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Episode: “The Tunnel”

Zola takes a tour through the tunnel under the western edge of the Temple Mount. From Jerusalem, we get a journalist’s perspective of the Palestinian uproar that occurred when the tunnel was opened to the public in September 1996.

Series: “The Stones Cry Out (2012)”

In recent decades, many marvelous, new archaeological discoveries have greatly illuminated and validated the biblical record. In order to film the archaeological sites and interview the experts, Zola Levitt, Thomas McCall, and the production crew of Zola Levitt Presents journeyed to Israel and Jordan. We found that, just as our Lord said about this remarkable Land, indeed The Stones Cry Out. (Luke 19:40) Myles and Katharine Weiss host this encore presentation, examining the archaeological discoveries that shed light on the Bible.

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Caption transcript for The Stones Cry Out (2012): “The Tunnel” (1/12)

00:02 (♪ "The Stones Cry Out" ♪)
00:08 ♪ ♪
00:24 Male Singer: ♪ IF NO ONE STANDS TO SPEAK, ♪
00:29 ♪ IF NO ONE PRAYS, ♪
00:35 ♪ THESE VERY STONES CRY OUT ♪
00:41 ♪ "I AM." ♪♪
00:46 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME
00:47 TO AN UPDATED SERIES,
00:49 "THE STONES CRY OUT."
00:50 THIS IS A WORK THAT ZOLA AND
00:52 TOM McCALL DID BACK IN THE '90s,
00:54 UNEARTHING THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL
00:56 EVIDENCE OF BIBLICAL TRUTH.
00:58 AND WE'RE THRILLED
00:59 TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY.
01:00 YOU KNOW, THIS VERY TITLE
01:02 IS BASED ON THE VERSE
01:03 FROM LUKE 19:40 WHERE JESUS SAID
01:06 THAT IF THE DISCIPLES
01:07 DIDN'T PRAISE HIM,
01:08 THE VERY STONES WOULD CRY OUT.
01:10 AND THEY ARE CRYING OUT
01:11 FROM ISRAEL, AREN'T THEY?
01:13 Katharine: CRYING OUT TODAY.
01:14 EACH AND EVERY DAY, THERE ARE
01:15 NEW ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS THAT ARE
01:17 BEING DISCOVERED THAT ARE
01:18 UNEARTHING HOW REAL THE BIBLE IS
01:22 AND HOW MUCH WE CAN KNOW.
01:24 OUR CAMERA CREW GOES FROM DAN
01:26 TO THE DEAD SEA,
01:27 FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN TO PETRA,
01:30 SHOWING AND TESTIFYING
01:32 OF THESE WONDERFUL STORIES.
01:34 Myles: IT'S REALLY AMAZING.
01:35 THERE'S SUCH CONTROVERSY TODAY.
01:37 THERE ARE SO MANY POLITICAL
01:38 VIEWS TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH
01:40 THE SCIENCE OF ARCHAEOLOGY
01:42 AND THE WAY THAT UNEARTHS
01:44 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
01:45 WELL, WE GET A CHANCE
01:46 IN THIS SERIES TO SHOW YOU HOW
01:48 THE STONES ARE CRYING OUT
01:50 AND HOW THE VERY EARTH
01:51 IS VERIFYING
01:52 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
01:53 IN THIS FIRST SEGMENT, ZOLA'S
01:56 GOING TO SPEAK TO DANNY BAHAT.
01:57 AND TOM McCALL
01:58 WILL SPEAK WITH DAVID DOLAN.
02:00 AND DANNY BAHAT IS GOING
02:01 TO SPEAK ABOUT THE UNEARTHING
02:02 OF THE HASMONIAN TUNNELS
02:04 AND THE TIME OF THE MACCABEES
02:06 AND HOW WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT
02:07 OUT, ARAFAT, BACK IN THE DAY,
02:10 HE SAID THAT IT WAS INTERFERING
02:12 WITH THE AL-AQSA MOSQUE
02:13 AND IT CAUSED RIOTS
02:14 IN WHICH 70 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
02:16 Katharine: IT'S SUCH A SHAME
02:17 THAT OUR NEWS REPORTERS
02:20 DIDN'T EVEN GO DOWN AND SEE
02:22 WHAT WAS BEING PROMOTED AS
02:25 SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERFERING
02:27 WITH MUSLIM HOLY SITES.
02:29 Myles: EXACTLY
02:30 Katharine: THIS IS WHY WE NEED
02:31 YOUR GIFTS OF FUNDS SO MUCH
02:33 DURING THIS TIME,
02:34 SO WE COULD ACCURATELY SHOW YOU
02:35 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAND.
02:37 WE TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL AND
02:39 ACCURATELY SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING
02:41 ON THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE'S EYE.
02:43 Myles: EXACTLY
02:44 AND SO NOW LET'S GO TO ZOLA
02:45 ON LOCATION WITH DANNY BAHAT.
02:49 Danny: THAT'S A VIEW
02:50 OF THE OLD CITY FROM THE NORTH.
02:52 YOU CAN SEE THE PRAYING PLAZA,
02:53 WHICH IS HERE.
02:54 OUR TUNNELS GO ALL THE WAY ALONG
02:56 THE WESTERN WALL AND THIS IS
02:58 THE POINT WHERE WE GO INTO
03:00 THE MACCABEAN AQUEDUCT WHICH
03:02 GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE,
03:04 PAINTED IN BLUE.
03:05 THE LAST PART IS THE PART
03:07 THAT THE OFFICIAL TUNNEL
03:08 WAS MADE TO GO OUT HERE.
03:09 WE MADE THIS PLAN
03:11 IN ORDER TO SHOW, REALLY,
03:12 THAT WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO
03:14 WITH THE TEMPLE MOUNT PRECINCT.
03:15 WE ARE ALL THE WAY OUT
03:17 AND YOU SEE WE CAME EVEN FURTHER
03:19 FROM THE ABUTTING WALL TUNNEL
03:21 WHICH WE HAD BEFORE.
03:22 WE WENT ALL THE WAY,
03:23 AS FAR AS POSSIBLE,
03:25 TO ONE OF THE WIDEST STREETS
03:26 IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM.
03:27 Zola: THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUNNEL
03:28 IS HERE ON THE MAP
03:30 AND LOCATED ADJACENT
03:31 TO THE WESTERN WALL PLAZA.
03:33 DANNY AND I BEGAN OUR JOURNEY
03:35 AT THIS POINT.
03:37 THE LABYRINTH OF NARROW PASSAGES
03:39 IS MORE THAN 400 YARDS LONG
03:41 AND REVEALS OVER 2,000 YEARS
03:43 OF HISTORY.
03:44 THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE TUNNEL
03:46 IS AN ARCHED WALKWAY
03:47 BUILT BY THE MAMLUKES
03:48 SOME 700 YEARS AGO.
03:50 ITS PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT
03:52 THE ROADWAY ABOVE.
03:54 A FEW HUNDRED FEET FURTHER,
03:56 THE PASSAGEWAY OPENS INTO
03:57 A SPECTACULAR SUBTERRANEAN ROOM.
04:00 THE FINELY FASHIONED STONES
04:02 OF THIS HERODIAN STRUCTURE
04:04 SPEAK OF A JEWISH LEGACY DATING
04:05 BACK TO THE SECOND TEMPLE.
04:08 DANNY BAHAT EXPLAINS.
04:10 Danny: THIS ROOM, IT DATES FROM
04:11 THE TIME OF HEROD THE GREAT.
04:13 ACTUALLY, IT IS
04:15 THE ONLY BUILDING, HITHERTO,
04:17 FOUND IN THE COUNTRY,
04:19 ALL BUILT OF ASHLA, WHICH MEANS
04:21 SQUARE-CAST STONES IN SUCH
04:23 A MANNER IN THE MINOR BUILDING,
04:25 BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE MASONRY,
04:28 BEAUTIFUL ASHLA MASONRY
04:29 ON THE WESTERN WALL IN THE CAVE
04:31 OF THE PATRIARCHS AT HEBRON.
04:33 BUT THERE'S A KIND OF A ROOM.
04:34 THIS IS THE FIRST ONE HITHERTO
04:36 DISCOVERED IN SUCH A SHAPE.
04:38 WHAT IS IT, REALLY, FROM HEROD'S
04:39 TIME, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
04:42 THERE ARE MANY SUGGESTIONS LIKE
04:43 THE CHAMBER OF ASHLA, WHICH WAS
04:45 A SUPREME COURT OF APPEAL
04:47 DURING THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
04:48 BUT I DON'T KNOW.
04:49 Zola: YES
04:50 Danny: BUT, OTHERWISE,
04:51 IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BUILDING
04:52 OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
04:53 THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS SHAPE
04:55 WAS COMPLETELY DISTORTED
04:57 DURING THE EARLY ARAB PERIOD
04:59 WHEN IT WAS USED
05:00 AS A KIND OF A WORKSHOP,
05:01 WHERE THEY SMELTED METAL,
05:03 BECAUSE WHEN WE EXCAVATED HERE,
05:04 WE FOUND MANY SLAGS
05:07 AND OTHER FURNACES
05:08 AND ALL KIND OF THINGS.
05:10 WE, OF COURSE, CLEANED IT,
05:11 IN ORDER TO BRING IT
05:12 TO THE SHAPE AS IT WAS,
05:13 MORE OR LESS, AS IT WAS DURING
05:15 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD...
05:16 LET'S SAY THE TIME OF CHRIST.
05:18 NOW, ALL TOGETHER,
05:19 WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY,
05:20 THAT WALKING ALL THE WAY HERE,
05:22 WE WALKED UNDER DOMES AND VAULTS
05:25 WHICH DATE FROM
05:26 THE LATE MEDIEVAL, NAMELY FROM
05:28 WHAT WE CALL THE MAMLUKE PERIOD,
05:29 14th, 15th CENTURY,
05:31 AND WE CAME DOWN TO THIS PLACE
05:33 WHICH IS 1st CENTURY B.C.
05:34 Zola: OKAY, AS WE WENT
05:36 DOWNSTAIRS, OF COURSE, WE WENT
05:38 BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS...
05:39 A THOUSAND YEARS.
05:40 Danny: IT'S TRUE.
05:41 THAT'S THE IDEA BECAUSE,
05:42 YOU SEE, THE SYSTEM OF TUNNELS
05:46 WHERE WE ARE NOW,
05:47 WHICH STARTED TO BE AND WHICH
05:49 THEY STARTED TO DIG IN 1968,
05:52 FOLLOWING THE SIX DAY WAR,
05:54 THIS SYSTEM OF TUNNELS I THINK
05:57 TODAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SITE
05:58 IN JERUSALEM.
05:59 WHY, BECAUSE THE HISTORY
06:01 OF JERUSALEM HAS UNDERGONE MANY
06:03 VICISSITUDES DURING HISTORY.
06:05 AND IN THESE TUNNELS
06:07 EVERY PERIOD OF THOSE PERIODS
06:09 IS SOMEHOW REPRESENTED.
06:11 IT MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE,
06:12 THE EARLY ARAB, IT APPEARS,
06:14 IS PRESENTED BY REPAIRED WALLS
06:16 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
06:17 THE MAMLUKE,
06:18 THEY COVERED THE WESTERN WALL
06:20 IN ORDER TO LIFT
06:22 OR, ACTUALLY, TO, YES, TO RAISE
06:25 THE LEVEL OF THE OLD CITY
06:26 TO THE PRESENT LEVEL
06:28 BECAUSE OF VARIOUS OTHER REASONS
06:30 TO WHICH WE WILL REFER LATER.
06:31 AND ALL TOGETHER EVERY PERIOD
06:33 IS REPRESENTED SOMEHOW.
06:35 THIS ROOM IS ACTUALLY THE ACME
06:38 OF THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD
06:40 IF WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT
06:41 THE WESTERN WALL,
06:42 BECAUSE THE WESTERN WALL,
06:43 OF COURSE, IS THE REASON
06:44 FOR THE WHOLE THING.
06:45 Zola: NOW, THIS, RUNNING
06:47 NEARBY HERE, ARE TWO TUNNELS.
06:50 THE ONE I UNDERSTOOD
06:51 THE ARCHAEOLOGIST BUILT IN ORDER
06:52 TO STUDY ALONG THE WESTERN WALL.
06:55 THE OTHER IS THE ONE
06:56 THAT WAS IN THE NEWS RECENTLY.
06:57 Danny: YES, WE HAVE EXCAVATED
06:59 TWO OF THEM.
07:00 ACTUALLY, THE FIRST ONE,
07:02 AS YOU SAID,
07:03 IS AN ARTIFICIAL TUNNEL BORED
07:05 BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS SINCE 1968
07:08 IN ORDER TO EXPOSE
07:09 THE WESTERN WALL.
07:11 WE WENT ALONG ALL KINDS
07:12 OF SYSTEMS OF RETAINING WALLS,
07:14 VAULTS, ARCHES, ALL KIND OF
07:16 THINGS WHICH ARE STILL TO BE
07:18 ANALYZED BUT IN PRINCIPLE
07:19 WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
07:21 AT THE END OF IT, WE CAME
07:24 INTO A TUNNEL WHICH WAS BOUGHT
07:26 BY THE MACCABEES
07:27 NAMELY IN THE 2nd CENTURY B.C.
07:30 IT IS CALLED EITHER MACCABEES OR
07:32 HASMONEANS, WHICH IS SYNONYMS.
07:34 Zola: ABOUT 200 YEARS
07:35 BEFORE CHRIST.
07:36 Danny: 200 YEARS BEFORE CHRIST.
07:38 NOW THE THING IS THAT THIS IS
07:40 SOMETHING OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE,
07:43 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY
07:44 OF THE SITE,
07:45 WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER.
07:46 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
07:47 THE IMPRESSION ONE GETS WHEN
07:48 HE WALKS THERE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE
07:51 IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REMAINS
07:52 EVER FOUND IN THIS COUNTRY
07:54 BEFORE, PERTAINING TO
07:56 THE MACCABEAN PERIOD.
07:58 THIS IS REALLY UNIQUE.
08:00 ALSO, BECAUSE OF THAT,
08:01 WE HAVE EXPOSED THE REMAINS
08:03 WHICH ARE VERY SCANT,
08:05 BUT STILL ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT
08:06 OF THE PALACE OF THE MACCABEES,
08:09 WHICH WAS TO THE NORTH OF
08:10 THE TEMPLE MOUNT OF THAT TIME,
08:12 COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND
08:13 SHAVED AWAY BY HEROD THE GREAT,
08:16 WHEN HE EXTENDED
08:17 THE TEMPLE MOUNT
08:18 AND BUILT ANTONIA FORTRESS,
08:19 THE FAMOUS FORTRESS WHICH PLAYED
08:21 SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE
08:22 IN EARLY CHRISTIANITY.
08:24 Zola: OKAY, THE MACCABEES
08:25 WERE A FAMILY THAT EXISTED
08:29 AND REVOLTED AGAINST
08:30 THE SYRO-PHOENICIANS
08:32 WHO WERE CONTROLLING THE LAND
08:34 AGAINST ANTIOCHUS, IF I'M RIGHT,
08:36 AND THEY HAD A PALACE HERE
08:39 AS YOU'RE EXPLAINING.
08:40 Danny: NOW THAT FAMILY IT WAS...
08:42 CAME ACTUALLY, IT WAS
08:43 THE RULER OF AUTOCRACY
08:45 IN OUR COUNTRY IN JUDAH.
08:47 AND IN THE 2nd CENTURY WHEN
08:49 THERE WERE TWO TRENDS AMONGST
08:50 THE JEWS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY
08:52 WHO WERE UNDER THE YOKE
08:54 OF THE SELEUCIDS.
08:55 THE SELEUCIDS WERE THE HEIRS
08:56 OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
08:58 NOW THERE WERE TWO TENDENCIES
09:00 IN THE COUNTRY, TO ACCEPT
09:01 THE HELLENISTIC WAY OF LIFE,
09:03 OR TO PRESERVE
09:05 THE AUTHENTIC JEWISH LIFE.
09:06 Zola: OKAY.
09:07 Danny: THE FIGHT
09:08 ALMOST ENDED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT
09:10 OF THE SELEUCIDS,
09:11 NAMELY OF THE THOSE, LET'S SAY
09:12 GREEK-ORIENTATED RULERS
09:15 OF THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO
09:17 REALLY GREEK-ORIENTATED WAY
09:19 OF LIFE, BUT THERE WAS A KIND OF
09:22 A ZEAL AMONGST THE RURAL PEOPLE
09:26 TO MAINTAIN JEWISH WAYS OF LIFE.
09:28 THAT FAMILY, WHICH COMES FROM
09:29 A LITTLE TOWN NAMED MODI'IN,
09:31 WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM JERUSALEM.
09:32 IT'S ABOUT 30 KILOMETERS
09:34 FROM JERUSALEM.
09:35 THEY REBELLED AND THEY MANAGED
09:37 TO ORGANIZE A WHOLE REVOLT
09:39 AGAINST THE SELEUCIDS.
09:41 FINALLY JUDAH
09:42 RECEIVED ITS INDEPENDENCE,
09:44 AND FOR OVER 200 YEARS, JUDAH
09:46 WAS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
09:48 Zola: AND THAT ESTABLISHED
09:49 A HOLIDAY CALLED "HANUKKAH."
09:52 Danny: BECAUSE OF THE VICTORY
09:53 WE CELEBRATE TO THIS VERY DAY,
09:54 THE HANUKKAH HOLY DAY, WHICH IS
09:57 ACTUALLY TO COMMEMORATE NOT ONLY
09:58 THE VICTORY OF THE SELEUCIDS
10:00 AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION
10:01 OF THE TEMPLE,
10:02 BUT ALSO IT IS IN ORDER
10:04 TO COMMEMORATE THE GREAT MIRACLE
10:06 WHICH OCCURRED WHEN THE JEWS
10:07 MANAGED TO KINDLE
10:09 THE CANDELABRUM FOR 8 DAYS,
10:12 ALTHOUGH THE EWER,
10:13 THE LITTLE PURE OIL THEY FOUND,
10:15 COULD SUFFICE FOR ONLY ONE DAY.
10:16 AND THIS IS REALLY
10:17 THE MAIN REASON
10:18 BECAUSE IT WAS A MIRACLE;
10:19 IT WAS A DIVINE MIRACLE.
10:20 Zola: TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION
10:21 BACK TO THE TUNNEL THEN,
10:23 IT IS SORT OF--
10:24 WELL, IT'S MORE THAN SORT OF,
10:26 IT IS A REAL PROOF
10:27 OF THE JEWISH PRIMACY
10:29 IN THIS LAND AT THAT TIME.
10:30 Danny: DEFINITELY.
10:31 WHEN WE WOULD WALK
10:32 ALONG THE WESTERN WALL
10:34 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
10:35 YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
10:36 ACTUALLY WALKING ALONG
10:38 THE MOST MAGNIFICENT STRUCTURE
10:40 IN ANTIQUITY.
10:41 I ALWAYS SAY,
10:42 IN A KIND OF A JOKE,
10:44 THAT THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT SEVEN
10:45 MARVELS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD.
10:48 I SAY ALWAYS THERE WERE NINE.
10:50 THE NINTH BEING, WHY DIDN'T
10:51 THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN JERUSALEM
10:53 BECOME THE EIGHTH?
10:54 BECAUSE, BY FAR MORE,
10:56 IT EXCEEDS ANY OTHER STRUCTURE
10:58 OF ANTIQUITY.
11:00 FOR EXAMPLE,
11:01 IF ONE OF THE MARVELS WERE
11:03 THE GREAT PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT AND
11:04 YOU COULD TAKE THREE AND A HALF
11:06 OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS AND
11:07 PUT THEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
11:10 NOW, THE THING IS, THAT IT IS
11:11 REALLY A UNIQUE STRUCTURE
11:13 AND YOU'LL SEE WE ARE WALKING
11:14 AND WALKING AND WALKING ALONG
11:16 ONE MORE WALL WHICH ORIGINALLY
11:18 WAS VERY HIGH, IN SOME PLACES
11:20 OVER 200 FEET HIGH.
11:22 AND YOU ARE WALKING ALONG IT
11:23 WITH BEAUTIFUL MASONRY,
11:25 VERY WELL EXECUTED,
11:27 SO ALL THAT CAN REALLY GIVE YOU
11:28 REALLY THE IMPRESSION
11:29 OF HOW BIG IT WAS.
11:30 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY THAT,
11:32 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAME AGAIN
11:34 TO THAT PHASE WHEN WE'VE GOT TO
11:36 PROVE THAT JERUSALEM IS HOLY
11:38 TO US AND THE TEMPLE MOUNT
11:39 WAS BUILT BY A JEWISH KING.
11:41 AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH
11:42 I THOUGHT WILL NEVER OCCUR AGAIN
11:44 AND INDEED, IT COMES HERE AGAIN
11:46 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
11:47 WE'VE GOT TO BE A KIND OF--
11:49 TO TRY TO EXPLAIN
11:50 WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW.
11:51 THE JEWS WHO PRAY AT
11:53 THE WESTERN WALL WANT TO KNOW--
11:55 WHICH IS THE HOLIEST PLACE
11:56 FOR JUDAISM AT PRESENT--
11:58 WANT TO KNOW ALSO TO SAY
12:00 THE SECRETS OF THE WESTERN WALL,
12:02 WHERE DOES IT START,
12:03 WHERE DOES IT END?
12:04 AND THIS WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE
12:05 OF THE TUNNEL,
12:06 OF DIGGING THE TUNNEL,
12:07 AND I THINK WE GIVE
12:08 ALL THE ANSWERS
12:09 IN A MOST SATISFACTORY MANNER.
12:10 Zola: YEAH.
12:11 SO NOW, WITH THIS TUNNEL DUG,
12:13 PEOPLE FROM THE WALL CAN WALK
12:15 ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND COME OUT
12:17 AT THE VIA DOLOROSA IN
12:18 THE MUSLIM QUARTER OF JERUSALEM.
12:20 Danny: WHICH MEANS THEY CAN WALK
12:21 OVER I WOULD SAY ABOUT 400 YARDS
12:25 TO SEE THE GREATNESS
12:27 OF THE WESTERN WALL AND TO COME
12:28 OUT IN THE VIA DOLOROSA TODAY.
12:32 Zola: WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL
12:33 JOURNEY DEEP INSIDE THE TUNNEL,
12:35 TO THE VERY BASE
12:36 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
12:37 AND, LATER ON, WHY DID THE MEDIA
12:39 MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES IN
12:41 REPORTING THE TUNNEL INCIDENT?
12:43 WE'LL GET A JOURNALIST'S
12:44 PERSPECTIVE.
12:45 David Dolan: AND I THINK THERE
12:46 WAS A REAL STEPPING BACK
12:48 AND SAYING WE'LL JUST REPORT
12:50 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
12:51 WE WON'T ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO
12:52 ANY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING
12:53 OURSELVES, THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY
12:55 TO APPROACH IT.
12:56 ♪ ♪
13:05 ♪ ♪
13:39 Katharine: ISRAEL...
13:40 THE LAND OF COVENANTS...
13:41 THE LAND WHERE THE BIBLE
13:42 COMES ALIVE AND HIS VOICE
13:44 IS EVEN LOUDER THAN EVER.
13:45 Myles: I KNOW.
13:46 IT'S REALLY TRUE.
13:47 THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN ISRAEL
13:49 ONE OF OUR PILGRIMS FOUND A COIN
13:50 FROM THE MACCABEAN ERA.
13:52 THIS VERY SERIES THAT WE'RE
13:53 DOING, "THE STONES CRY OUT," IS
13:55 BEING VERIFIED EVEN IN OUR DAY,
13:57 SO YOU WANT TO COME TO ISRAEL
13:58 WITH US.
13:59 ANOTHER WAY TO STUDY
14:00 YOUR JEWISH-CHRISTIAN ROOTS
14:02 IS TO RECEIVE OUR INSTITUTE
14:04 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
14:06 IT'S AN AMAZING PACKET
14:07 OF TEACHING THAT CAME
14:09 FROM JEFF SEIF AND ZOLA LEVITT.
14:11 THERE'S ONE CD, THREE CDs,
14:12 OR THE ENTIRE SEGMENT OF 12 CDs
14:15 THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE.
14:16 IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SO--HAD SUCH
14:17 AN IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR PEOPLE,
14:19 THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM
14:20 ONE OF OUR STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.
14:23 Britnni Rummel: I WOULD
14:24 RECOMMEND THIS INSTITUTE
14:25 BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED ME
14:26 DEEPEN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
14:28 GOING BACK AND LEARNING ABOUT
14:29 THE OLD TESTAMENT STUDIES, THERE
14:31 ARE A LOT OF CRAZY AND CONFUSING
14:33 THINGS IN THERE SOMETIMES, AND
14:34 TO REALLY GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND
14:36 THE CONTEXT OF IT, REALLY
14:38 HELPED ME WITH CHRISTIANITY,
14:40 BECAUSE WE HAVE HEBREW ROOTS.
14:41 WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN?
14:43 IT TEACHES YOU WHAT IT MEANS
14:45 AND WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR AND
14:47 IT JUST REALLY BRINGS ME BACK
14:48 TO YESHUA AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE
14:51 FOR HIM, AND IT REALLY JUST
14:52 STRENGTHENED AND DEEPENED MY
14:53 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OVERALL.
14:56 Myles: I SO APPRECIATE
14:57 THAT TESTIMONY; YOU KNOW,
14:58 THIS IS NOT JUST A CD COURSE.
15:01 THIS IS COMPARABLE
15:03 TO A BIBLE COLLEGE COURSE.
15:04 THE RESOURCE THIS WEEK
15:05 IS THE ENTIRE INSTITUTE
15:07 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
15:09 I REMEMBER BRINGING A PASTOR
15:10 TO ISRAEL AND HE SAID,
15:11 "I WISH I HAD DONE THIS
15:12 35 YEARS AGO IN SEMINARY."
15:14 THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT
15:16 OF A SEMINARY COURSE
15:17 IN JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
15:19 Katharine: YEAH, THIS COURSE
15:21 WILL NOT ONLY INSPIRE YOU
15:23 IN THE WORD AND IN
15:24 THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL,
15:26 BUT IT'LL EDUCATE YOU
15:27 IN YOUR HERITAGE THAT YOU HAVE
15:29 AS A SON OF ABRAHAM.
15:30 AND IT ALSO WILL HELP US
15:32 TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU
15:33 THESE PROGRAMS THAT
15:35 WE LOVE TO BRING YOU FROM ISRAEL
15:37 AND FROM THE HEART OF GOD.
15:39 Myles: YES, SO LET'S GO BACK
15:41 TO ZOLA ON LOCATION
15:42 AT THE WESTERN WALL.
15:45 Danny: AT FIRST, WHAT WE SEE
15:46 HERE IS THE WESTERN WALL
15:48 TO OUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
15:49 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST POINT
15:51 IN IT, AND IT IS ALL CARVED IN
15:53 THE ROCK BECAUSE HEROD THE GREAT
15:56 REALLY DESTROYED EVERYTHING
15:58 WHICH WAS BEFORE HIM.
16:00 AND WHAT HE DID WAS TO PUT HERE,
16:04 DOWN BELOW, IT IS NATURAL ROCK,
16:06 AND TO BRING ONE COURSE
16:08 OF STONES, WHICH WAS HERE.
16:09 Zola: OH, THIS IS ON TOP
16:10 OF THE BEDROCK.
16:11 Danny: YES, THAT'S BEDROCK.
16:12 DOWN BELOW, THIS IS BEDROCK
16:14 AND ABOVE IT, THE BUILDERS.
16:15 BUT THE MOST EXCITING OF ALL
16:17 THE STONES IN THE WESTERN WALL
16:19 IS THE ONE WHICH YOU SEE HERE,
16:20 BECAUSE HERE YOU CAN SEE
16:21 HOW HE BROUGHT IT
16:22 FROM THE QUARRY.
16:24 SEE...COMPLETELY ROUGH.
16:25 HERE YOU SEE THE CONCENTRIC
16:26 MOVEMENTS OF THE CHISELS,
16:28 WHERE THEY SMOOTH IT,
16:29 AND HERE IT IS,
16:30 ALREADY FINISHED.
16:31 IT IS THE ONLY STONE
16:32 ALONG THE ENTIRE STORY
16:34 WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON ONE STONE,
16:36 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
16:37 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
16:38 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
16:39 Zola: OH YES.
16:40 Danny: SO IT SHOWS US THAT,
16:41 ACTUALLY, ALL THE STONES
16:42 WERE HEWN WHEN THEY WERE
16:44 ALREADY INSTALLED IN PLACE.
16:45 Zola: I SEE.
16:46 Danny: YOU UNDERSTAND IT..
16:47 HE BROUGHT IT,
16:48 ROUGHLY HE WORKED ON IT ON SITE
16:51 AND HERE IT IS,
16:52 THE FINAL SHAPE OF IT.
16:53 YOU SEE, HERE'S ANOTHER STONE
16:55 LIKE THAT.
16:56 THIS ONE IS, AGAIN,
16:57 YOU SEE, IT IS ALREADY SMOOTH
16:58 AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT HERE,
16:59 YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY ROUGH.
17:00 Zola: OH, YES.
17:01 Danny: NOW, WE ARE NOW--
17:02 THIS IS THE END
17:03 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
17:04 THE WESTERN WALL ENDS HERE
17:05 LIKE THAT...AND AS WE GO,
17:07 THIS LITTLE FLIGHT OF STEPS,
17:08 WE'LL FIND OURSELVES
17:09 IN THE MACCABEAN TUNNEL.
17:11 Zola: AT THIS POINT,
17:12 WE LEFT A SEGMENT OF TUNNEL
17:14 DUG BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND
17:16 WE ENTERED THE HASMONEAN TUNNEL.
17:18 ORIGINALLY AN AQUEDUCT, IT WAS
17:20 CONSTRUCTED OVER 2,000 YEARS AGO
17:22 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THE
17:23 MACCABEAN PALACE FURTHER SOUTH.
17:26 THE WINDING CHANNEL WALLS
17:27 STRETCH HIGHER AND HIGHER,
17:29 TOWARD THE OLD CITY ABOVE.
17:30 Danny: YOU SEE HOW IT'S GOING
17:31 HIGHER AND HIGHER?
17:32 Zola: YES.
17:33 Danny: THE REASON IS THAT
17:34 ACTUALLY THEY NEVER BORED IT
17:35 AS A TUNNEL.
17:37 THEY EXCAVATED IT FROM TOP
17:39 AND THEN THEY COVERED IT
17:40 WITH SLABS
17:41 AND THEN IT BECAME A TUNNEL.
17:42 BUT THE THING IS, THE HILL IS
17:45 HIGHER THE FURTHER NORTH WE GO
17:47 AND IF WE GO NORTHWARDS...
17:48 LOOK AT THAT...
17:49 AT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A CANYON
17:51 IN THE DESERT.
17:52 NOW THE THING IS, THAT IT WAS
17:53 MADE BY THE MACCABEES IN ORDER
17:55 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THEIR PALACE.
17:58 TILL THE DISCOVERY OF
17:59 THIS TUNNEL WHICH, BY THE WAY,
18:01 WAS DISCOVERED ALREADY
18:02 IN THE 19th CENTURY,
18:04 BUT THE EXPLORERS THERE DIDN'T
18:05 UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.
18:07 SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DIDN'T
18:10 KNOW TO WHOM TO ATTRIBUTE IT.
18:12 NOW WE KNOW VERY WELL
18:13 THAT IT IS PRE-HERODIAN, BECAUSE
18:15 HEROD THE GREAT BUILT A DAM HERE
18:18 IN ORDER TO STOP THE WATER
18:20 WHICH CAME ALONG THIS AQUEDUCT;
18:23 ACTUALLY TO STOP IT
18:25 FROM GOING INTO THE WESTERN WALL
18:26 AND TO FLOOD HIS WALKS THERE.
18:29 BUT THE FANTASTIC THING IS THAT
18:30 WHEN WE GO UP TO THE TOP
18:32 AND YOU SEE THE CANYON,
18:33 THE VIEW OVER THE CANYON
18:34 IS REALLY MARVELOUS.
18:36 AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE
18:37 UNDER THE OLD CITY
18:39 IT IS REALLY FASCINATING.
18:40 Zola: OH, YES.
18:42 Danny: WE MADE A GLASS BRIDGE
18:43 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER
18:45 STILL FLOWS UNDERNEATH.
18:46 Zola: OH, YES.
18:47 Danny: YOU CAN SEE IT
18:48 DOWN THERE.
18:49 YOU SEE, THE CEILING
18:50 IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER.
18:52 Zola: OH, YES.
18:53 Danny: AND THIS IS REALLY
18:54 A UNIQUE THING ALTOGETHER TO SEE
18:56 THE ENTIRE HEIGHT OF THE TUNNELS
18:58 FROM BOTTOM TO TOP.
19:00 Zola: WE CONTINUED OUR ASCENT TO
19:02 THE END OF THE HASMONEAN SEGMENT
19:03 OF THE TUNNEL, ENTERING THE
19:04 FINAL PART OF THE TUNNEL SYSTEM.
19:06 EXCAVATION COMPLETED HERE
19:08 IN 1993 STOPPED 12 INCHES SHORT
19:11 OF BREAKING THROUGH
19:12 ONTO THE VIA DOLOROSA,
19:14 SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP,
19:15 TRADITION HOLDS
19:17 CHRIST WALKED THIS STREET
19:18 TO HIS CRUCIFIXION.
19:20 FINALLY IN 1996,
19:22 NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISLAMIC
19:24 AND JEWISH AUTHORITIES RESULTED
19:25 IN THE APPROVAL AND CREATION
19:27 OF THE TUNNEL EXIT.
19:29 AT FIRST ALL WAS CALM, HOWEVER,
19:31 PALESTINIAN LEADER YASSER ARAFAT
19:33 MADE MISLEADING STATEMENTS
19:34 REGARDING THE TUNNEL LOCATION
19:36 WHICH INCITED RIOTS, KILLING 70
19:39 AND INJURING HUNDREDS.
19:40 SPEAKING NEAR THE EXIT, DANNY
19:42 EXPLAINS ARAFAT'S DECEPTION.
19:44 Danny: HE DIFFUSED,
19:46 IN THE INTERNET AND EVERYWHERE,
19:48 A MAP OF OUR TUNNELS AS IF
19:49 THEY GO UNDER THE TWO MOSQUES
19:51 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
19:54 WE PUBLISHED A MAP OF THE WALK,
19:55 AS WE DO IN EVERY EXCAVATION.
19:57 AND HE TOOK THE SAME MAP
19:58 WHICH WAS PUBLISHED,
20:00 AND MOVED IT, THE TUNNEL.
20:01 HE PUT ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT
20:04 BETWEEN THE TWO MOSQUES.
20:05 THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
20:06 AND EVERYONE BELIEVED--
20:08 NO ONE COULD BELIEVE THAT
20:09 THE LEADER OF LET'S SAY A NATION
20:11 WITH NATIONAL ASPIRATIONS
20:12 CAN LIE TO THE WORLD
20:13 IN SUCH A MANNER.
20:15 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
20:16 WHAT HE DID.
20:17 David Dolan: THIS POLITICALLY
20:18 THREATENS...
20:19 Zola: DAVID DOLAN,
20:20 VETERAN JOURNALIST AND RESIDENT
20:21 OF JERUSALEM SPOKE WITH
20:22 DR. McCALL ABOUT THE EVENTS.
20:24 Tom McCALL: WHY DO WE GET
20:25 THIS KIND OF WRONG INFORMATION
20:28 OR MISINFORMATION
20:29 OR DISINFORMATION?
20:31 David: THE PALESTINIANS
20:32 PRESENTED IT AS A TUNNEL
20:34 THAT AFFECTED THE MOSQUE
20:36 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
20:37 SO THEY LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT
20:40 IT DID GO ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH
20:41 THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MEDIA
20:43 JUST REPORTED THAT WITHOUT
20:45 ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THE FACTS,
20:47 GOING DOWN THERE
20:49 AND LOOKING AT IT OR WHATEVER.
20:50 AND IT TOOK A FEW DAYS
20:52 FOR IT TO BE CLARIFIED EVEN HERE
20:54 LOCALLY, HERE IN THE MEDIA, THAT
20:56 THIS TUNNEL RUNS ON THE OUTSIDE
20:58 OF THE WESTERN WALL; THAT
21:00 IT'S AN ANCIENT TUNNEL, NOTHING
21:02 THAT HAS JUST BEEN BUILT.
21:03 IT WAS AN ANCIENT WATER TUNNEL
21:05 AT THE HASMONEAN PERIOD
21:06 AND THEREFORE HAS NOTHING
21:07 TO DO WITH THE MOSQUE ITSELF.
21:09 BUT, AGAIN, IT'S PRECISELY
21:11 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT ITSELF
21:13 THAT THE ISLAMIC CLAIM TO BE
21:16 THE FINAL REVELATION OF TRUTH,
21:17 THE FINAL FAITH,
21:19 THE SUPREME FAITH WAS,
21:21 THEY BELIEVED, CONCRETELY
21:23 DEMONSTRATED BY THEM
21:24 CAPTURING THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM,
21:26 AT THAT TIME IN 638,
21:28 BYZANTINE CHRISTIANS.
21:30 Zola: AND YET THESE TUNNELS THAT
21:31 YOU HAVE EXCAVATED SHOW THAT YOU
21:34 WERE HERE MANY CENTURIES BEFORE
21:36 THE BIRTH OF MOHAMMAD EVEN.
21:38 Danny: DEFINITELY.
21:39 IT WAS THE JEWS WHO BROUGHT
21:41 THE ARABS HERE DURING THE
21:42 CREATION OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE
21:45 IN THE 7th CENTURY
21:46 BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME HERE,
21:48 THEY DIDN'T KNOW
21:49 WHAT THEY ARE COMING TO.
21:50 IT WAS A CONVERTED JEW,
21:51 A MAN CALLED KA'AB AL-AHBAR WHO
21:53 BROUGHT THEM AND SHOWED THEM THE
21:55 HOLINESS OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
21:57 AND THEY WERE DELIBERATING.
21:58 AND WE'VE GOT IT
21:59 FROM ARAB SOURCES.
22:00 THEY WERE DELIBERATING WHERE
22:01 TO BUILD THE MOSQUE BECAUSE THEY
22:03 HAD NO--THERE WAS NO IMPORTANCE
22:05 WHATSOEVER TO JERUSALEM
22:06 IN THEIR EYES.
22:08 Tom: AND ARCHAEOLOGY IS AT THE
22:09 HEART OF THIS WHOLE CONTROVERSY
22:12 OVER WHO OWNS WHAT
22:14 AND WHO HAS THE MOST CLAIM
22:17 TO THESE PROPERTIES.
22:20 IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT
22:21 ARCHAEOLOGY WOULD HAVE SUCH AN
22:23 IMPACT ON INTERNATIONAL HISTORY.
22:27 David: WELL, IT IS, AND IT'S
22:28 A FRUSTRATING THING FOR LOCAL
22:30 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT
22:32 TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOB.
22:34 I'M TALKING ABOUT ISRAELIS
22:35 AND ARABS AND INTERNATIONAL
22:36 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT TO
22:37 GO AND SEARCH FOR ANCIENT THINGS
22:39 AND THEY KEEP FINDING THAT
22:40 WHATEVER THEY FIND AFFECTS
22:42 TODAY'S POLITICAL STRUGGLE
22:45 AND THAT THEY'RE PULLED THIS WAY
22:46 AND THEY'RE PULLED THAT WAY.
22:47 Zola: EVEN WITH THE POLITICAL
22:48 PRESSURES, DANNY, KNOWING
22:50 THE IMPORTANCE OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL
22:51 FINDINGS FOR ALL FAITHS,
22:53 CONTINUES HIS WORK
22:54 AT THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
22:56 Danny: THE TUNNEL,
22:57 THE IDEA OF THE TUNNEL
22:58 IS TO EXPOSE TO THE JEWISH WORLD
22:59 THE SANCTITY
23:01 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
23:02 MOREOVER, IN THIS RESPECT,
23:04 SINCE IT REFERS TO
23:06 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
23:07 IT IS ALSO OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
23:09 TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
23:11 TO THE MUSLIMS, OUR TUNNEL
23:12 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, FROM
23:13 THE SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW
23:16 WE HAVE REVEALED HERE
23:17 LAYERS OF ISLAMIC DEVELOPMENT,
23:20 URBAN DEVELOPMENT OF JERUSALEM
23:22 OF WHICH THEY NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
23:24 SO, ALL TOGETHER, INSTEAD OF,
23:26 I WILL SAY, ENCOURAGING,
23:28 THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A SITE
23:30 WHICH EVERYONE...
23:31 JEWS...CHRISTIANS...AND MUSLIMS
23:33 CAN FIND EACH OF THEM SOMETHING
23:35 WHICH WILL WARM HIS POINT...
23:37 I MEAN, WILL WARM HIS HEART
23:39 WITH A CERTAIN POINT
23:40 OF HIS LEGACY,
23:42 THEY MADE A WHOLE MESS OF IT.
23:43 AND THIS IS, REALLY...
23:45 I'M AFRAID IT IS TYPICAL THING.
23:47 AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO FURIOUS,
23:48 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE
23:49 AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS
23:52 WHICH THE WORLD DENIED.
23:53 AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MEDIA
23:54 TOOK PART IN THIS DENIAL.
23:57 Tom: WHAT DID YOU THINK
23:59 OF THE EARLY REPORTING THAT CAME
24:00 OUT ABOUT THE TUNNEL EPISODE?
24:04 Danny: WELL, TOM,
24:05 AS A JOURNALIST WHO'S LIVED HERE
24:06 AND REPORTED FROM HERE
24:08 FOR 16 YEARS I'VE GOT TO SAY
24:09 I WAS A BIT DISAPPOINTED IN IT.
24:12 JOURNALISTS KNOW THAT ALL OF
24:14 THESE ISSUES ARE VERY POLITICAL
24:17 AND EMOTIONAL, ETC.
24:18 THEY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET
24:20 A SLANTED VERSION OF WHAT'S
24:22 GOING ON AND THERE WAS I THINK
24:24 A VERY LIMITED ATTEMPT
24:26 TO CHECK THE FACTS.
24:29 WE HAD, FOR INSTANCE,
24:30 ARCHAEOLOGIST DANNY BAHAT
24:32 WHO'S SO INVOLVED IN THIS
24:33 AND YET HE WASN'T CONSULTED
24:36 BY THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA.
24:38 THE BBC, CNN AND OTHERS
24:41 REPEATED THE REPORT THAT THE
24:43 ISRAELIS HAVE OPENED A TUNNEL.
24:45 WELL, OF COURSE, IT WAS JUST
24:46 AN EXIT TO THE TUNNEL,
24:48 A DOOR THAT HAD BEEN PUT IN.
24:50 SO THAT WAS VERY,
24:51 VERY MISLEADING.
24:52 AND THEY DIDN'T GO DOWN
24:54 AND LOOK AT THE THING TOO.
24:55 I WAS WAITING FOR ONE
24:56 OF THE INTERNATIONAL NETWORKS
24:58 TO HAVE A CAMERA CREW
24:59 GO THROUGH IT AND SAY,
25:00 "THIS IS WHERE IT BEGINS,
25:01 THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS,
25:02 THIS IS WHERE IT IS
25:03 IN RELATION TO THE MOSQUE, ETC."
25:05 AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT AT ALL.
25:07 SO IT WAS VERY SHALLOW REPORTING
25:09 I THOUGHT.
25:10 Zola: WHAT IF THE MUSLIMS
25:11 AND JEWS REALLY WORKED TOGETHER?
25:14 David: I WISH IT WERE.
25:15 I TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE
25:16 NOW IS--AND I'M, OF COURSE,
25:18 YOU CAN IMAGINE I WANT
25:19 THIS PEACE AND EVERYTHING...
25:20 EVEN WITH EGYPT, WITH WHICH
25:21 WE SIGNED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO,
25:23 A PEACE AGREEMENT;
25:24 YOU DON'T SEE ANY
25:26 SCIENTIFIC COLLABORATION,
25:27 IN NO WAY, IN ARCHAEOLOGY.
25:29 WITH JORDAN,
25:30 I HOPE IT WILL WORK BETTER.
25:32 TO THE PRESENT THERE IS NOTHING.
25:33 I WONDER IF THE ARABS WILL DO IT
25:36 AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ON JERUSALEM.
25:39 I WONDER.
25:40 I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
25:41 Zola: YOU WOULD HOPE--
25:42 Danny: YES, BUT REMEMBER THAT
25:44 STILL, THE FEELING THAT WE ARE
25:46 PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST HAS
25:48 NOT YET SEEPED TO THEIR MIND.
25:50 THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS
25:52 AND THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
25:55 ♪ ♪
26:25 Myles: WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE
26:26 EXPERTS LIKE DAVID DOLAN AND
26:27 DANNY BAHAT TO EXPLAIN TO US THE
26:29 REALITY ON THE GROUND IN ISRAEL.
26:31 SINCE THE TIME OF THESE RIOTS,
26:34 WHAT'S COME TO LIGHT
26:35 IS THAT IT CAME TO PASS
26:36 DURING BIBI NETANYAHU'S
26:38 FIRST TERM, WHEN HE WAS HAVING
26:40 THE HISTORIC RECONCILIATION
26:42 MEETING WITH HELMUT KOHL,
26:43 THE CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY.
26:45 DURING THAT TIME, THESE RIOTS
26:46 STARTED AT THE WESTERN WALL
26:48 AND NETANYAHU SAID TO ARAFAT,
26:50 "I WILL HAVE TANKS IN RAMALLAH
26:52 IN 15 MINUTES,
26:53 IF YOU DO NOT STOP THE RIOTS."
26:54 THANKFULLY,
26:55 ARAFAT STOPPED THE RIOTS.
26:57 UNFORTUNATELY,
26:58 70 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
27:00 Katharine: THANKFULLY,
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Production Code: 1239

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Play Time: 28:31

Series Year: 2012

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Host: Zola Levitt, Tom McCall, Katharine Weiss, Myles Weiss

Air dates: 2012-Nov-25

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