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Series: “Voices From Israel”
This ten-program series not only traverses the physical land of Israel with a group of pilgrims visiting Biblical sites, but also scans Israel’s wide political landscape with the perspectives of government officials, so-called settlers and even Palestinians.
Episode: “Stand For Truth”
Our series begins with the tour group’s arrival and visit to Ein Karem, Ramat Rachel and the Western Wall. Ruth Matar of Women in Green tells Zola that settlers are not extremists, but normal people with a cause.

Caption transcript for Voices From Israel: “Stand For Truth” (1/10)

  • 00:06 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR HERITAGE.
  • 00:09 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR DREAM.
  • 00:11 PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE.
  • 00:13 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
  • 00:15 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED.
  • 00:19 WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE THE WORLD CHANGE.
  • 00:22 GOD'S PURPOSES FOR ISRAEL JUST MARCH ON, DON'T THEY?
  • 00:32 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN. WELCOME TO OUR NEW SERIES, "VOICES FROM ISRAEL".
  • 00:37 THESE ARE VOICES THAT WERE FILMED AND TAPED IN ISRAEL.
  • 00:42 ALL KINDS OF VOICES, FROM FORMER PRIME MINISTERS AND THE MAYOR OF JERUSALEM
  • 00:45 TO ORDINARY CITIZENS IN THE STREETS, VISITORS, PILGRIMS, CHRISTIANS, ZIONISTS ALL.
  • 00:52 ZIONISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO FAVOR THE JEWS GOING BACK TO RESETTLE THE BIBLICAL LAND.
  • 00:56 AMONG THOSE ARE CHRISTIANS, FINE, THEY ARE CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS.
  • 01:00 WITH US IS TONY DERRICK.
  • 01:02 TONY, YOU'RE THE GUY ON THE PHONE IN OUR OFFICE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ISRAEL.
  • 01:07 HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
  • 01:08 ZOLA, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MY EIGHTH TIME TO GO.
  • 01:12 WHAT THE PEOPLE WILL SEE IN THIS PROGRAM IS, AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED,
  • 01:17 A VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT FEEL THEIR CALLING TO COME TO ISRAEL,
  • 01:22 WHETHER IT'S THE JEWISH PERSON THAT'S COMING BACK HOME TO THEIR HOMELAND
  • 01:25 OR THE TRAVELER THAT JUST SENSES FROM GOD THIS IS THEIR MISSION,
  • 01:29 THIS IS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, THIS IS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
  • 01:32 AS THE ISRAELIS SAY DURING THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT, THE PEOPLE COME
  • 01:40 AND THEY WANT TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THERE, THE LAND AND ALSO SEE IT FOR THEMSELVES.
  • 01:45 SOMETIMES ISRAELIS SAY, BE AMBASSADORS FOR US WHEN YOU GO HOME.
  • 01:51 PEOPLE TEND TO DO THAT, DON'T THEY?
  • 01:54 WHAT BETTER WAY TO BE AN AMBAS- SADOR THAN TO HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.
  • 02:00 TAKE THOSE EXPERIENCES WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO
  • 02:03 BECAUSE BY DEFINITION AN AMBASSADOR IS ONE WHO GOES OUT IN THE NAME OF SOMEONE.
  • 02:07 IN THIS INSTANCE, GOES OUT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD, THE MESSIAH
  • 02:11 INTO THE WORLD TO TEACH THOSE THAT THAT IS THE PROMISED LAND.
  • 02:15 GOD CHOSE THE PEOPLE AND THROUGH THAT HE BROUGHT THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.
  • 02:19 AMONG THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIAN, ZIONIST AMBASSADORS WERE PETER AND PAUL, I GUESS.
  • 02:25 THE MISSIONS TO THE EMPIRE.
  • 02:27 WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LOCATION OUT TO EIN KAREM.
  • 02:29 YOU'LL SEE TIRED PEOPLE GETTING OFF THE AIRPLANE
  • 02:32 AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE OF EIN KAREM.
  • 02:36 THEY ARRIVE AT RAMAT RACHEL. NOW TO LOCATION IN ISRAEL.
  • 02:40 BEN GURION AIRPORT IN TEL AVIV IS THE PRIMARY ENTRY POINT FOR THOSE FLYING TO ISRAEL,
  • 02:49 WHETHER THEY'RE MAKING ALIYAH BY MOVING TO ISRAEL,
  • 02:52 RETURNING HOME AFTER TRAVELING ABROAD OR RECEIVING A SPECIAL WELCOME.
  • 03:01 THESE YOUNG MEN SINGING IN HEBREW ARE WAITING EXPECTANTLY FOR THEIR FRIEND TO ARRIVE.
  • 03:06 [MUSIC - SINGING]
  • 03:25 THESE SMILING FACES ARE THE FIRST OF OUR ARRIVALS.
  • 03:28 THEY'VE MADE IT TO THE PROMISED LAND.
  • 03:31 FOR SOME IT'S A RETURN VISIT, PERHAPS THEIR SECOND OR THIRD PILGRIMAGE,
  • 03:35 WHILE FOR OTHERS IT'S A FIRST TIME, THE TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
  • 03:39 KEN ASKED FOR THEIR FIRST IMPRESSIONS.
  • 03:42 DID YOU HAVE GOOD FLIGHT? >>YES. >>YES?
  • 03:45 FIRST TIME TO ISRAEL? >>YEAH.
  • 03:47 HOW DO YOU FEEL? >>I DON'T KNOW. IT'S EXCITING.
  • 03:53 AFTER THE BAGGAGE IS LOADED ONTO THE BUS OUR ISRAELI GUIDE INTRODUCES HIMSELF.
  • 04:00 MY NAME IS ILAN. ILAN - I L A N, ILAN, AND I'LL BE YOUR GUIDE TODAY.
  • 04:06 I'LL TAKE YOU TO JERUSALEM.
  • 04:10 WE'RE GOING TO BE IN JERUSALEM IN ABOUT ONE HOUR.
  • 04:16 WE'LL HAVE A SHORT BREAK FOR LUNCH IN EMMAUS.
  • 04:18 I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A PLEASANT VISIT HERE IN THE HOLY LAND.
  • 04:26 I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP FEELINGS FOR YOUR COMING IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME FOR ISRAEL.
  • 04:33 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
  • 04:36 [APPLAUSE]
  • 04:38 AS WE'RE GETTING UNDERWAY, WE ASK SOME PEOPLE THEIR THOUGHTS AS THEIR TRIP WAS JUST BEGINNING
  • 04:44 WELL, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
  • 04:49 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED
  • 04:52 AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ON MY WATCH.
  • 04:54 THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT WHY I'VE COME OVER.
  • 04:57 THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR ME TO COME OVER HERE AND SUPPORT ISRAEL.
  • 05:00 AND YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS OVER HERE?
  • 05:03 NO. I THINK IT'S PART OF GOD'S WILL FOR US TO COME OVER HERE
  • 05:06 AND GIVE OUR SUPPORT AND WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE'RE IN HIS HANDS.
  • 05:10 AFTER THE BUS TRAVELS TO A NEARBY LUNCH STOP, SOME OF THE OTHERS
  • 05:15 GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT TRAVELING TO ISRAEL UNDER LESS THAN IDEAL CONDITIONS.
  • 05:21 I WANTED TO COME BACK AGAIN FROM THE DAY I WAS HERE BEFORE.
  • 05:24 I KNEW I SOMEDAY WANTED TO COME BACK.
  • 05:27 I THINK NOW AS MUCH AS ANY TIME WAS A GOOD TIME, A GOOD TIME TO COME BACK TO SEE.
  • 05:35 I KNOW WHAT THE NEWS TELLS YOU IS NOT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING OVER HERE,
  • 05:40 BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE HERE IN 1996 WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE TUNNEL
  • 05:43 INTO THE WALL, AT HOME EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE IN BIG TROUBLE.
  • 05:48 BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER HERE.
  • 05:50 IT WAS JUST A PEACEFUL AND AS CALM AS CAN BE.
  • 05:55 ON THE OTHERSIDE, JUST BEING HERE.
  • 05:58 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, REALLY, JUST BEING HERE.
  • 06:02 ANY PLACE HERE IS FINE, JUST PLANT ME.
  • 06:04 I'VE ALREADY TOLD THE PEOPLE AT WORK, ONE OF THESE DAYS I WON'T COME BACK.
  • 06:10 AS WE WERE GOING UP TO JERUSALEM OUR FIRST STOP IS IN EIN KAREM.
  • 06:16 THIS IS THE CHURCH OF ST. JOHN. YOU CAN SEE NOW STRAIGHT AHEAD.
  • 06:19 TODAY THIS SMALL ARTISTS COLONY IS ALMOST A SUBURB OF JERUSALEM,
  • 06:23 YET ILAN TELLS US THIS PLACE HAS HISTORY GOING BACK TO BIBLE TIMES.
  • 06:29 YOU'RE IN A VERY SHORT DISTANCE FROM JERUSALEM; ABOUT 2 HOURS WALK FROM THE OLD CITY.
  • 06:36 NOW THIS SPRING NAMED AFTER MARY, TELLS YOU THAT THIS IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF JOHN.
  • 06:42 IT'S NAMED AFTER MARY; EIN KAREM IS NAMED AFTER MARY.
  • 06:46 ELIZABETH, THE MOTHER OF JOHN, WAS THE COUSIN OF MARY.
  • 06:53 WHEN THEY WERE PREGNANT, MARY CAME TO VISIT ELIZABETH HERE IN EIN KAREM.
  • 07:02 MARY CAME ALL THE WAY FROM GALILEE TO JERUSALEM TO VISIT HER COUSIN ELIZABETH.
  • 07:10 IT'S A LONG WAY. IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 7 OR 8 DAYS TO WALK.
  • 07:16 THERE WAS A CHURCH HERE IN THE VILLAGE THAT COMMEMORATES THE VISIT OF MARY.
  • 07:21 IT'S CALLED THE CHURCH OF THE VISITATION.
  • 07:26 THE CHURCH WAS DEDICATED TO MARY AND ALSO THE SPRING OF THE VILLAGE IS DEDICATED TO MARY.
  • 07:34 LEAVING EIN KAREM, WE DRIVE TO KIBBUTZ RAMAT RACHEL,
  • 07:40 LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF JERUSALEM, OVERLOOKING BETHLEHEM.
  • 07:44 ♪ ♪
  • 07:58 IT'S HERE THAT WE RECEIVE THE TRADITIONAL GLASS OF ORANGE JUICE UPON ARRIVAL.
  • 08:05 AFTER CHECKING IN, WE HEAD FOR JERUSALEM'S OLD CITY.
  • 08:09 DAVID'S TOWER OR CITADEL STANDS AS A LANDMARK AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE JAFFA GATE.
  • 08:16 THE SITES AND SOUNDS OF ISRAEL BEGIN TO WEAVE A TAPESTRY
  • 08:19 THAT WILL BE CHERISHED BY THE PILGRIMS FOR YEARS TO COME.
  • 08:25 ♪ ♪
  • 10:00 THANK YOU, TONY, FOR THAT INTERESTING VOICE OVER OF THE BEGINNING OF OUR TRIP.
  • 10:06 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
  • 10:07 IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE, ZOLA. THANK YOU.
  • 10:09 ON ONE OF THESE TRIPS I SAT DOWN WITH RUTH MATAR.
  • 10:12 SHE'S A DYNAMIC PERSONALITY. SHE'S AN AMERICAN.
  • 10:16 SHE'S NOT A YOUNG LADY. SHE HAS A FEW YEARS.
  • 10:21 SHE JUST TOOK IT IN HER HEART TO BE A REAL PROMOTER OF ISRAEL AND, IF NECESSARY,
  • 10:27 AN OPPOSER OF THE GOVERNMENT IN POWER OR OF POLITICIANS WHO DON'T SEE IT HER WAY.
  • 10:34 SHE HAS BECOME A FORCE. SHE HAS FOUNDED A GROUP CALLED, THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
  • 10:39 THEY GO AROUND IN GREEN T-SHIRTS AND THEY CARRY SIGNS AND POSTERS.
  • 10:44 THE NAME IS A PLAY ON THE IDEA OF THE GREEN LINE,
  • 10:48 WHICH IS THE LINE BETWEEN ISRAEL PROPER AND THE TERRITORIES, WHICH IS GREEN
  • 10:54 BECAUSE THE ISRAELIS UP TO THAT LINE HAVE CULTIVATED IT AND GROWN GRASS AND CROPS.
  • 10:59 THEN IT'S UNCULTIVATED FROM THERE.
  • 11:01 SO THE AIR OR EVEN FROM THE GROUND YOU CAN SEE A LINE OF GREEN OF A CERTAIN DEMARCATION.
  • 11:07 THE WOMEN IN GREEN ARE ON THE COMPUTER. THEY'RE REALLY TERRIFIC.
  • 11:11 AS I SAY, I HAD A CHANCE TO ASK HER THOUGHTS.
  • 11:15 RUTH MATAR, IT'S AN HONOR TO WEAR THE HAT OF THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
  • 11:20 THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ONE FOR ME.
  • 11:22 THIS IS NOT JUST TEMPORARY, ZOLA, THAT YOU'RE WEARING IT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
  • 11:26 IT MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOW A MAN IN GREEN
  • 11:29 AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT WHAT THE WOMEN IN GREEN ARE FIGHTING FOR,
  • 11:33 WHICH IS VERY SIMPLY THAT LAND OF ISRAEL FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
  • 11:40 THE OTHER THING IS THAT TAPESTRY THAT I HAVE IN MY LIVING ROOM, WHICH MY SON AND I DESIGNED.
  • 11:48 THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL QUOTATION AND THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY BELIEVE IN.
  • 11:53 IT'S FROM ISAIAH AND IT SAYS,
  • 11:56 "FOR JERUSALEM'S SAKE I WILL NOT BE SILENT".
  • 12:01 THAT'S IT. WOMEN IN GREEN ARE NOT SILENT, EVER.
  • 12:05 NO, YOU'RE NOT. I SEE YOUR EDITORIALS, CARTOONS ALL THE TIME IN THE JERUSALEM POST.
  • 12:11 YOU HAVE A RADIO PROGRAM. I HAVE THE SAME TAPESTRY IN MY LIVING ROOM.
  • 12:15 I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
  • 12:16 MY WIFE IS A WOMAN IN GREEN, A SUPPORTER.
  • 12:19 I'M EVEN HAPPIER TO HEAR THAT.
  • 12:22 LOOK, THIS IS EASY FOR ME. I DO BELIEVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL IS FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 12:27 WASN'T THERE A GROUP BEFORE YOU CALLED WOMEN IN BLACK?
  • 12:31 OH, GOODNESS, YOU KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT,
  • 12:35 WHICH WAS ACTUALLY EVEN BEFORE THE OSLO ACCORDS WERE SIGNED.
  • 12:40 MR. RABIN WAS ELECTED IN 1992
  • 12:43 AND WE STARTED TO SEE IT GOING DOWN HILL.
  • 12:48 HE SAID, I'LL NEVER TALK TO PALESTINIANS; I WILL NEVER GO DOWN FROM THE GOLAN.
  • 12:53 AS SOON AS HE WAS ELECTED, HE STARTED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO DO.
  • 13:03 WE STARTED SMALL DEMONSTRATIONS, JUST 10 TO 12 LADIES, WHATEVER.
  • 13:11 IT HAD TO BE PRETTY POWERFUL. WE WERE MIDDLE-CLASS LADIES.
  • 13:15 JEWISH MOTHERS, RIGHT? >>WE REALLY WERE NOT THE POWER THEN.
  • 13:19 THEN WE FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION AND THE REASON WE FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION
  • 13:27 WAS THAT WE WENT TO A DEMON- STRATION OUTSIDE OF MR. RABIN'S HOUSE HERE IN JERUSALEM.
  • 13:35 THE DEMONSTRATION WAS, WE DID NOT WANT HIM TO GIVE UP THE GOLAN
  • 13:41 BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER SAID BY THE RABIN GOVERNMENT OR, I'M AFRAID, ANY OTHER ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
  • 13:49 THE GOLAN IS GIVEN TO US IN THE BIBLE.
  • 13:53 TWO AND A HALF TRIBES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE GOLAN.
  • 13:57 YES, YOU MEAN THE GOLAN HEIGHTS, WHICH ARE MENTIONED ALL THE TIME IN THE NEWS.
  • 14:01 IT WAS JEWISH ALL THE TIME AND OUR, NOT THE WOMEN IN GREEN, BUT THE GOVERNMENTS BIG MISTAKE
  • 14:08 AND IT STILL IS THE BIG MISTAKE IS TO SAY WE NEED IT FOR SECURITY
  • 14:14 OR WE NEED IT BECAUSE OF THE WATER OR SOMETHING LIKE.
  • 14:18 THAT'S NOT THE REASON, BECAUSE THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COULD SAY
  • 14:21 WE'RE GOING TO GRANT YOU SECURITY; WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOU, WHATEVER.
  • 14:26 THE REASON WE NEEDED THE GOLAN IS BECAUSE WHAT SENATOR INHOFE SAID, BECAUSE GOD SAID SO.
  • 14:34 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. WE ARE NOT TIMID TO SAY THAT WE BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.
  • 14:41 YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SO FASHIONABLE NOW-A-DAYS, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.
  • 14:46 IT'S PRETTY FASHIONABLE WITH OUR VIEWERS.
  • 14:49 YES, I THINK WITH YOUR VIEWERS IT'S FASHIONABLE AND I THINK THAT IS VERY ENCOURAGING
  • 14:54 BECAUSE I THINK, AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO THINK IN OUR NATIONALIST CAMP
  • 15:00 IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ALLIANCE BETWEEN BIBLE BELIEVING JEWS AND BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS.
  • 15:08 OH, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 15:09 WHY WOULD ANYONE IN ISRAEL ANYHOW,
  • 15:12 THINK ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT SINCE THIS IS A JEWISH LAND FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL,
  • 15:20 FROM WHEN GOD GAVE IT TO ABRAHAM AND THE WHOLE WORLD CAN READ THAT IN THE SCRIPTURES
  • 15:25 AND THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS VERIFY THAT THAT'S A VERY OLD LAND GRANT INDEED, WHY WOULD ANY--
  • 15:31 I CAN SEE WHY THE ARABS SEE IT SOME OTHER WAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE,
  • 15:37 BUT WHY WOULD A JEWISH PERSON STANDING HERE IN THE LAND SAY WE NEED TO GIVE PART OF IT AWAY.
  • 15:42 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT EVER GOT STARTED.
  • 15:45 I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT OFTEN.
  • 15:50 I THINK IT'S GHETTO MENTALITY THAT PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST
  • 15:57 ARE PEOPLE WHO CAME FROM ARAB COUNTRIES WHERE THEY WERE REALLY PUT DOWN.
  • 16:02 THEY WERE DEMIS, THEY WEREN'T REAL PEOPLE.
  • 16:05 SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. >>SECOND CLASS, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 16:08 SOMEHOW, UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THIS GENERATION FEELS
  • 16:16 THAT IF WE ONLY PLEASE THE GENTILES THEY'RE GOING TO LOVE US.
  • 16:22 BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOVE US FOR THAT.
  • 16:24 IN FACT I THINK THEY LOVED US MORE WHEN WE WON THE 1967 WAR
  • 16:28 AND JUST SAID WE'RE HERE TO STAY. >>THAT'S TRUE.
  • 16:33 AND GOD GAVE US A MIRACLE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THE MIND SET HAS TO BE CHANGED.
  • 16:41 I SOMETIMES THINK ABOUT THE JEWS IN THE DESERT AND GOD DECIDED NOT TO LET THEM IN
  • 16:51 WHEN THE 12 SPIES WENT AND THEY SAID, IT'S A WONDERFUL LAND,
  • 16:57 BUT THEY'RE GIANTS AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
  • 17:00 SO THAT WHOLE GENERATION, THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN.
  • 17:07 THAT'S RIGHT, THEY SHOWED THIS FEAR.
  • 17:10 I'M AFRAID MAYBE THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US.
  • 17:13 SO YOU'RE A GRANDMOTHER AND ONE OF THE MOST POTENT FORCES AGAINST THIS GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES,
  • 17:19 AT LEAST THE POLICIES OF GIVING OUT LAND OR MOVING SETTLERS AND SO ON.
  • 17:23 WITH SETTLEMENTS, I SOMETIMES THINK IT'S NOT THE JEWS THAT ARE SETTLERS HERE.
  • 17:31 THIS IS JEWISH LAND AND ALWAYS WAS. THE OTHERS ARE THE SETTLERS.
  • 17:34 IN OTHER WORDS, IN AMERICA WHEN THE PIONEERS WENT OUT WEST THEY FOUND INDIANS.
  • 17:39 THEY DIDN'T REPORT TO WASHINGTON, THERE'S SOME INDIANS SETTLERS OUR HERE.
  • 17:43 THEY WERE THE NATIVES. THEY KNEW THAT.
  • 17:45 WE STILL CALL THEM THE NATIVE AMERICANS.
  • 17:47 WE DON'T CALL THEM SETTLERS AND WE DON'T SAY THEY ARE OCCUPYING THE LAND. WE NEVER SAID THAT.
  • 17:53 EVEN THE WORD SETTLERS HAS BECOME A DEROGATORY TERM HERE, A SETTLER AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 17:59 AS I SAID, I KNOW 2 PLACES IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT SAYS YOU ARE ENJOINED TO SETTLE THE LAND.
  • 18:12 IN MY TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE IT SAYS, SETTLE.
  • 18:16 SOMETHING THAT I OFTEN QUOTED WHEN I SPOKE IN THE UNITED STATES RECENTLY,
  • 18:22 I QUOTED LEVITICUS WHERE IT SAYS,
  • 18:25 THIS LAND SHALL NOT BE SOLD IN PERPETUITY,
  • 18:29 WHICH WAS SO "ON THE NAIL", BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING,
  • 18:33 SELLING OUT HOMELAND FOR WHATEVER, FOR A PIECE OF PAPER OR WHATEVER.
  • 18:41 BECAUSE THE LORD SAYS THE LAND IS MINE AND YOU ARE JUST SOJOURNERS AND SETTLERS HERE.
  • 18:50 I LOVE THAT - SETTLERS HERE.
  • 18:57 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 19:03 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
  • 19:10 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
  • 19:18 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, PLEASE CALL 1-800-WONDERS.
  • 19:28 CAN YOU TRANSLATE THIS HAT FOR ME AND FOR OUR AUDIENCE?
  • 19:32 YES, IT SAYS, [SPEAKING HEBREW] - ISRAEL IS OUR HEART.
  • 19:38 ISRAEL IS OUR HEART. >>RIGHT.
  • 19:40 SO IT'S PERFECTLY ALRIGHT FOR YOU TO WEAR THAT HAT WHEREVER YOU GO.
  • 19:44 IT'S NOT A RADICAL, EXTREMIST MESSAGE AT ALL.
  • 19:47 SOME PEOPLE HERE WOULD THINK SO. >>YES.
  • 19:51 NOW, YOU HAVE A REPUTATION AS A RADICAL EXTREMISTS.
  • 19:54 YOU GET IT FROM CARTOONS THAT YOU PUBLISH.
  • 19:57 I LOVE YOUR CARTOONS THAT COME OUT IN THE INTERNATIONAL EDITION OF THE JERUSALEM POST.
  • 20:01 IT COMES TO MY HOME. >>THEY'RE NOT EXTREME.
  • 20:02 THEY'RE TRUE ON THE BUTTON. THEY'RE TRUE ON THE BUTTON.
  • 20:05 WE CAN SHOW SOME OF THOSE. YOUR CARTOONIST, OLEG, IS--
  • 20:10 RIGHT, A VERY INTERESTING PERSON.
  • 20:12 YOU KNOW, OLEG WAS A RUSSIAN IMMIGRANT.
  • 20:17 HE WAS ACTUALLY A MEDICAL DOCTOR, NOSE, EAR AND THROAT MAN.
  • 20:22 WHEN HE CAME HERE HE THOUGHT, WELL, HE WAS TAKING THE EXAM TO BE A DOCTOR,
  • 20:28 BUT THEN HE THOUGHT, I REALLY ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A CARTOONIST.
  • 20:32 SO THIS IS MY CHANCE.
  • 20:33 HE WAS ALWAYS DRAWING CARTOONS FOR HIMSELF
  • 20:36 AND SO HE SUBMITTED SOME CARTOONS TO THE JERUSALEM POST.
  • 20:39 AT THE TIME DAVID BAR ILLAN WAS THE EDITOR AND HE LOVED ALL THE CARTOONS AS A LOT OF US DO.
  • 20:48 NOW HE LIVES IN CANADA.
  • 20:50 WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HIM THAT HE MAKES A WEEKLY CARTOON FOR US.
  • 20:56 I WONDER IF HE WOULD DO SOME FOR US.
  • 20:58 DAVID BAR ILLAN INTRODUCED ME TO OLEG ONE TIME.
  • 21:01 I BET HE WOULD. >>I BET HE WOULD.
  • 21:03 THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. >>I BET HE WOULD. HE IS SUPERB.
  • 21:06 SOME CARTOONISTS JUST HAVE THE PEOPLE AND YOU CAN BARELY RECOGNIZE THEM,
  • 21:11 BUT WITH OLEG YOU CAN SEE THE EXPRESSION OF THEIR FACE.
  • 21:15 YES, HE'S WONDERFUL.
  • 21:17 LET ME ASK YOU SOME OF THE HARD QUESTIONS I GET ASKED IN DEBATES.
  • 21:20 I HAVE LIBERAL JEWISH FRIENDS.
  • 21:23 ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR SAID TO ME JUST BEFORE THIS TRIP,
  • 21:27 IT'S FINE, IT'S LOVELY AND BIBLICAL.
  • 21:30 YOU WANT TO HAVE ALL THE LAND, ETC., BUT THERE'S A REALITY HERE.
  • 21:34 THE ARAB PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST REPRODUCING FASTER THAN THE JEWS.
  • 21:39 THEIR POPULATION IS GROWING AND GROWING. THEY LIVE HERE.
  • 21:44 YOU EITHER HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SEPARATE NATION OR
  • 21:49 YOU'LL END UP CONSTANTLY TRYING TO SUBJUGATE A PEOPLE WHICH IS GROWING BIGGER THAN YOU ARE.
  • 21:54 IN THE END, IF YOU MAKE IT A TOTAL DEMOCRACY WITH THEM INCLUDED, THEY'LL VOTE YOU OUT OF OFFICE.
  • 22:00 IF YOU TRY TO OCCUPY THEM, THEY'LL OUT POPULATE YOU. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
  • 22:06 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
  • 22:08 WE'RE GOING TO COME TO OUR SENSES AND WE'RE GOING TO WAKE UP
  • 22:11 THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL TO FINALLY COME TO THEIR SENSES.
  • 22:15 THIS IS A VERY TEMPORARY REALITY.
  • 22:20 WHAT WE HAVE TO GET ACROSS TO PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THE REALITY,
  • 22:23 WHICH IS A MAN-CREATED REALITY OF THE LAST CENTURY.
  • 22:29 WHEN WAS JORDAN? WHEN WAS EGYPT - MODERN EGYPT AS A COUNTRY?
  • 22:34 THIS WAS GIVEN OUT LIKE GIFTS BY THE COLONIAL POWERS, FRANCE, BRITAIN, LIKE GIFTS.
  • 22:43 YOU'RE FIGHTING THIS SHEIK AND THIS SHEIK, YOU'RE FIGHTING.
  • 22:47 ONE CAN HAVE SAUDI ARABIA AND ONE CAN HAVE JORDAN.
  • 22:51 DON'T FIGHT BOYS. THERE'S ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. SO WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 22:56 THE JEWS WERE SHORT-CHANGED AGAIN.
  • 22:59 BALFOUR SAID THE WHOLE BIT WAS GOING TO BE THE JEWISH HOMELAND.
  • 23:03 WELL, CHOP, CHOP, CHOP AND NOW WE HAVE A VERY SMALL PART AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHOP AGAIN.
  • 23:09 DO YOU KNOW THAT I READ THIS IN THE PAPER, THE MOST SHOCKING THING,
  • 23:13 THAT PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON HAD PROMISED EHUD BARAK, WHO IS NOT ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE,
  • 23:23 THAT HE WOULD COMPENSATE THE SETTLERS NOT ONLY FOR LEAVING,
  • 23:31 BUT FOR LEAVING THEIR HOUSES INTACT SO THAT THE ARABS COULD MOVE RIGHT IN.
  • 23:37 AND HE PROMISED EHUD BARAK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, FOR THIS SCHEME.
  • 23:44 IS THAT EXTRAORDINARY? >>IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
  • 23:47 HAVE YOU READ ABOUT THAT? THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY.
  • 23:50 THE JERUSALEM POST, I HAVE MADE A CLIPPING OF IT.
  • 23:52 I WANT TO MENTION IT ON MY RADIO PROGRAM.
  • 23:56 I'M ALMOST BEFUDDLED WITH POLITICS THESE DAYS.
  • 24:00 I PUT OUT A NEWSLETTER AND I WAS TRYING TO SURMISE WHAT OUGHT TO BE DONE ABOUT TERRORISM AT ONE TIME
  • 24:06 AND I GOT A LETTER FROM A MILITARY PERSONALITY WHO SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE NO GENERAL.
  • 24:10 LET THE POWERS THAT BE DECIDE THESE THINGS. THEY KNOW HOW.
  • 24:15 AND HE SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO CONTEMPLATE A WAR
  • 24:19 YOU DON'T GIVE THE ENEMY ANY CLARITY.
  • 24:22 YOU KEEP HIM GUESSING AND CONFUSED.
  • 24:24 I COULD ONLY SAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE ENEMY THAT'S GUESSING AND CONFUSED.
  • 24:30 I THINK YOU KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER.
  • 24:32 RUTH, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL DISCUSSION.
  • 24:35 I COULD TALK TO YOU ALL DAY. I THINK I MIGHT. WE'LL JUST SHUT THE CAMERAS OFF.
  • 24:39 THIS IS SUCH A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL CHANCE TO BE ALLOWED TO TALK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.
  • 24:44 YOU KNOW THERE'S ONE THING I WANT YOU TO DO FOR WOMEN IN GREEN.
  • 24:48 I WANT YOU TO TRY TO OBLITERATE THAT IMAGE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US THAT WE ARE RADICAL, EXTREMISTS.
  • 25:00 WE ARE JUST A GROUP OF GRANDMOTHERS LIKE MYSELF AND MOTHERS AND YOUNG MARRIED WOMEN
  • 25:07 AND EVEN YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE STILL GOING TO UNIVERSITY, WHATEVER.
  • 25:13 WE HAVE A COMMON GOAL AND THAT IS TO PRESERVE ISRAEL AS A JEWISH COUNTRY,
  • 25:20 AS IT WAS PROMISED TO US BY GOD. THAT'S OUR GOAL, VERY SIMPLE.
  • 25:24 WE'RE NOT EXTREME AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE US SEEM THAT WAY, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.
  • 25:32 THEY DON'T WANT TO REALIZE THAT, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT FOR A REASON.
  • 25:36 YES, SURE.
  • 25:38 IF THEY CAN MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE RADICAL EXTREMISTS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE US.
  • 25:42 I HEARD THAT YOU HAVE 15 GRANDCHILDREN.
  • 25:46 THAT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WIN THE BATTLE. [LAUGHS]
  • 25:51 IT DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE AVERAGE RADICAL EXTREMIST.
  • 25:53 [LAUGHS]
  • 25:55 THANKS A LOT, RUTH, FOR TAKING THE TIME WITH US.
  • 25:57 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON YOUR SHOW.
  • 26:00 YOU HAVE TO ADMIRE RUTH MATAR AND THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
  • 26:04 THEY'RE NOT THE MOST POPULAR PEOPLE IN JERUSALEM, BUT I KIND OF LIKE THEIR VIEWS.
  • 26:10 THEY'RE OUTSPOKEN AND THEY'RE STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AND THEY'RE SCRIPTURAL.
  • 26:13 IT IS PERFECTLY SCRIPTURAL FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO SETTLE IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL;
  • 26:17 NOT SETTLE, BUT THEY'RE OWNERS OF THE LAND; TO RETURN TO IT AS NATIVES AND CLAIM THE PLACE.
  • 26:24 THAT'S, OF COURSE, WHAT SHE STRONGLY FAVORS.
  • 26:27 AS FAR AS THE GREEN GOES, THE LORD SAYS...
  • 26:30 WHEN YE BE COME INTO THE LAND YE SHALL PLANT ALL MANNER OF TREES
  • 26:35 HER PEOPLE DO THAT, TOO. CULTIVATING THE LAND IS AN IMPORTANT POINT IN RESTORING IT.
  • 26:42 ALSO, TO CONTINUE THE INTEGRITY OF THE LAND BY DEFENDING IT, BY HOLDING IT TOGETHER, BY GIVING
  • 26:49 WHAT THEY CALL IN HEBREW A [SPEAKING HEBREW] - GOOD PUBLICITY,
  • 26:52 OR GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE LAND, WHICH OUR AMBASSADORS TEND TO COME HOME AND DO.
  • 26:58 NEXT WEEK WE'LL CONTINUE WITH MORE OF THE TRIP AND THE VOICES FROM ISRAEL.
  • 27:03 IN THE MEANWHILE, SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Stand For Truth
  2. Israel and “Palestine” (Celebrating 75 Trips to the Holy Land)
  3. Roots Run Deep
  4. A Place in History
  5. On a Mission
  6. Raised to Walk
  7. On the Outside
  8. For the Future
  9. Top to Bottom
  10. The Last Words
Zola Levitt Presents
Levitt Letter
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