIFADAS STARTS,
  • 02:17 WE HAD TO CALL THAT WE FIGHT AGAINST THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION IF IT GETS TO THE CITIES,
  • 02:24 PALESTINIAN CITIES AND WHAT HAPPENED IN 2002,
  • 02:29 ALL THE PALESTINIANS SHARED IN THE STRUGGLE, IT WAS A WAR
  • 02:34 AND WE WERE CAUGHT LATER AFTER WE GET IN THE CITY AND I'M JUDGED TO BE HERE FOR 10 YEARS.
  • 02:44 (KEN) WHAT DID THEY CATCH YOU ACTUALLY DOING?
  • 02:47 WHEN THEY CAUGHT ME I WAS NOTHING, I WAS IN A FRIEND'S HOUSE.
  • 02:51 (KEN) YOU WERE CONVICTED OF SOMETHING.
  • 02:55 YEAH, I'M CONVICTED ABOUT BEING A MEMBER IN FATAH MOVEMENT
  • 02:59 AND IN THE MILITARY WING FOR FATAH MOVEMENTS.
  • 03:02 IT'S CALLED (ARABIC)
  • 03:04 AND I HAVE ACTIVITIES LIKE SHOOTING AT ISRAELI TANKS WHEN IT GOT TO OUR LAND.
  • 03:12 I HAVE ACTIVITY TO BE A MEMBER IN THIS MILITARY WING AND ABOUT HAVING WEAPONS.
  • 03:18 WALID, HIS FIRST JUSTIFICATION FOR ALL THAT HE DOES IS THE OCCUPATION.
  • 03:26 TO ME THAT'S A RED HERRING.
  • 03:29 THERE'S NO OCCUPATION.
  • 03:31 I THINK THE REAL OCCUPATION WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING ZOLA,
  • 03:33 IS THE OCCUPATION OF THE MINDS OF CHILDREN.
  • 03:36 WHAT IS OCCUPYING THIS CHILD'S MIND TO GO AND WANT TO KILL JEWS, LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTER
  • 03:42 FOR NO OTHER REASON, JUST BECAUSE HE LEARNED IT IN SCHOOL
  • 03:46 OR HIS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM TAUGHT HIM THAT.
  • 03:48 SECOND OF ALL, ISRAEL IS NOT AN OCCUPATION.
  • 03:51 ISRAEL ACTUALLY LIBERATED THAT LAND FROM KING HUSSEIN.
  • 03:54 THE JORDANIANS OCCUPIED IT ILLEGALLY.
  • 03:57 ONLY 2 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED THAT OCCUPATION, WHICH WAS PAKISTAN AND GREAT BRITAIN
  • 04:02 AND THE WORLD COMMUNITY REJECTED THE OCCUPATION OF JORDAN OF THAT AREA.
  • 04:07 THE ISRAELIS, IN REALITY, LIBERATED THAT LAND,
  • 04:10 IN 1967, >>IN 1967
  • 04:11 AND I WAS THERE WHEN 5 ARAB ARMIES ATTACKED ISRAEL,
  • 04:15 WANTED TO DESTROY ISRAEL FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
  • 04:17 SO, IN REALITY IT WAS A LIBERATION AND THIS IS JUST A PLAY ON TERMINOLOGY.
  • 04:21 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FROM EONS OF TIME.
  • 04:23 AND THE FUNNY PART IS IN THE WHOLE WORLD, EVERYBODY IS OCCUPYING THE LAND THEY'RE IN.
  • 04:30 I MEAN, WE WHITE EUROPEANS ARE OCCUPYING THIS NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT,
  • 04:34 WE WEREN'T MADE HERE, WE CAME HERE.
  • 04:36 SO, IT IS EVERYWHERE EXCEPT ISRAEL, WHICH HAS A GRANT FOR ITS LAND
  • 04:41 AND HAS BEEN IN IT FOR 4000 YEARS.
  • 04:44 AND YOU HEAR THAT 40 YEARS OF OCCUPATION, IMAGINE 40 YEARS OF OCCUPATION,
  • 04:48 WELL THE AMERICAN INDIAN WOULD SAY, 200 YEARS OF OCCUPATIONS.
  • 04:52 THE MEXICANS WOULD SAY, SPANIARDS OCCUPIED THEIR COUNTRY AND YOU CAN GO ON,
  • 04:57 LET'S LIBERATE AUSTRALIA, YOU GIVE IT BACK TO THE ABORIGINES.
  • 05:01 IN REALITY, ZOLA, IT'S THE REVERSE.
  • 05:04 THE JEWS ARE THE REAL INDIANS, THEY'RE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THAT LAND
  • 05:08 FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS HAVE NEVER LOST A CONNECTION TO THAT LAND.
  • 05:12 THERE ARE FAMILIES THAT CLAIM TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
  • 05:16 EVERYBODY IN MY CLASS, WE KNEW WHO THEIR FAMILIES NAME WERE,
  • 05:18 "MY NAME IS MITRIBOULUS AND I AM FROM GREECE ORIGINALLY."
  • 05:22 "MY NAME IS ASHRAWI, IT'S EGYPTIAN."
  • 05:25 "MY NAME IS MUHABRI FROM MOROCCO."
  • 05:27 EVERYBODY KNEW THEIR RECENT ORIGIN FROM THE EARLY 1800S
  • 05:31 WHO CAME TO THAT LAND FROM THE ARABIC SIDE WHO CLAIM TO BE ARABS.
  • 05:34 IT'S A MIXTURE OF PEOPLE, GREEKS, EGYPTIANS, BOSNIANS, YOU NAME IT.
  • 05:40 YEAH, THE STORY THEY TELL IS SOME MONOLITHIC PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
  • 05:45 HANAN ASHRAWI LOOKED ME RIGHT IN THE EYE
  • 05:47 AND SAID WE'VE BEEN HERE THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
  • 05:50 AND I SAID, HAVE YOU?
  • 05:52 I SAID, WELL WHAT ABOUT THE JEWS?
  • 05:54 SHE SAID, THEY COME, THEY GO.
  • 05:56 IT'S QUITE THE REVERSE.
  • 05:58 YOU KNOW THE BEST WAY TO REFUTE THIS WHOLE NOTION, THEY SAY WE ARE THE PHILISTINES.
  • 06:01 WE ARE CANAANITES.
  • 06:03 WELL, CANAAN IS THE SON OF HAM AND WE CLAIM TO BE ARABS OF THE SEMITIC ORIGIN.
  • 06:09 SO, HOW DO WE TRACE OURSELVES BACK ALL THE WAY TO NOAH
  • 06:13 BEING OF A HAMITIC AND A SEMITIC RACE AT THE SAME TIME?
  • 06:16 YOU KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT SCRIPTURE, WALID.
  • 06:18 YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 06:20 I MEAN EVERYTHING, THIS WHOLE THING IS FOUNDED ON A HOUSE OF CARDS
  • 06:24 AND THEY ARE KILLING REAL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
  • 06:27 THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 06:28 WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO THE FOOTAGE.
  • 06:30 KEN THEN ASKED THE PRISONER IF ABBAS IS LEADING THE PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY THAN ARAFAT DID.
  • 06:38 WE'LL GO BACK TO BEERSHEBA NOW.
  • 06:40 AS WE ALL KNOW, PRESIDENT YASSER ARAFAT IS THE LEADER FOR ALL PALESTINIAN
  • 06:48 AND HE'S A BIG LEADER.
  • 06:50 HE'S SOMETHING LIKE A PART OF US AND WHAT HAPPENED FROM THE AMERICANS AND THE ISRAELIS
  • 06:55 THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE IN, THAT'S ALL.
  • 06:58 THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT AMERICAS SAYS, IT GOES IN THE WORLD.
  • 07:04 SO, THEY WANT HIM TO BE ISOLATED AND SO THEY ISOLATED HIM AND THEY STARTED TO--
  • 07:10 (KEN) DO YOU THINK THE AMERICANS HAVE AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE?
  • 07:14 NO.
  • 07:15 WE WISH THAT WE COULD MAKE A CONNECTION BETWEEN US AND THE YOUTH IN AMERICA
  • 07:24 AND MOVEMENTS FOR PEACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COME
  • 07:27 AND SEE HERE WHAT'S GOING ON IN PRISONS AND PALESTINE, ALSO.
  • 07:33 WE DON'T THINK THAT ALL AMERICANS KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE.
  • 07:37 RAID IS RIGHT.
  • 07:40 THANKS TO THE LIBERAL MEDIA,
  • 07:42 AMERICANS DO NOT HAVE AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF ISRAELI PRISONS.
  • 07:46 THIS IS THE ACCURATE PICTURE, A LARGE COMFORTABLE CELL
  • 07:49 IN WHICH EACH INMATE HAS HIS OWN PERSONAL LIBRARY.
  • 07:52 THIS CELL HOLDS 6 INMATES WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN GROCERIES,
  • 07:56 WHICH THEY CAN PREPARE ON THEIR OWN HOTPLATE, WHILE WATCHING A TV WITH 6 STATIONS.
  • 08:02 THEY HAVE A PRIVATE TOILET, AS WELL AS A PRIVATE SHOWER.
  • 08:05 IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, RAID AND FELLOW INMATES HAVE EXERCISE BREAKS
  • 08:10 WHERE THEY CAN PLAY PING PONG OR BASKETBALL,
  • 08:12 FOLLOWED OF COURSE BY A HOT MEAL SERVED WITHIN CONFINES OF THEIR OWN CLIMATE-CONTROLLED CELL.
  • 08:21 WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A CHANCE FOR PEACE TO BE BETWEEN PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS.
  • 08:27 FATAH MOVEMENT AND THE MEMBERS OF FATAH MOVEMENT HERE IN JAILS ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PRESSURE
  • 08:35 OUTSIDE IN THE PALESTINIAN STREETS AND THEY ALL BELIEVE IN PRESIDENT ABU MAZEN
  • 08:42 AND THEY WANT TO WORK WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S THE LEADER AND HE'S WORKING IN THE GOOD PATH
  • 08:48 AND SOMETIMES WE SEND PROGRAMS TO MR. ABU MAZEN
  • 08:55 ABOUT WHAT WE SEE FOR THE FUTURE OF PALESTINE,
  • 08:58 WHAT WE SEE BETWEEN THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE ORGANIZATIONS FATAH,
  • 09:01 HAMAS AND OTHER THINGS, HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.
  • 09:05 I DON'T BELIEVE IN GETTING THE RELIGION IN OUR LIFE HERE.
  • 09:08 THERE'S MUSLIMS, THERE'S ISRAELIS, THERE'S CHRISTIANS
  • 09:11 AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS KIND OF PEOPLE.
  • 09:15 SO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A USE TO USE RELIGION IN THE WAY AND IN THE AUTHORITY.
  • 09:22 SO, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN THE RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT.
  • 09:27 WALID, HE MAKES A POINT OF SAYING RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT,
  • 09:32 YET WE, I MEAN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBER AND THE IMAMS AND SO ON, IT IS ALL RELIGIOUS TALK.
  • 09:38 FATAH IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MODERATE SPOKESPERSON
  • 09:42 AND HAMAS IS REALLY THE BAD COP IN THIS CASE.
  • 09:45 BUT, RELIGION IS A MAJOR PART OF IT.
  • 09:47 HE JOINED A GROUP CALLED AL AQSA MARTYR'S BRIGADE
  • 09:51 TO LIBERATE AL AQSA MOSQUE AND IT'S A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.
  • 09:58 RAKIM ASABRE, WHO WAS A PLO, AS WELL, WHO PREACHES THAT THE TEMPLE MOUNT NEVER EXISTED
  • 10:03 AND THIS KIND OF THING AND HERE IS THIS GUY WHO CLAIMS THERE IS NO RELIGION INVOLVED.
  • 10:07 THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY TAUGHT US IN SCHOOL.
  • 10:09 YASSER ARAFAT GOES TO MOSQUES AND TELLS THE WOMEN, WOMEN, GO HOME AND GIVE ME YOUR CHILDREN.
  • 10:13 HE PRAISED (ARABIC NAME) AND THEY STILL PRAISE (ARABIC NAME) AS A SUICIDE BOMBER AS A SHAHID.
  • 10:19 WHERE DOES SHAHID COME FROM ANYWAY?
  • 10:21 IT COMES FROM ISLAMIC DOGMA, TO DIE AS A MARTYR IN ORDER TO GO TO HEAVEN,
  • 10:25 SHAHID MEANS MARTYR,
  • 10:27 IT'S MARTYRDOM AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PLO IS RELIGIOUS.
  • 10:30 IF YASSER ARAFAT WOULD BE PRESCRIBING A RESPONSE TO A PATIENT,
  • 10:36 HE WILL GIVE HIM 90% SHA'RIA, 90% JIHAD USING SHA'RIA AND 90% SECULAR KIND OF DOGMA.
  • 10:46 HAMAS, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS 100% SHA'RIA ON BOTH SIDES.
  • 10:50 LET'S GO BACK TO OUR FOOTAGE, VERY, VERY INTERESTING STUFF.
  • 10:55 I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO COMMENT, WALID.
  • 10:57 THEY THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT AND THEY ARE RIGHT AND WE HAVE OUR TRADITIONS, WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE,
  • 11:06 OUR GRANDFATHERS LIVING HERE ON THIS LAND, IN PALESTINE
  • 11:10 AND AFTER WE GIVE THEM A PART OF IT, WE GIVE THEM A PART OF IT.
  • 11:15 WE KNOW THEY HAVE THE RELATION IN THEM, BUT THEY DON'T OWN IT.
  • 11:19 WE WERE HERE AND AFTER THAT WE GAVE THEM HALF, SO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NEXT HALF?
  • 11:25 (KEN) SOME WOULD SAY, OK THEY GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABRAHAM, THEY SAY THE LAND WAS GIVEN,
  • 11:33 (PRISONER) THE LAND,
  • 11:35 (KEN) BY GOD TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 11:37 THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.
  • 11:41 BUT, WHAT WE BELIEVE AND WHAT WE WERE TAUGHT AND WHAT OUR GRANDFATHERS TOLD US,
  • 11:47 WE BELIEVE IT, THAT'S OUR LAND.
  • 11:50 WE CAME FROM SMALL ISLANDS IN YUNAN AND WE ARE HERE IN PALESTINE.
  • 12:01 (KEN) AND THEY WOULD SAY, OUR GRANDFATHERS WERE HERE ALSO.
  • 12:05 OF COURSE, THEY WOULD SAY IT BECAUSE THEY WANT IT.
  • 12:08 THEY WANT THE LAND.
  • 12:09 THEY CAME, WE KNOW, THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 12:12 THEY HAVE OTHER, THEY HAVE AMERICAN PASSPORTS, THEY HAVE EUROPEAN PASSPORTS.
  • 12:23 THEY'RE NOT REALLY THE REAL ISRAELIS.
  • 12:27 BUT, THEY CAME HERE AND THEY TOOK HALF THE LAND, SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT?
  • 12:31 WE'RE NOT GOING TO THROW THEM IN THE SEA.
  • 12:33 TAKE THE PART THEY WERE IN AND THAT'S WHAT MR. ARAFAT ENDED IN OSLO.
  • 12:41 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STATE OF ISRAEL.
  • 12:43 WE WANT TO LIVE BESIDE IT IN PEACE.
  • 12:46 WHAT ABOUT THE LAND?
  • 12:47 OF COURSE IT'S OURS.
  • 12:49 THAT'S WHAT OUR RELIGION SAYS.
  • 12:51 (KEN) MANY ISRAELIS CLAIM THAT THE HISTORY IS HERE, ARCHAEOLOGY, THEY WOULD SAY,
  • 12:55 (KEN) BIBLE, ETC AND AT THE SAME TIME PALESTINIANS WOULD CLAIM THAT THEY ARE OCCUPIERS.
  • 13:02 (KEN) WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
  • 13:04 I SAY OUR FIRST GRANDFATHER WAS HERE, OUR RELIGION SAYS, OUR RELIGION,
  • 13:09 THE ISLAMIC RELIGION IS THE LAST RELIGION THAT CAME OUT FROM GOD
  • 13:14 AND IT SAYS THAT THERE'S PALESTINIANS AND THERE'S A LAND THAT HAD A PLACES FOR MOSQUES
  • 13:22 AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PLACE FOR PEOPLE, MUSLIM PEOPLE
  • 13:28 AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT AND WE BELIEVE, ALSO WE BELIEVE,
  • 13:32 WE KNOW THERE'S EVEN RELIGIOUS PEOPLE FOR THE JEWISH
  • 13:36 AND WE BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT FOR IT AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.
  • 13:42 JUST TAKE YOUR PART AND GIVE US OUR PART.
  • 13:45 THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM AN EXCUSE TO GET ALL THE LAND, ALL OF PALESTINE'S.
  • 13:51 THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD IN HERE, BUT WHAT WE HAD
  • 13:54 AND WHAT WE LEARNED IN HISTORY AND WHEN FIRST THERE WAS THE BRITISH ARMY HERE
  • 14:02 AND THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND AFTER THE HOLOCAUST AND AFTER WHAT HAPPENED.
  • 14:07 THEY STARTED HERE TO MAKE AN ARMY AND THEY HAD IT, THEY'RE STRONG NOW
  • 14:12 AND WHEN MR. ARAFAT SAID THAT IT'S OK THEY HAVE THE LAND, IT'S OK.
  • 14:17 THEY HAVE HAD LIKE A PART OF IT, NOT ALL OF IT.
  • 14:21 AND WHAT WE LOOK FOR JUST AN INDEPENDENT PALESTINE.
  • 14:24 WELL, WALID, HE'S PRETTY SURE OF HIMSELF.
  • 14:26 WELL, HE'S SAYING AT THE FIRST PART SEGMENT OF HIS INTERVIEW
  • 14:33 HE SAYS THAT HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION AND FATAH ORGANIZATION,
  • 14:36 THE PLO REALLY IS NOT A RELIGION ISLAMIC FANATIC ORGANIZATION.
  • 14:40 NOW HE SAYS THAT THIS LAND IS OURS BECAUSE IT SAYS IT IN THE KORAN,
  • 14:44 IT'S PART OF ISLAMIC RELIGION, PART OF ISLAMIC THEOLOGY.
  • 14:46 IN FACT, NO THEOLOGIAN CAN FIND IN THE KORAN ITSELF,
  • 14:50 ANY REFERENCES OF THE LAND BEING FOR THE ARABS OR THE MUSLIMS AT ALL.
  • 14:54 IN FACT, WHAT YOU FIND IS THE REVERSE IN THE KORAN.
  • 14:56 IN THE KORAN, ALLAH TELLS MOSES (ARABIC)
  • 15:01 ENTER INTO THE LAND, ISRAEL,
  • 15:03 HAT HAS BEEN PROMISED AND DESTINED TO YOU, THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 15:06 SO, IN FACT, THE ARGUMENT IS IN REVERSE.
  • 15:09 SECOND OF ALL, REGARDING THIS OCCUPATION,
  • 15:13 ISLAMICALLY, THE ISLAMIC LEGISLATION, SHA'RIA
  • 15:18 SAYS ANY LAND THAT'S BEEN OCCUPIED BY MUSLIMS SHALL ETERNALLY BE MUSLIM.
  • 15:23 VERY NICE.
  • 15:25 SO IN REALITY, WHAT HE'S SAYING, THIS IS AN ISLAMIC OCCUPATION IN THE PAST
  • 15:29 AND IT MUST REMAIN AN ISLAMIC OCCUPATION.
  • 15:31 IT CAN NEVER BE JEWISH.
  • 15:33 WELL, IN THE COURSE OF WAR, THE AMERICAN ARMY HAS ENTERED, WHAT, JAPAN, KOREA, THE PHILIPPINE,
  • 15:39 OVER IN EUROPE, FRANCE, BELGIUM, GERMANY.
  • 15:42 WHEN THE WAR IS OVER, YOU GO HOME.
  • 15:44 YOU DON'T SAY IT'S MY LAND FOREVER.
  • 15:47 WALID IS VERY CAPABLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, OF COMMENTING ON WHAT'S BEING SAID TO OUR PRODUCER.
  • 15:53 WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
  • 16:26 I SHALL STAND WITHIN THE WONDER OF YOUR WALLS, OH JERUSALEM.
  • 16:31 I SHALL WALK WITHIN THE SPLENDOR OF YOUR GATES,
  • 16:35 BEAUTIFUL FOR SITUATION, THE JOY OF THE WHOLE EARTH.
  • 16:42 SURELY THE LORD HAS BLESSED THEE AND MADE HIS FACE SHINE UPON THEE.
  • 16:48 JOIN ZOLA LEVITT ON HIS NEXT TOUR OF ISRAEL.
  • 16:53 COME TO ZION WITH SONGS AND EVERLASTING JOY.
  • 16:59 COME, WORSHIP IN THE SPLENDOR OF HIS HOLINESS.
  • 17:06 WELL, COME ALONG ON ONE OF OUR TOURS.
  • 17:09 WE WON'T TAKE YOU TO THAT PRISON, MUCH PRETTIER PLACES THAN THAT.
  • 17:12 WALID, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR FOOTAGE,
  • 17:16 THE INTERVIEW WITH THE PRISONERS AND KEN GOES ON.
  • 17:20 THEY WANT TO TALK FROM A RELIGIOUS SIDE.
  • 17:24 OF COURSE, WE HAVE SO MANY IMPORTANT THINGS IN RELIGION,
  • 17:29 ISLAMIC RELIGION THAT POINTS THAT THIS LAND IS OURS.
  • 17:35 (KEN) WHAT ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC AREA THAT THEY CALL THE TEMPLE MOUNT?
  • 17:38 IS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY, THAT THERE WAS IMPORTANT TEMPLES THERE?
  • 17:43 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.
  • 17:45 WELL, HE JUST DOESN'T BELIEVE THERE EVER WAS A TEMPLE.
  • 17:49 YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY HOW THE ARGUMENTS ARE USED IN THE PALESTINIAN PROPAGANDA MEDIA.
  • 17:54 ON ONE HAND, THEY SAY THAT THE STORY OF MOHAMMED'S ASCENSION DURING (ARABIC)
  • 18:00 WHEN HE ASCENDED FROM MECCA TO THE FURTHEST MOSQUE,
  • 18:03 WHICH IS TRANSLATED THESE DAYS AS JERUSALEM.
  • 18:06 IN REALITY, IT WAS IN MEDINA.
  • 18:08 IN THIS ASCENSION, WHEN HE VISITED THE HOLY PLACE IN THE FURTHEST MOSQUE,
  • 18:13 IF IT'S TODAY JERUSALEM, GUESS WHAT, MOHAMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM DESCRIBED THE TEMPLE,
  • 18:18 DESCRIBED THE GATES AND THE WINDOWS
  • 18:20 EVEN THOUGH THERE NO EXISTENCE OF A TEMPLE AT THAT TIME.
  • 18:22 IT SERVES THEIR WISHES THAT IF, ON ONE HAND AND ON THE OTHER HAND IF,
  • 18:29 IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY MIND-BOGGLING HOW THEY INTERPRET THE (ARABIC),
  • 18:33 THE ASCENSION OF MOHAMMED.
  • 18:34 HOW COME NOW HAS HE NOT ASCENDED TO JERUSALEM.
  • 18:39 WE THOUGHT ALL THESE YEARS THAT MOHAMMED ASCENDED TO JERUSALEM AND SAW THE TEMPLE.
  • 18:42 SO, ACCORDING TO MOHAMMED HIMSELF, THE TEMPLES EXISTS.
  • 18:45 IT WAS REALLY THE SMALL TOWN OF MEDINA, RATHER, NEAR MECCA.
  • 18:48 NOW WE TALKED TO A DIFFERENT PRISONER IN THAT SAME JAIL AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT,
  • 18:55 I'M JUST GLAD THEY DIDN'T DECIDE THAT AL QUDS WAS WASHINGTON OR NEW YORK.
  • 19:00 NASSAN N. EL DEER, IS A CONVICTED HAMAS TERRORIST
  • 19:04 SEEN HERE EXERCISING WITH FELLOW PRISONERS.
  • 19:07 THESE ARE TERRORISTS WITH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.
  • 19:10 THEY'VE BEEN PLACE IN A MORE SECURE AREA OF THE PRISON WITH ONLY 2 MEN TO A CELL.
  • 19:15 ALTHOUGH THEY STILL GET TO PLAY PING PONG DAILY AND TO A LESSER DEGREE,
  • 19:19 ARE RECIPIENTS OF THE AMENITIES WE'VE SEEN IN THE LARGER CELL.
  • 19:22 NASSAN IS CONVICTED OF PARTICIPATING IN MILITARY TRAINING AGAINST ISRAEL,
  • 19:27 HOLDING ILLEGAL WEAPON AND COORDINATING THE ATTACK OF A SUICIDE BOMBER.
  • 19:32 FIRST OF ALL, WE TRY TO MAKE MARCH
  • 19:36 AND MAKE OUR STATEMENTS AND AFTER THAT WE DID STONES
  • 19:41 AND AFTER THAT WE TRY TO MAKE OUR VOICE TO REACH TO THE WORLD
  • 19:47 IN THE FIRST INTIFADA AND NOW IN THE SECOND INTIFADA.
  • 19:53 WE TRIED ALL THE POSSIBLE WAYS TO MAKE THEM HEAR US AND FINALLY WE FIGHT MAN TO MAN.
  • 20:04 (KEN) WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT MAN TO MAN AND THAT'S,
  • 20:09 (KEN) IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE CONVICTED OF BECAUSE YOU WERE FIGHTING?
  • 20:12 NO, I WAS CONVICTED BECAUSE I HELPED SOMEONE FIGHT THE ISRAELI ARMY
  • 20:20 AND KILLED SOME OF THE SOLDIERS.
  • 20:24 (KEN) SUICIDE BOMBER?
  • 20:25 NO, NOT SUICIDE, HE WAS A FIGHTER WITH A MACHINE GUN.
  • 20:30 (KEN) WHAT DO YOU THINK OF SUICIDE BOMBERS?
  • 20:33 WHEN YOU READ THE HISTORY OF THIS THING
  • 20:39 YOU WILL SEE THAT IT'S SOMETHING GET FROM US WHEN WE REACH TO OUR POINT
  • 20:51 THAT NO ONE HEAR US AND NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE US OUR FREEDOM AND SO ON.
  • 20:57 YOU WILL SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE MURDERERS WAS EDUCATED
  • 21:03 AND EVEN SOME OF THEM WAS HIGH EDUCATED ESPECIALLY FROM HAMAS AND THEY WERE KNOWN,
  • 21:13 THEY KNEW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY REACHED TO THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE OCCUPATION HERE.
  • 21:22 SO THE OCCUPATION IS THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS THING.
  • 21:27 EVEN I REMEMBER THAT SHEIK HASIN OFFERED TO THE ISRAELI SIDE
  • 21:33 THAT WE WANT TO TAKE THE CIVILIANS OUT OF THE CONFLICT
  • 21:40 AND ONLY WE WILL FIGHT MAN TO MAN AND THE ISRAELI SIDE REFUSED
  • 21:45 TO GET OUT THE ISRAELI CIVILIANS FROM BOTH SIDES OUT OF THE CONFLICT
  • 21:52 LIKE THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE IN SOUTH LEBANON BETWEEN HEZBOLLAH AND THE ISRAELI SIDE
  • 22:03 AND THE ISRAELIS REFUSED TO MAKE THIS EXAMPLE IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA.
  • 22:10 (KEN) IS IT HARD TO FIND PEOPLE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS--
  • 22:15 AFTER THESE YEARS OF OCCUPATION, IT'S HARD TO STOP THEM, NOT HARD TO FIND THEM.
  • 22:24 WE HAVE A PROBLEM TO MAKE THEM STOP.
  • 22:27 WELL, WALID, HE'S GOT A LOT TO SAY ABOUT FIGHTING MAN TO MAN,
  • 22:31 BUT I DON'T THINK THEY FIGHT THAT WAY.
  • 22:34 SUICIDE BOMBERS DON'T FIGHT MAN TO MAN.
  • 22:36 YES, IT IS FIGHTING MAN TO MAN FROM HIS PROSPECTIVE
  • 22:39 BECAUSE A JEWISH CHILD WILL BECOME ISRAEL'S FUTURE SOLDIER.
  • 22:42 I WALKED IN ONE TIME WITH COUSIN WATCHING ADOLF HITLER AND HE'S SALUTING ADOLF HITLER
  • 22:46 AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WHY DO YOU SALUTE ADOLF HITLER, HE'S KILLED JEWISH BABIES.
  • 22:49 HE SAID, THESE JEWISH BABIES ARE ISRAEL'S FUTURE SOLDIERS AND THAT'S HOW THEY VIEW IT.
  • 22:55 KILLING INNOCENT, DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
  • 22:57 BUT, GRANTED THEY GROW UP AND SOME BECOME SOLDIERS,
  • 23:01 BUT THERE'S NO REASON FOR A SOLDIER TO HARM ANY PALESTINIAN
  • 23:04 IF THE PALESTINIANS WOULD JUST STOP THESE MURDERS.
  • 23:07 IT'S NOT THE JEWISH SOLDIER, AS A JEWISH SOLDIER, IT'S THE JEWISH EXISTENCE, PERIOD.
  • 23:10 JEWS HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXIST IN THAT LAND, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED AN OCCUPATION.
  • 23:14 THAT'S WHY THEY CAN EXCUSE THEMSELVES,
  • 23:15 BLOWING THEMSELVES UP IN THE NAME OF OCCUPATION.
  • 23:17 BUT, ONE HAS TO ASK THEMSELVES A QUESTION, IF IT'S REGARDING THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION,
  • 23:21 WHY WOULD A SUICIDE BOMBER GO INTO TO AMMAN AND BLOW HIMSELF UP
  • 23:24 BLOW HIMSELF UP IN BALI, BLOW HIMSELF UP IN TURKEY, BLOW HIMSELF UP IN INDIA,
  • 23:27 BLOW HIMSELF UP AND WHY THERE'S NO CHRISTIAN PALESTINIANS BLOWING THEMSELVES UP,
  • 23:31 BECAUSE IT'S A RELIGIOUS DOGMA.
  • 23:33 NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S THAT RELIGIOUS DOGMA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PREACH.
  • 23:37 THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT.
  • 23:39 THERE'S NO PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS EVER ACT AS SUICIDE BOMBERS.
  • 23:42 IT'S ALWAYS MUSLIMS. >>IT'S ALWAYS MUSLIMS.
  • 23:44 WALID, WHEN MY FATHER CAME TO THIS COUNTRY FROM LATVIA, HE JUST GOT A JOB,
  • 23:49 GOT MARRIED, RAISED 3 KIDS, HE PUT THEM THROUGH GRADUATE SCHOOL, HE DID A GOOD JOB.
  • 23:52 HE DIDN'T EVER CLAIM THE COUNTRY FOR LATVIA.
  • 23:55 (LAUGHING)
  • 23:57 I MEAN, IF THEY WOULD COOPERATE WITH THIS ISRAELI DEMOCRACY, WOULD THERE BE ANY PROBLEM?
  • 24:01 THERE'D BE NO PROBLEM.
  • 24:03 THE ISRAELIS OPENED 20-SOME SCHOOLS, 20-SOME UNIVERSITIES FOR THE PALESTINIANS.
  • 24:06 THEY HAVE POURED SO MUCH MONEY, THEY WANTED TO REBUILD THE CAMPS
  • 24:10 AND THE PALESTINIANS REJECTED THE ISRAELIS FROM BUILDING THE CAMPS.
  • 24:14 WHY, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KEEP THIS WHOLE NOTION OF OCCUPATION
  • 24:16 THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THOSE REFUGEE CAMPS TO DECENT HOUSING AND THEY SAID, NO.
  • 24:20 ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT SAME PRISONER.
  • 24:23 HE'S GOT A LOT TO SAY.
  • 24:24 BOY, TALK ABOUT PLAIN BRAINWASH.
  • 24:27 (KEN) IF THERE'S NOTHING BUT TALK RELEVANT TO THE WEST BANK AND TO JERUSALEM
  • 24:33 AND NOTHING HAPPENS THERE, IS THAT KIND OF A POINT OF LAST RESORT AGAIN,
  • 24:37 HAVING TO DO THE SAME THING?
  • 24:40 A LOT OF THE ANALYSIS GUYS SAID THAT BECAUSE THE ISRAELI SIDE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND UNTIL NOW
  • 24:53 THAT WE NEED OUR FREEDOM AND OUR STATE, THEY SEE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER INTIFADA.
  • 25:02 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, WALID?
  • 25:04 WE GO BACK TO SCRIPTURE, ZOLA.
  • 25:07 THE SCRIPTURES TELLS US THAT THESE EVENTS ALREADY HAVE BEEN PROPHESIED ABOUT,
  • 25:11 MUSLIM COUNTRIES COMING AGAINST ISRAEL AND GOD TAKING THE BELIEVERS
  • 25:16 AND UNITING US TO HIM IN THE RAPTURE TO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL.
  • 25:20 MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T LOOK AT JOEL CHAPTER 2 AND 3 AND CONNECT THEM TOGETHER.
  • 25:24 IN JOEL CHAPTER 2 VERSE 16
  • 25:31 THAT'S THE RAPTURE, US MEANING THE LORD AND THEN GOD IS ZEALOUS FOR HIS PEOPLE.
  • 25:45 THAT THE LAND IS REALLY OCCUPIED BY AN ENEMY FORCE, THAT GOD'S GOING TO LIBERATE THAT LAND.
  • 25:50 THE RAPTURE IS TIED INTO THAT LAND AND THEN IN JOEL CHAPTER 3 WE CONTINUE,
  • 25:54 THE WHOLE THING OF ARMAGEDDON WHERE THE NATIONS ARE JUDGED
  • 25:57 IS FOR THE DIVIDING OF THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND FOR THE MIS- TREATMENT OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 26:02 IF YOU GO FROM THE DRY BONES VISION IN EZEKIEL 37
  • 26:07 YOU SEE THE PEOPLE WAKE OUT OF THEIR GRAVES, COME INTO ISRAEL.
  • 26:10 IT'S VERY CLEAR WHOSE LAND IT IS BECAUSE GOD HIMSELF INTERPRETS THE VISION
  • 26:15 AND HE SAYS TO EZEKIEL,
  • 26:24 THAT'S EZEKIEL 37:14 AND WHO DOES THIS, WHO DECIDES IT?
  • 26:35 THE INTERESTING THING, IT MENTIONS IN THE VALLEY OF THE DRY BONE
  • 26:37 THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE SLAIN, THEY WERE KILLED, DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 26:43 YEAH.
  • 26:45 THERE'RE REALLY NO ARGUMENT, BUT WE WENT TO A PRISON SO YOU COULD HEAR IT FIRST HAND
  • 26:49 AND WHAT THESE FELLOWS BELIEVE AND SOME CASES EVEN GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR.
  • 26:55 WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS
  • 26:57 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Koran vs. Bible with Ibrahim Abdullah
  2. On Pain of Death with Ibrahim Abdullah
  3. Born in Bethlehem with Walid Shoebat
  4. A License to Kill with Walid Shoebat
  5. 35 Life Sentences with Walid Shoebat
  6. Cowardice at Princeton with Ibrahim Abdullah

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