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Episode: “Bonus Interviews,” Part 2
Extended interviews with individuals appearing in this series: David Parsons the Vice President of the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem, Singer Pat Boone, and Yehuda Glick a member of the Israeli Knesset.
Series: “Return to Eden”
In honor of the modern nation of Israel’s 70th birthday, this series tells the story of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. The Lord bridged the relationship gap (caused by mankind’s sin in the Garden of Eden) by creating a special relationship with a people and a land that eventually led to the Messiah. David and Kirsten Hart present this series featuring teaching and analysis from Dr. Jeffrey Seif, interviews from experts, insights from Sarah Liberman, and music written by Zola Levitt.

Caption transcript for Return to Eden: “Bonus Interviews,” Part 2 (10/10)

  • 00:01 Kirsten Hart: Knesset member Yehuda Glick explains the importance of the Temple Mount. Yehuda and more interviews today
  • 00:10 on "Zola Levitt Presents." ♪♪♪
  • 00:14 male announcer: "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God
  • 00:17 for Israel is, that they might be saved.
  • 00:21 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
  • 00:24 for the same Lord over all is rich unto all
  • 00:26 that call upon him."
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  • 00:49 David Hart: Thank you for joining us today
  • 00:50 on "Zola Levitt Presents," I'm David Hart.
  • 00:52 Kirsten: I'm Kirsten Hart. Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif.
  • 00:54 David: On today's program, we are going to hear from
  • 00:56 Dave Parsons, who's the Vice President
  • 00:58 of International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem.
  • 01:02 Also, we'll have an interview with Pat Boone,
  • 01:05 who was inspired to write the song "Exodus."
  • 01:08 Kirsten: We have another interview with a well-known
  • 01:10 name, Yehuda Glick in Israel.
  • 01:12 He's a Knesset member and he is a bold spokesman for the rights
  • 01:16 of the Temple Mount.
  • 01:19 Jeffrey: And like your husband said, off we go now
  • 01:22 to hear from David Parsons.
  • 01:25 I got to love him and you are gonna love him too.
  • 01:28 ♪♪♪
  • 01:34 Jeffrey: David, it's a pleasure to be with you.
  • 01:35 It's an honor, in fact.
  • 01:37 Could you tell us a little bit about your work with
  • 01:39 the International Christian Embassy?
  • 01:41 David Parsons: Well, I'm originally from North Carolina
  • 01:44 in the U.S., but I've been here in Jerusalem for over 20 years,
  • 01:49 working with the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem.
  • 01:53 And we're considered the world's largest Christian Zionist
  • 01:57 organization because we have such a global reach.
  • 02:01 We have branch offices in over 90 countries and a reach into
  • 02:04 more than 170 countries around the world, tapping into this
  • 02:10 incredible global movement of Christians.
  • 02:14 Unlike past generations, Christians today have a heart,
  • 02:17 a love, a care, and concern for Israel and the Jewish people.
  • 02:21 So, it's been an exciting two decades here in Jerusalem
  • 02:24 representing Christians from around the world to
  • 02:27 the government of Israel and to the people of Israel.
  • 02:30 Jeffrey: There's a lot of Christian enthusiasm for Israel.
  • 02:33 "Enthusiasm" comes from the Greek "enthios,"
  • 02:36 which means "in God."
  • 02:38 Can you tell us a little bit about how you
  • 02:39 understand the motivation?
  • 02:41 David: Well, I think that there's this incredible work
  • 02:45 of the Holy Spirit going on around the world today.
  • 02:48 We have in our generation something unique
  • 02:52 in the move of God, the revival.
  • 02:55 Say in China, more Chinese coming to faith in Jesus
  • 02:59 in our lifetime than in all the generations
  • 03:01 put together before it.
  • 03:03 The same for India, the same for Nigeria,
  • 03:06 the same for, say Brazil.
  • 03:09 A lot of countries that really the gospel never reached
  • 03:13 there before, in our day it's happening.
  • 03:15 And not only that, but these people are also very
  • 03:21 enthusiastic about Israel.
  • 03:23 They see the restoration of Israel and they have a very
  • 03:27 simple explanation for it, that the Israel today
  • 03:30 is the same as the Israel of the Bible.
  • 03:32 God still loves them.
  • 03:34 He's bringing them back and there's this real hunger and
  • 03:36 thirst to know more about it and to come here and visit the land.
  • 03:40 We have--unlike, you know, past generations, Christians would
  • 03:46 walk and travel for, you know, weeks and weeks at a time
  • 03:51 to this very earthly Jerusalem and take these long treks
  • 03:56 in the footsteps of some of the saints in their church.
  • 03:59 Today, it's Christians who can fly here overnight from all over
  • 04:03 the world, wanting to walk in the footsteps of Jesus,
  • 04:07 and the Apostles, and the Hebrew prophets, the patriarchs,
  • 04:12 to let the Bible come alive and also to see
  • 04:14 the modern miracle of Israel.
  • 04:17 I think that's where the enthusiasm is and the work
  • 04:20 of the Holy Spirit that so many multitudes coming to faith
  • 04:26 in Jesus and having a heart for his people.
  • 04:29 I think that they're in love with Israel
  • 04:32 because they're in love with the King of Israel.
  • 04:35 Jeffrey: And where on earth is a better place to recognize
  • 04:38 the King of Israel than in Jerusalem,
  • 04:41 the city of the King of kings?
  • 04:44 The recent move of the U.S. Embassy to the holy city
  • 04:47 has been a bold one and a timely one in many ways.
  • 04:52 I asked David to share his perspective on the move.
  • 04:56 David Parsons: Well, I think, you know, there's a symbolic
  • 04:59 act, but there's a lot of substance to it.
  • 05:02 It's the right thing to do for such a close ally of America,
  • 05:07 and I think it's another example of how Israel is singled out.
  • 05:11 And you'd have to say it's antisemitic that they're the
  • 05:14 only nation that does not--is not allowed the sovereign right
  • 05:18 of every nation to choose its own capital.
  • 05:21 So, this is the right thing to do.
  • 05:23 But I think spiritually it's a new season for Jerusalem.
  • 05:27 The nations are coming back. America is leading them up.
  • 05:31 And I think there's something about the question of Jerusalem
  • 05:34 in our day that is dividing the sheep and goat nations.
  • 05:38 Those countries that truly fear God and honor his Word more than
  • 05:43 they fear and honor men, they're going to make that decision,
  • 05:46 that right and proper decision to return to Jerusalem,
  • 05:50 and I think there are even benefits
  • 05:52 for the church out there.
  • 05:53 We've always seen as God restores things to Israel,
  • 05:57 he restores things to the church as well.
  • 05:59 They go in parallel.
  • 06:01 Jeffrey: It's a good day, is it not?
  • 06:03 David: Amen, and it's also a good day to visit Jerusalem, to
  • 06:08 come see where the Lord walked, and to come see the modern
  • 06:11 miracle of Israel, all that God has restored here,
  • 06:15 bringing people from over a hundred nations,
  • 06:18 making them one nation again with one language,
  • 06:20 reviving a dead language in an Israel
  • 06:24 that is not only surviving against all the challenges,
  • 06:27 and terror, and wars, but it's thriving,
  • 06:29 a high-tech nation giving all sorts of benefits to the world.
  • 06:33 Jeffrey: Thank you very much. David: Thank you.
  • 06:36 ♪♪♪
  • 06:44 David: It's been two years now since God called our son,
  • 06:47 Ryan, to Israel to work at the International Christian Embassy
  • 06:51 with David Parsons.
  • 06:52 We're still kinda blown away that our little boy--sorry,
  • 06:56 Ryan, you're 24 years old--that he was called to Jerusalem,
  • 07:00 just like so many are.
  • 07:01 Jeffrey: Yes, I think we're all called to work
  • 07:03 in the embassy.
  • 07:05 Your son behind the scenes, David Parsons to an extent in
  • 07:08 front of the scenes, our viewers who work behind the scenes
  • 07:12 to keep us in front of the scenes.
  • 07:14 We're all ambassadors at the end of the day.
  • 07:16 God's calling people back to Israel, back to Eden.
  • 07:19 In Genesis they were kicked out, but with Abraham
  • 07:22 there's this desire to return.
  • 07:24 And our viewers, many, many Christian peoples
  • 07:27 wanna go back here.
  • 07:29 Speaking of which, one of the foremost Christian
  • 07:31 musicians--nothing personal there, you guys are good--
  • 07:34 but I'll tell you, Pat Boone is one of the best kitties
  • 07:37 in the litter.
  • 07:38 Loves the Lord, loves the Jewish people.
  • 07:40 Let's hear from him now as he speaks to the issue of Ezekiel
  • 07:44 and the resurrection of the modern nation state of Israel.
  • 07:48 ♪♪♪
  • 07:53 announcer: "This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
  • 07:56 On the day I cleanse you from all your sins,
  • 07:59 I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt.
  • 08:05 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying
  • 08:08 desolate in the sight of all who pass through it.
  • 08:11 They will say, 'This land that was laid waste has become like
  • 08:14 the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins,
  • 08:18 desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.'
  • 08:23 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord
  • 08:27 have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted
  • 08:31 what was desolate.
  • 08:33 I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it."
  • 08:41 Pat Boone: As we studied the Bible,
  • 08:42 I as a kid became aware that everything I was reading about
  • 08:48 seems to have happened in Israel.
  • 08:50 It was all about Jews.
  • 08:52 And as we read through the Old Testament into the New,
  • 08:55 I realized that, as an 11- and 12-year-old kid,
  • 09:00 that if I was gonna be saved, have eternal salvation,
  • 09:04 it was gonna be by accepting the Jewish Messiah.
  • 09:07 I mean, it was clear to me the whole thing was Jewish.
  • 09:11 So at barely 13, I walked down an aisle and confessed my sins,
  • 09:17 such as they were.
  • 09:19 I sinned a lot more and worse later, but confessed my sins,
  • 09:23 and was baptized, and became a Christian, a baptized believer.
  • 09:27 And that has shaped my life, but it's also kept me aware
  • 09:33 that I am, at least by adoption, Jewish.
  • 09:36 Paul says we are adopted or grafted into the family of God's
  • 09:40 chosen people through whom salvation
  • 09:43 to the world would come.
  • 09:46 So, I've had this sense of Jewishness all this time.
  • 09:49 I wear a chai and a magen David.
  • 09:53 And at the health club sometimes where this is all I'm wearing,
  • 09:57 some of the other guys will say, "Are you Jewish?"
  • 10:01 and I'll say, "Yeah."
  • 10:03 "Pat Boone, you're Jewish?"
  • 10:05 Yeah, I'm a Jew. I'm adopted.
  • 10:08 I'm adopted into the family of God's chosen people.
  • 10:10 My rabbi is a carpenter's Son from Nazareth.
  • 10:14 David: Pat Boone's love for the carpenter's Son from
  • 10:16 Nazareth has grown year by year as evidenced by his willingness
  • 10:20 to use his talents for the Lord.
  • 10:23 In a TV series called, "The Nazareth Jesus Knew,"
  • 10:25 he shared his insights into the times and season of the one
  • 10:29 who has so dramatically impacted his life.
  • 10:32 Pat's left his own legacy of course in music,
  • 10:35 not only in America, but in Israel as well.
  • 10:38 His words from the song "Exodus" have left an indelible mark
  • 10:42 on the hearts and souls of a nation.
  • 10:47 ♪ So take my hand and walk this land with me. ♪
  • 10:57 ♪ And walk this golden land with me. ♪
  • 11:05 ♪ Though I am just a man, when you are by my side, ♪
  • 11:16 ♪ with the help of God, I know I can be strong. ♪
  • 11:27 Pat: It was Christmas Eve in 1959 and I'd been to the movie,
  • 11:32 the "Exodus" film, Paul Newman, Eva Marie Saint,
  • 11:35 the story of how Israel came to be.
  • 11:37 I'd read the Leon Uris book, but I'd also read the Moses book
  • 11:40 by the same title, Exodus.
  • 11:43 And I was so moved by the film and by that song,
  • 11:46 "Bom-bom, bom-bom-bom bom-bom-bom-bom-bom."
  • 11:49 Those aren't the words.
  • 11:51 I wrote the words because I sat down on Christmas Eve, listening
  • 11:55 to that melody by Ferrante and Teicher on the instrumental
  • 11:59 record, wanting to sing it but they're weren't any.
  • 12:02 And the publisher said, "There won't be any words.
  • 12:04 It's just an instrumental theme."
  • 12:06 But I wanted to get an idea to submit to some professional
  • 12:09 writer, so Shirley's begging me to help her get the last
  • 12:12 presents under the tree so we can go to bed.
  • 12:15 I said, "Honey, one more time.
  • 12:16 Let me hear this one more time."
  • 12:18 Put the needle on the record. Bom-bom, bom-bom.
  • 12:22 And the words just popped in my head, "This land is mine."
  • 12:28 That's the whole story of Israel in Exodus.
  • 12:31 "This land is mine."
  • 12:32 The next theme, bom-bom-bom-bom, bom-bom,
  • 12:35 "God gave this land to me."
  • 12:39 In 20 minutes, I kept putting the needle over and writing,
  • 12:42 like, dictation.
  • 12:43 It was just--I was getting the lyric as I listened to the
  • 12:46 melody and I wrote down what it was saying to me.
  • 12:50 "Until I die, this land is mine," a personal statement.
  • 12:53 Not trying to capture 2 1/2 million people
  • 12:57 coming across the desert, the walls of Jericho,
  • 12:59 all of that history.
  • 13:01 No, one man or one woman's conviction that this--God had
  • 13:06 created this land for him or her and she was possessing
  • 13:10 or he's possessing it.
  • 13:12 And that made it simple to write and I just finished it,
  • 13:16 the publisher accepted it, Ernest Gold, the composer,
  • 13:19 Otto Preminger, the director/producer of the film,
  • 13:22 and the words became the words of what's like
  • 13:26 the second Jewish national anthem.
  • 13:29 And today, I saw at Yad Vashem the Christmas card on which I
  • 13:36 wrote those words framed on the Wall of the Righteous Gentile.
  • 13:41 For me, telling you what I've already told you about my
  • 13:44 identification with Israel and the Jews, for this Gentile boy
  • 13:48 from Nashville to have written the words
  • 13:51 that is the second Jewish national anthem.
  • 13:54 And the director of Yad Vashem, Shaya Ben Yehuda, be one of
  • 13:59 our speakers at our big event celebrating the 70th anniversary
  • 14:03 of the modern state, he said, "We're trying to get every
  • 14:07 Jewish child in Israel to know those words you wrote."
  • 14:10 "This land is mine. God gave this land to me.
  • 14:13 And when the morning sun reveals her hills and plains,
  • 14:15 I see a land where children can run free."
  • 14:18 And they want every Jewish child to, if they can't sing the song,
  • 14:22 at least know those words by heart.
  • 14:24 "Until I die, this land is mine."
  • 14:27 So, I mean, I just feel like God put his hand on me and gave me
  • 14:32 the words, and I was just thanking God a little while ago
  • 14:36 again for the privilege of writing the words.
  • 14:41 They're the words of the anthem.
  • 14:42 They'll be singing it after I'm gone.
  • 14:44 But that Christmas card on which I wrote the words is there
  • 14:48 permanently on the Wall of the Righteous Gentile.
  • 14:53 ♪ If I must fight, ♪
  • 14:57 ♪ I'll fight to make this land our own. ♪
  • 15:03 ♪ Until I die ♪
  • 15:11 ♪ This land is mine. ♪
  • 15:31 announcer: Our resource this week, the series,
  • 15:33 "Return to Eden," on DVD.
  • 15:35 In this ten-program series, Dr. Jeffrey Seif uncovers
  • 15:38 how the Lord bridged the relationship gap caused
  • 15:41 by mankind's sin in the Garden of Eden
  • 15:44 by creating a special relationship with a people
  • 15:47 and a land that eventually led to the Messiah.
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  • 17:22 Jeffrey: Yes, and speaking of support, you're gonna hear from
  • 17:25 someone that we support as our friend Chaim Malespin interviews
  • 17:30 someone that someone tried to kill, literally.
  • 17:34 Yehuda Glick, a member of the Knesset in Israel,
  • 17:38 they tried to assassinate him.
  • 17:40 They wanted to put him out. We wanted to bring him forward.
  • 17:43 You're gonna love him and you're gonna find out why now.
  • 17:47 ♪♪♪
  • 17:56 Chaim Malespin: We're here in the eternal and undivided
  • 17:58 capital of Israel, Jerusalem, the center of the world,
  • 18:01 with member of Knesset, Yehuda Glick.
  • 18:03 It's such a pleasure to be with you, shalom.
  • 18:05 Yehuda Glick: Shalom.
  • 18:07 Shalom to you and shalom to all the people watching us
  • 18:09 from the eyeball of the world, from the origin of
  • 18:12 energy and light of the world, Jerusalem.
  • 18:15 Chaim: Amen, amen.
  • 18:16 You are one of the most outspoken members of Knesset
  • 18:19 for the Temple Mount.
  • 18:20 Why is that?
  • 18:23 Yehuda: As you probably have heard,
  • 18:25 there's a very good bestseller.
  • 18:26 It's called the Bible. You may have heard of the book.
  • 18:28 It's a very much recommended to read it.
  • 18:31 And there are millions of people are the world who believe in it,
  • 18:34 hundreds of millions.
  • 18:36 And according to that book, which I happen to be one of
  • 18:38 those hundreds of millions, the Temple Mount is
  • 18:42 the holiest place in the world.
  • 18:43 It is the place where God rests his divine presence,
  • 18:46 not as a place to be hidden, but as a place to be
  • 18:51 the origin of energy to the world,
  • 18:53 as a place where the house of prayer for all nations.
  • 18:56 as the place where the Word coming from Jerusalem,
  • 19:01 from Zion, comes out of there.
  • 19:03 Chaim: Do you believe that the Temple Mount should be
  • 19:05 a house of prayer for all nations,
  • 19:07 including the Jewish people?
  • 19:09 Yehuda: It's not I believe, it's Prophet Isaiah said,
  • 19:12 "All nations."
  • 19:13 And if he says, "All nations," he includes everybody, whether
  • 19:15 they're from Korea, Indonesia, or Mexico, Brazil, Italy,
  • 19:20 or Luxembourg.
  • 19:22 They're all nations.
  • 19:23 God is one and he created all the nations.
  • 19:26 He created all of mankind and he wants us all to be different and
  • 19:30 worship him together through the place where he chose to rest his
  • 19:33 divine presence, and that is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
  • 19:36 Chaim: In one of the largest publications here in Jerusalem,
  • 19:39 you were referred to as the most dangerous man
  • 19:42 in the Middle East.
  • 19:44 How would you respond to that?
  • 19:45 Yehuda: Definitely make sure it's a little bit accurate.
  • 19:48 They quoted what some Chief of Police had said a few years ago.
  • 19:52 At the time, those people dealing with the Temple Mount
  • 19:57 were considered really very peculiar.
  • 19:59 We were just a small minority,
  • 20:01 but thank God things have changed.
  • 20:03 And today, just in the last poll which came out this week in
  • 20:07 Israel, more than 70% of the Israeli population believe
  • 20:11 that there should be freedom of religion for all
  • 20:13 on Temple Mount, including Jews, of course.
  • 20:16 And Christians should be able to come and pray in Temple Mount,
  • 20:19 because today the Temple Mount is--people can co-visit there,
  • 20:23 but only if you're Muslim, you're allowed to pray there.
  • 20:26 And we believe that the Temple Mount is created by God for all
  • 20:29 nations, and therefore we believe there should be freedom
  • 20:32 of prayer for all, and that's pretty much what I'm strongly
  • 20:35 involved here in my activity before I became a member of
  • 20:39 Knesset in May 2015, and it's been my deal ever since
  • 20:45 I've been a member of Knesset, to come out
  • 20:49 and call for support for that idea,
  • 20:52 of recognizing Jerusalem and recognizing the Temple Mount
  • 20:55 as a world center for shalom.
  • 20:58 And I always say shalom is not only peace, shalom is harmony.
  • 21:01 Shalom is inclusiveness.
  • 21:03 Shalom is having all the peoples united
  • 21:07 around the one and only God.
  • 21:09 Chaim: You've been doing an amazing job
  • 21:11 with this sensitive issue.
  • 21:12 Yehuda: I'm not doing it, it's all his.
  • 21:14 It's all his.
  • 21:15 Chaim: Christians are ever-growing in support
  • 21:17 for Israel, encouraged by Netanyahu, the Prime Minister.
  • 21:19 Is this good or dangerous?
  • 21:21 Yehuda: Look, we are living in biblical era.
  • 21:26 In the past, people would come to Israel, and visit, and see,
  • 21:29 and walk in the footsteps of the stories that took place
  • 21:31 in the Bible.
  • 21:33 Today, in the past century, we're walking in the footsteps
  • 21:35 of the words of the prophets coming out of the book
  • 21:37 and materializing.
  • 21:39 And the very establishment of the state of Israel is only--
  • 21:43 the only way you can explain it is a godly phenomenon.
  • 21:46 And the recognition of people from all over the world,
  • 21:49 including Christians, millions of Christians from all over
  • 21:51 the world, recognizing Israel is also an implementation
  • 21:56 of the words of the prophets.
  • 21:58 So yes, when Isaiah said that all the nations will be facing
  • 22:03 Jerusalem to receive the Word of God, he was including Christians
  • 22:08 from Texas and Oklahoma as well.
  • 22:10 Chaim: And we know all nations will come
  • 22:12 for the Feast of Tabernacles here to Jerusalem.
  • 22:14 Do you see a different unifying, uniting with Israel type of
  • 22:20 Christianity emerging, maybe different from a historical
  • 22:24 separating from Israel Christianity?
  • 22:27 Yehuda: I'm not a big professional in Christianity,
  • 22:29 but I can definitely think it's a new wave of the Word of God
  • 22:33 coming to the world, where when the State of Israel was
  • 22:36 established, it would be something impossible to think
  • 22:38 of that Christians around the world would recognize Israel.
  • 22:41 And today, we definitely see it as a big wave.
  • 22:45 And by the way, we're starting to see the same thing happening
  • 22:48 among moderate Muslim leadership, and I believe that
  • 22:55 is something that if God promised it, it's gonna happen.
  • 22:57 It's happening.
  • 22:58 Chaim: Can I ask you a more personal question?
  • 23:01 What are the circumstances surrounding your getting shot,
  • 23:04 your attempted murder, and has that aided, hindered,
  • 23:08 or actually increased your life's call for standing up
  • 23:12 for the Temple Mount and God's purposes there.
  • 23:14 Yehuda: On October 29, 2014, God saved my life after there
  • 23:19 was an attempt to assassinate me when I was dealing exactly
  • 23:22 what I was talking about just now, connecting the world
  • 23:25 to Jerusalem of peace, Jerusalem of shalom.
  • 23:29 And I was critically injured, four bullets to the center
  • 23:32 of my body, point blank, one foot away.
  • 23:38 People--at the beginning, the doctors had called my family
  • 23:40 to come and say goodbye.
  • 23:42 But God had other plans, and if God decided to save my life,
  • 23:46 it means that he felt that my mission has to continue.
  • 23:51 And therefore, as soon as I joined the Knesset, as I said,
  • 23:53 in May 2016, one of the first things I was doing is teaching
  • 23:59 about the Jerusalem covenant, which is the covenant which
  • 24:01 recognizes the fact that Jerusalem is a house
  • 24:05 of prayer for all nations.
  • 24:07 Because the person who shot me didn't shoot me
  • 24:09 because of the color my hair, he believed in what's
  • 24:11 the most dangerous thing for the world today, exclusiveness.
  • 24:15 People who believe that if you don't believe God
  • 24:17 the way I want, I can shoot you.
  • 24:19 We believe God is inclusive.
  • 24:22 Chaim: I feel many tour guides here in Israel don't
  • 24:24 express to Christian groups that visit the importance
  • 24:27 of the Temple Mount in Yeshua's ministry, such as when he says,
  • 24:30 "I am the water of life."
  • 24:31 Yehuda: It's interesting.
  • 24:33 When--in the past, when people were speaking the Muslim
  • 24:36 propaganda against Israel, were speaking about the Temple Mount,
  • 24:39 "There was never a temple there."
  • 24:41 And then one of the times, Arafat said that
  • 24:44 to Bill Clinton, the President of the United States,
  • 24:46 and he said, "Are you crazy?
  • 24:48 If there was no temple, there was no Christianity, because
  • 24:50 Christianity also begins when Jesus is on the Temple Mount
  • 24:54 and saying to those moneychangers,
  • 24:56 'Guys, you are here desecrating the Temple Mount.'"
  • 25:00 So, when King David purchased the place and named it the
  • 25:04 capital of God in the world, and his son Solomon builds
  • 25:08 the temple there, and the first temple is there,
  • 25:10 the second temple is there.
  • 25:12 Zerubabel, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Herod, building that
  • 25:16 beautiful temple there, all there on the Temple Mount.
  • 25:21 So, it's the eyeball, the heart of the universe.
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  • 25:34 Kirsten: We hope that you felt Yehuda's passion for God
  • 25:39 and what God is doing through all people, but still doing
  • 25:45 through the Jewish nation and Jewish people.
  • 25:48 Knesset member, it was life-changing.
  • 25:50 David: Yes, "passion" is the word.
  • 25:52 What's going on in Israel, in Jerusalem right now, there's
  • 25:55 so much excitement and we heard it from him today.
  • 25:59 Does that relate at all, do you think, Dr. Seif, to our series,
  • 26:02 "Return to Eden"?
  • 26:04 Jeffrey: I think so.
  • 26:05 By the way, the word "passion," it's the same word for "pain"
  • 26:07 and "pleasure" in the Greek.
  • 26:08 It's rather interesting.
  • 26:10 And when it comes to this vista behind us, Jerusalem,
  • 26:12 it evokes pain and pleasure.
  • 26:14 I know, inasmuch as it's spellbinding in a spiritual,
  • 26:18 good sense, I should say, probably I could find a better
  • 26:21 word, to hear Glick speak, similarly whenever I look at
  • 26:26 this vista in Jerusalem, it always has me transfixed.
  • 26:31 And that's really the story behind the story of the call,
  • 26:36 the return to go back to Eden.
  • 26:38 It's that getting drawn back to the garden place.
  • 26:43 And the temple that stood right over yonder was the place,
  • 26:47 if you will.
  • 26:48 Rather fascinating.
  • 26:50 The temple itself, as we observed in the series,
  • 26:53 is a reconstructed figurative picture of what was once Eden.
  • 26:58 It's a great story.
  • 27:00 Kirsten: That everyone is drawn to and will continue in
  • 27:02 that day when the Lord sits there, soon, back in the temple.
  • 27:06 Jeffrey: Yes, very soon. We're all drawn that way.
  • 27:09 And thank you for coming our way.
  • 27:12 And as you go, sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
  • 27:17 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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Episodes in this series

  1. Out of Eden
  2. Back to Eden
  3. Recreating Paradise
  4. Eden and Old Testament History
  5. Eden and New Testament Prophecy
  6. Eden and Israel
  7. Jesus and the Return to Eden
  8. Paradise Restored
  9. Bonus Interviews, Part 1
  10. Bonus Interviews, Part 2

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