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Episode: “Roots Run Deep”
The group tours several prominent Christian sites in Jerusalem: the Temple Model, the Garden Tomb, the Promenade and the Garden of Gethsemane. Andrea and Gary Cooperberg, who live in Hebron, tell Zola how important they feel it is for Jews to migrate to Israel.
Series: “Voices From Israel”
This ten-program series not only traverses the physical land of Israel with a group of pilgrims visiting Biblical sites, but also scans Israel’s wide political landscape with the perspectives of government officials, so-called settlers and even Palestinians.

Caption transcript for Voices From Israel: “Roots Run Deep” (3/10)

  • 00:06 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR HERITAGE.
  • 00:09 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR DREAM.
  • 00:11 PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE.
  • 00:13 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
  • 00:15 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY
  • 00:17 WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED.
  • 00:19 WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE THE WORLD CHANGE.
  • 00:22 GOD'S PURPOSES FOR ISRAEL JUST MARCH ON, DON'T THEY?
  • 00:31 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:32 WELCOME BACK TO OUR VOICES FROM ISRAEL SERIES.
  • 00:35 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PARTICULARLY INTERESTING VOICES ON THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:39 LATER ON, I'M GOING TO INTERVIEW ANDREA AND GARY COOPERBERG
  • 00:44 WHO ARE SETTLERS FROM KIRYAT ARBA, NEXT TO HEBRON.
  • 00:48 IT'S FUNNY TO SAY SETTLERS FROM HEBRON
  • 00:50 BECAUSE ABRAHAM LIVED IN HEBRON, OF COURSE.
  • 00:52 THEY'RE NATIVES OF HEBRON, BUT THEY'RE BACK
  • 00:54 THEY LIVE CLOSE TO THE ACTION AND THEY HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
  • 00:58 TONY, HE IS OUR TRAVEL MANAGER
  • 01:02 AND WHERE ARE WE GOING ON THE LEG OF THE TRIP?
  • 01:05 WELL, TODAY, ZOLA,
  • 01:06 WE HAVE A VERY FASCINATING DAY IN OUR TRAVELS.
  • 01:08 WE WILL TRAVEL FIRST TO THE TEMPLE MODEL,
  • 01:11 A MAGNIFICENT SCALE MODEL THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE
  • 01:16 THE TEMPLE MOUNT, WHEN THE TEMPLE WAS ACTUALLY THERE,
  • 01:19 COMPARED TO TODAY.
  • 01:21 WE ALSO TRAVEL TO THE PLACE OUTSIDE THE CITY,
  • 01:24 THE GARDEN TOMB WHERE OUR LORD WAS LAID IN THE TOMB
  • 01:27 AND WE FIND THAT HE'S NOT THERE, ACTUALLY.
  • 01:29 HE'S RISEN, JUST AS SCRIPTURE SAYS.
  • 01:32 WE ALSO TRAVEL TO THE PROMENADE
  • 01:35 AND SEE A MAGNIFICENT PANORAMIC SHOT OF JERUSALEM, THE CITY,
  • 01:41 A GREAT PLACE TO VISIT
  • 01:44 AND THEN IN GETHSEMANE WHERE OUR LORD PRAYED.
  • 01:47 VERY INTERESTING, LET'S GO TO JERUSALEM NOW.
  • 02:00 AS WE BOARD THE BUS TO BEGIN OUR DAY,
  • 02:02 I MAKE SURE ALL ARE PRESENT AND READY TO GO
  • 02:05 AND THEN WE DRIVE TO THE HOLY LAND HOTEL IN JERUSALEM
  • 02:08 WHERE THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL SCALE MODEL OF THE CITY
  • 02:10 AS IT LOOKED IN THE FIRST CENTURY WHEN JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES WALKED HERE.
  • 02:14 OUR ISRAELI GUIDE, ZVI RAVAI SHOWS US ALL THE INTRICATE DETAILING OF THIS MODEL.
  • 02:20 HERE WE SEE THE TEMPLE MOUNT WITH THE EASTERN GATE,
  • 02:23 THE OUTER AND INNER COURTS, THE TEMPLE ITSELF
  • 02:27 AS WELL AS THE COLONNADE OR SOLOMON'S PORTICO.
  • 02:30 EVEN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THE COMMON PEOPLE LIVED THERE LIVES
  • 02:34 AND THE PERIMETER WALLS WHICH PROTECTED THE CITY
  • 02:37 HAVE BEEN FAITHFULLY REPRODUCED DOWN TO THE SMALLEST DETAIL.
  • 02:40 THERE IS A NEW OBSERVATION DECK THAT YOU CAN CLIMB TO GET A BROAD PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY,
  • 02:46 A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE JERUSALEM OF JESUS' DAY.
  • 02:53 THEN WE DRIVE BY THE OLD CITY WALLS AS WE SEEK THE PLACE WHERE JESUS WAS BURIED.
  • 02:57 WE COME TO THE GARDEN TOMB WHICH IS LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE OLD CITY.
  • 03:01 HERE WE SEE A LUSH NATURAL BEAUTY.
  • 03:05 WE LISTEN TO ONE OF THE SPOKESMEN GIVE THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE
  • 03:07 AND WE SEE A POSSIBLE LOCATION OF THE CRUCIFIXION.
  • 03:11 THIS PLACE HAS A POWERFUL AFFECT ON BELIEVERS WHO COME HERE
  • 03:15 TO SEE A RICH MAN'S TOMB CARVED OUT OF SOLID ROCK
  • 03:19 AND A CHANNEL FOR A LARGE STONE TO SEAL IT'S ENTRANCE,
  • 03:23 BUT IT IS THE EMPTY TOMB ITSELF THAT STIRS THE SPIRITS OF THE FAITHFUL
  • 03:28 TO THE SACRIFICE OUR SAVIOR MADE IN OUR BEHALF.
  • 03:31 HE PAID THE PRICE OF SIN SO THAT WE COULD BE FORGIVEN AND ENJOY ETERNAL FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 03:39 WHERE IS HE? HE'S NOT IN HERE.
  • 03:42 THAT'S GREAT, HE IS RISEN AND INSIDE THE DOOR IT SAYS,
  • 03:45 "HE'S NOT HERE, HE'S RISEN" GLORY, HALLELUJAH.
  • 03:48 THIS WHOLE TRIP BRINGS THE BIBLE ALIVE.
  • 03:52 YOU CAN PICTURE THE PLACE AS YOU READ IT.
  • 03:54 AS YOU READ IT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE.
  • 03:57 MY FEELING IS THAT I SERVE A RISEN SAVIOR
  • 04:00 AND THIS IS JUST A WONDERFUL CONFIRMATION THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE
  • 04:06 NO MATTER WHAT THE SKEPTICS SAY, THAT HE IS RISEN AND HE IS RISEN INDEED.
  • 04:11 SO, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
  • 04:15 AFTER THE GARDEN TOMB,
  • 04:17 WE BOARD THE BUS AND ZOLA TALKS TO US
  • 04:19 AS WE HEAD TOWARD ONE OF THE MOST PICTURESQUE SPOTS IN JERUSALEM CALLED THE PROMENADE.
  • 04:24 THERE WE HAVE A GROUP PHOTO TAKEN.
  • 04:26 AFTER A FEW SNAPSHOTS, ZOLA REMINDS US OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED HERE.
  • 04:33 WHEN DAVID MADE HIS CITY OF DAVID, IT WENT DOWN THE HILL FROM THE WALL.
  • 04:37 YOU SEE THE HOUSES GOING DOWN THE HILL,
  • 04:40 YOU SEE HOW, BY THE WAY, THE ROOF OF EACH HOUSE IS SORT OF THE PORCH
  • 04:45 OR CAN BE USED BY THE HOUSE ABOVE IT AS USEFUL SPACE
  • 04:52 AND THEY DID THAT AND THEY PUT BATHTUBS OUT ON THE ROOF SOMETIMES
  • 04:57 AND TOOK THEIR BATHS THERE AND THAT IS HOW BATHSHEBA
  • 05:00 WITH A STRATEGIC ARRANGEMENT OF HER PALM BRANCHES CHANGED WORLD HISTORY.
  • 05:03 (LAUGHING)
  • 05:06 DAVID'S CASTLE OBVIOUSLY WAS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL
  • 05:09 AND HER BATHTUB WAS SOMEWHERE ON THE HILL.
  • 05:12 THEY STILL LIVE THAT WAY.
  • 05:15 ALL OF THESE HILLS, YOU SEE, HAVE TO BUILD LIKE SAN FRANCISCO,
  • 05:18 THE HOUSES ROLLING DOWN AND ROLLING UP.
  • 05:21 I OFTEN THINK ONLY GOD PUT A CITY IN A PLACE LIKE THIS.
  • 05:24 IT HAS NO RIVER, IT HAS NO HARBORS,
  • 05:26 IT'S ROCKS AND HILLS, BUT IT'S HIS CITY, IT'S WHAT HE CHOSE.
  • 05:31 I'VE BEEN SAVING UP FOR THIS.
  • 05:32 I SAVE UP TO COME EVERY TWO YEARS WITH ZOLA IF I CAN
  • 05:36 AND I TELL EVERYBODY I CAN TO COME ON OVER AND SEE IT FOR THEMSELVES.
  • 05:40 IS THIS WHAT YOU EXPECTED?
  • 05:41 I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT I HAVE HAD NO FEARS AT ALL WHILE BEING ON THIS TRIP.
  • 05:47 YOU WERE NERVOUS BEFORE COMING,
  • 05:49 RIGHT.
  • 05:50 AND NOW THAT YOU ARE HERE,
  • 05:51 YOU'RE FINDING OUT THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
  • 05:53 NO, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS FOR THE WHOLE TRIP.
  • 05:55 WE'VE HAD A GREAT TIME AND I'D LIKE TO COME BACK AGAIN.
  • 05:58 AFTER ENJOYING THE SCENIC BEAUTY FROM THE PROMENADE,
  • 06:01 WE LOAD THE BUS AND DRIVE AWAY
  • 06:03 AS DAVID MINAY, OUR BUS DRIVER FOR MANY YEARS,
  • 06:06 TAKES US TO OUR NEXT LOCATION.
  • 06:08 HERE IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE ON THE LOWER SLOPES OF THE MT. OF OLIVES,
  • 06:11 WE FIND QUIET SANCTUARY.
  • 06:16 HERE THE DISCIPLES DRIFTED OFF TO SLEEP
  • 06:18 AS JESUS PRAYED FOR STRENGTH AND LATER JUDAS CAME TO BETRAY HIM.
  • 06:25 SINCE THEN, THESE SLOW GROWING OLIVE TREES
  • 06:27 HAVE BEEN PRESERVED AND CARED FOR IN THIS GARDEN
  • 06:30 IN REMEMBRANCE OF THE MESSIAH'S OBEDIENCE TO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER.
  • 06:34 AND THUS, THE PLAN OF SALVATION WAS FULFILLED.
  • 06:40 THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE WITH ZOLA, HE BROUGHT US HERE.
  • 06:44 AND I WAS SO ASTOUNDED AT THE WAY EVERYTHING HAS BEEN KEPT.
  • 06:50 WHEN I SEE THE GATE, I CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR IT TO BE REOPENED
  • 06:56 AND SEE SOMEONE COME THROUGH IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
  • 06:59 THERE ISN'T A BRIDGE TO IT NOW, BUT THERE WILL BE AT THAT TIME
  • 07:02 OR MAYBE HE WON'T NEED A BRIDGE AT THAT TIME, BUT IT WILL BE OPENED.
  • 07:07 AS WE NEAR THE END OF OUR DAY, WE WALK TO A NEARBY PLACE
  • 07:12 WHERE I TALK TO THE GROUP AS THEY FOCUS ON THE WALLS OF THE OLD CITY.
  • 07:16 ON THIS BEAUTIFUL JERUSALEM EVENING WE LOOK TO THE EASTERN GATE
  • 07:20 AND WE'RE THANKFUL THAT THIS ANCIENT CITY
  • 07:22 WILL ONE DAY SEE THE MESSIAH'S RETURN TO THE MT. OF OLIVES,
  • 07:25 ENTER THE EAST GATE AND BEGIN TO RULE THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM.
  • 07:30 UNTIL THAT TIME, WE WAIT PATIENTLY.
  • 07:32 LIKE THE OLIVE TREES IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE,
  • 07:35 WONDERING WHEN OUR FAITH WILL BECOME SIGHT.
  • 07:38 COULD IT BE TONIGHT?
  • 07:46 WELL, TONY, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PREMIER SITES IN JERUSALEM.
  • 07:49 SOME OF THE MOST FASCINATING SITES THAT ONE CAN SEE,
  • 07:52 THE TEMPLE MODEL, THE GARDEN TOMB,
  • 07:55 THE PROMENADE AND GETHSEMANE WHICH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES TO VISIT.
  • 08:02 OH, IT'S A VERY INSPIRING PLACE.
  • 08:04 IT'S JUST, ON AN OBJECTIVE LEVEL, IF YOU COMPARE ISRAEL WHICH IS A 3000 YEAR OLD LAND,
  • 08:12 IT'S REALLY A 4000 YEAR OLD LAND.
  • 08:14 WE'RE GOING TO LEARN FROM THE COOPERBERGS, COMING UP,
  • 08:16 THAT ABRAHAM LIVED THERE 4000 YEARS AGO.
  • 08:19 IT'S NOT LIKE EUROPE WHICH IS A FEW HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
  • 08:23 IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE A TRIP TO ROME WHICH IS 2000 YEARS OLD,
  • 08:27 OR EVEN ATHENS WHICH IS 2500 YEARS OLD.
  • 08:31 IT'S OLDER THAN ALL OF THOSE.
  • 08:33 IT'S OLDER THAN ANY WESTERN CIVILIZATION
  • 08:37 AND IT RANKS ON THE LEVEL WITH THE ORIENT AND WITH EGYPT AND SO ON.
  • 08:44 ANY WAY, GARY AND ANDREA COOPERBERG,
  • 08:46 THEY'VE BEEN IN OUR LEVITT LETTER.
  • 08:48 [THEY'RE] FASCINATING PEOPLE.
  • 08:50 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, TONY. THANKS A LOT.
  • 08:52 I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
  • 08:53 NOW TO OUR INTERVIEW.
  • 08:55 WELL ANDREA, YOU LIVE IN ONE OF THE DIFFICULT CITIES, I GATHER, HEBRON.
  • 09:01 YOU LIVE IN KIRYAT ARBA, THE JEWISH SETTLEMENT.
  • 09:03 HOW'S LIFE?
  • 09:06 LIFE'S JUST LOVELY IF YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THE HUNDRED THOUSAND ARABS THAT SURROUND YOU.
  • 09:14 LIFE IS VERY, VERY NICE THERE.
  • 09:17 THERE ARE 6 OR 7 THOUSAND JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 09:20 I THINK SO, MAYBE CLOSE TO 10 THOUSAND
  • 09:25 THAT LIVE IN ALL THE SETTLEMENTS AND AREAS NEAR BY.
  • 09:30 BUT YOU'RE VASTLY OUTNUMBERED.
  • 09:32 YES.
  • 09:33 OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE AN AMERICAN AND YOU COME FROM WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES?
  • 09:37 WE MOVED TO ISRAEL FROM WEST HEMPSTEAD, LONG ISLAND.
  • 09:42 HOW LONG AGO.
  • 09:44 WE'VE BEEN IN ISRAEL 22 YEARS AND 21 OF THEM WE'VE LIVED IN KIRYAT ARBA.
  • 09:50 YOU'RE A NURSE.
  • 09:52 YOU'RE IN TOUCH WITH SOME CASUALTIES.
  • 09:54 I WASN'T TAUGHT IN NURSING SCHOOL
  • 09:57 HOW TO HANDLE BULLET HOLE WOUNDS AND CLEAN BULLET HOLE WOUNDS.
  • 10:01 I'VE LEARNED HERE.
  • 10:03 I DON'T THINK ANY DAY THAT I GET UP, I THINK IT'S A NORMAL DAY.
  • 10:06 THE ABNORMAL IS THAT WHEN I SLEEP AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
  • 10:12 THAT'S ABNORMAL.
  • 10:14 I HEARD IT SAID OF AMERICANS WHO DECIDE TO COME HERE,
  • 10:18 I DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH OF IT, I JUST HEARD IT SAID,
  • 10:21 90% GIVE IT UP AND BOUNCE RIGHT BACK.
  • 10:24 TO GO BACK TO AMERICA?
  • 10:26 YES.
  • 10:27 I DON'T THINK THAT EVER ENTERED MY MIND.
  • 10:31 THAT'S NOT YOU.
  • 10:33 I DRANK THE WATER HERE OR SOMETHING.
  • 10:34 IT GETS INTO YOUR BEING TO LIVE HERE, GOOD OR BAD, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY.
  • 10:43 WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO?
  • 10:45 WELL, GARY YOU'RE HOLDING AN AUTHENTIC RAM'S HORN, A SHOFAR.
  • 10:51 YOU HAVE A PROJECT SHOFAR, I KNOW,
  • 10:54 BUT, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN ACTUALLY BLOW THIS THING.
  • 10:56 YES, ACTUALLY I PERFORMED THE MITZVAH,
  • 11:00 THE COMMANDMENT OF SOUNDING THE SHOFAR ON ROSH HASHANAH
  • 11:04 IN THE CAVE OF MACHPELAH IN HEBRON.
  • 11:05 I'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS
  • 11:07 AND QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.
  • 11:11 I NEVER WAS TRAINED.
  • 11:13 IT'S NOT SOME MUSICAL INSTRUMENT IT'S A SPIRITUAL THING.
  • 11:16 IT REPRESENTS A CONNECTION, A DIRECT CONNECTION WITH HEAVEN.
  • 11:21 IT REPRESENTS A CALL, A CRY, AN ALARM, AN AWAKENING
  • 11:26 AND WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME NOW, ESPECIALLY A TIME OR REAWAKENING
  • 11:30 OF REDEMPTION WE CAN SEE WITH OUR OWN EYES.
  • 11:33 I HAVE STARTED SOMETHING I CALL "PROJECT SHOFAR"
  • 11:37 WHERE THE SYMBOL OF THE SHOFAR IS CALLING OUT THE ALARM
  • 11:41 TO WAKE UP PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY
  • 11:43 AND TO ACT ACCORDINGLY RATHER THAN RELEGATED TO SOME KIND OF POLITICAL PROCESS.
  • 11:52 WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY IN ISRAEL, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF MY PEOPLE,
  • 11:56 IS REACTING TO POLITICAL SITUATIONS AS IF WE ARE JUST ANOTHER COUNTRY
  • 12:02 AND ALL WE WANT TO DO IS LIVE IN PEACE AND WE'LL DO IT AT ANY PRICE.
  • 12:06 WE FORGET THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS CREATED MIRACULOUSLY UNDER IMPOSSIBLE CONDITIONS
  • 12:14 AND THE REAL PURPOSE FOR THIS COUNTRY WAS TO FULFILL GOD'S WILL.
  • 12:20 IT WAS PREDICTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN THE BIBLE
  • 12:22 AND WE SEE THOSE PREDICTIONS COMING TRUE BEFORE OUR EYES TODAY.
  • 12:26 YES, WELL THE SHOFAR--
  • 12:27 THOSE WHO ARE SO CLOSE TO IT, CLOSE THEIR EYES TO IT
  • 12:30 AND DON'T EVEN SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES.
  • 12:33 AND SO THE CALLING OF THE SHOFAR IS TO TRY TO OPEN YOUR EYES AGAIN TO SAY,
  • 12:36 OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK. LOOK WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
  • 12:38 WE DIDN'T JUST COME BACK HERE BECAUSE IT WAS NICE.
  • 12:41 NOBODY WANTED US HERE.
  • 12:43 RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE TO GIVE IT AWAY TO THE ARABS,
  • 12:46 OH, YES.
  • 12:47 TO MAKE PEACE WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS,
  • 12:50 BECAUSE THE EXACT OPPOSITE WILL OCCUR.
  • 12:52 THE MORE WE GIVE AWAY, THE MORE WE EMBOLDEN THE ENEMIES OF ISRAEL
  • 12:57 TO THINK THEY CAN DESTROY US.
  • 12:59 AND SO IT WILL GUARANTEE THE WAR WILL COME QUICKER
  • 13:02 AND THAT THERER WILL BE MORE LOSS OF LIFE ON BOTH SIDES.
  • 13:04 SO IT MAKES NO SENSE.
  • 13:06 OK, YOU ARE REGARDED AS A RIGHT-WING RADICAL SETTLER,
  • 13:10 OUTSPOKEN OF THE GOVERNMENT, WHATEVER.
  • 13:13 YOU GET ALL THESE--
  • 13:14 I'M NOT AN OPPONENT. I'M A PROPONENT.
  • 13:16 I'M A PROPONENT OF JUDAISM, OF JEWISH RETURN,
  • 13:19 OF BRINGING REAL PEACE IN A REAL WAY,
  • 13:22 ONLY WITH GOD'S HELP AND ON THAT, WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT HIM
  • 13:25 AND UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD.
  • 13:29 THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S THE BASIC PROBLEM.
  • 13:30 OH, I AGREE.
  • 13:32 MY LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT, REALLY FOR THE MOST PART, DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD.
  • 13:34 THEY BELIEVE IN PLEASING THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD
  • 13:39 AND THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP THEM AND IT'S NOT.
  • 13:42 THE WARNINGS ARE REPLETE THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE
  • 13:44 THAT WE SHOULDN'T RELY ON HORSES AND ON KINGS, WE SHOULD RELY ONLY ON GOD.
  • 13:49 AND WHEN WE REALLY DO THAT AND WHEN WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST,
  • 13:52 WE'VE SEEN THE MIRACLES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
  • 13:54 SO, YOUR PHILOSOPHY IS THAT THE ISRAELIS THEMSELVES DON'T APPRECIATE--
  • 14:01 AREN'T COGNIZANT OF THE TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY AND BURDEN UPON THEIR OWN SHOULDERS
  • 14:06 TO REDEEM THE WORLD, TO BRING REAL PEACE TO THE WORLD,
  • 14:09 NOT BY GIVING AWAY OUR COUNTRY, NOT BY NEGATING DIVINE COMMANDMENTS,
  • 14:14 BUT ON THE CONTRARY, BY SUPPORTING DIVINE COMMANDMENTS,
  • 14:17 BY STANDING UP TO THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGES
  • 14:20 TO FULFILL GOD'S WILL, NOT OUR WILL.
  • 14:23 IT'S NOT THAT I WANT THE LAND BECAUSE I'M JEALOUS OF ANYBODY ELSE.
  • 14:26 GOD COMMANDED US TO LIVE HERE AND FOR US TO BE GIVEN THE PRIVILEGE TO LIVE HERE
  • 14:31 AND THEN WILLINGLY THROW IT AWAY IS TO SLAP GOD IN THE FACE
  • 14:35 AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TERROR TODAY.
  • 14:37 THAT'S THE REAL REASON FOR TERROR.
  • 14:40 IT'S A PUNISHMENT.
  • 14:41 IT'S OUR PUNISHMENT FOR NOT BEING STRONG AND STANDING WITH GOD'S LAWS.
  • 14:45 THIS IS AGAIN PART OF THE ALARM THAT I AM TRYING TO SOUND.
  • 14:47 BUT THERE'S A VERY SIMPLE--
  • 14:49 WE TRY TO THINK OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER, HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE PEACE.
  • 14:54 WE CAN'T ACHIEVE PEACE, ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT.
  • 14:56 GOD HAS GIVEN US COMMANDMENTS OF THINGS WE CAN DO.
  • 15:00 THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE THINGS, COMMANDMENTS.
  • 15:02 IF WE TRUST IN GOD AND DO OUR PART, HE WILL DO THE IMPOSSIBLE THINGS.
  • 15:06 WE DON'T KNOW HOW.
  • 15:08 WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE THIRD TEMPLE IS GOING TO BE REBUILT.
  • 15:10 THERE'S AN ARGUMENT AMONG RABBIS, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT
  • 15:13 OR IT'S GOING TO COME DIRECTLY DOWN FROM HEAVEN.
  • 15:15 IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 15:17 SO, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS CONCENTRATE ON OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS JEWS,
  • 15:20 EVERY JEW ALL OVER THE WORLD, NOT JUST THOSE OF US LIVING IN ISRAEL
  • 15:23 AND I'M MORE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW FOR MY FELLOW JEW LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES
  • 15:28 WHO LOOKS AT ISRAEL AS A POOR COUNTRY THAT'S UNDER PRESSURE
  • 15:31 AND PEOPLE ARE SHOOTING AND ISN'T IT TERRIBLE,
  • 15:33 MAYBE ONCE IN A WHILE I'LL GIVE DONATIONS FOR IT.
  • 15:35 NEVER ONCE DOES HE THINK IN HIS HEART, THAT'S MY HOME, THAT'S WHERE I BELONG,
  • 15:39 I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MAKING PLANS TO COME HOME.
  • 15:42 I WOULD SAY CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA THINK MORE ABOUT IT BEING THEIR HOME.
  • 15:45 IT SEEMS THAT WAY.
  • 15:47 I HAVE FOUND A VERY SYMPATHETIC EAR ON A GREAT MANY CHRISTIANS WHOCOME ON THEIR OWN TO ISRAEL,
  • 15:52 WHO COME TO THESE PLACES, TO THE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T USUALLY GO TO,
  • 15:56 HEBRON, KIRYAT ARBA, TO BET AEL, TO ALL OF THESE PLACES,
  • 15:59 BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE AUTHENTIC CONTINUATION OF THE BIBLICAL NARRATIVE.
  • 16:03 SO IS IT YOUR FEELING THAT IF PEOPLE WOULD DEDICATE THEMSELVES AND PRAY
  • 16:07 AND WHAT IT SAYS IN THE SCRIPTURES, "IF MY PEOPLE WILL TURN TO ME...."
  • 16:12 WELL, I'M MORE INTERESTED, I'M INTRIGUED BY EZEKIEL 36.
  • 16:15 THAT REALLY HAS THE WHOLE THING IN A NUTSHELL.
  • 16:19 SORT OF WEST BANK SCRIPTURE.
  • 16:20 GOD TELLS US THROUGH EZEKIEL WHAT UPSETS HIM,
  • 16:24 WHAT WE'RE DOING WRONG AND HOW WE CAN DO IT RIGHT.
  • 16:27 IT'S EXCITING EVEN IF WE HAVE TO READ BETWEEN LINE A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE.
  • 16:31 IT'S AN EXCELLENT CHAPTER.
  • 16:32 HE DESCRIBES WHAT IS (SPEAKING HEBREW) DESECRATION OF GOD'S NAME.
  • 16:35 AND VERY SIMPLY SPEAKING, DESECRATION OF GOD'S NAME IS A JEW LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE LAND
  • 16:40 BECAUSE IF THE JEW IS LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE LAND, THEN WHERE IS GOD'S STRENGTH,
  • 16:44 WHERE IS HIS ABILITY TO DO HIS WILL IF HE CAN'T BRING HIS PEOPLE BACK,
  • 16:49 BACK TO THE LAND HE CLAIMS HE'S GOING TO BRING THEM TO?
  • 16:51 PEOPLE WILL QUESTION, IS THERE REALLY A GOD?
  • 16:54 WHAT KIND OF A GOD IS THAT IF HE CAN'T DO WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO?
  • 16:56 AND GOD SAYS THROUGH EZEKIEL,
  • 17:00 EVENTUALLY, I AM GOING TO BE TIRED OF YOU DESECRATING MY NAME.
  • 17:03 DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU.
  • 17:05 I'M DOING IT FOR ME, FOR MY HOLY NAMESAKE
  • 17:07 WHEN I LIFT YOU UP AND I BRING YOU HOME BEFORE THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD
  • 17:10 AND PLANT YOU IN YOUR HOMELAND.
  • 17:12 IT'S AN ANGRY PROPHECY BUT IN THE ANGER, HE'S REVEALING HOW WE CAN AVOID THE ANGER.
  • 17:18 WHAT IF WE PICK OURSELVES UP ON OUR OWN AND COME HOME
  • 17:21 AND LIVE IN THE LAND EVEN THOUGH IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.
  • 17:25 NOT ONLY WILL GOD PERFORM MIRACLES FOR US,
  • 17:27 HE WILL STOP ALL OF THE PUNISHMENTS.
  • 17:30 YES, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE CHAPTER
  • 17:32 AND IT ELUDES TO THE HEATHEN THAT OCCUPY THE LAND
  • 17:35 ALMOST LIKE WEST BANK SCRIPTURE BECAUSE IT SAYS
  • 17:39 THE RIVERS AND THE VALLEYS AND THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL,
  • 17:41 IN THE END, THE JEWS PREVAIL, BUT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
  • 17:47 THEY REALLY WON'T UNTIL THEY TURN TO HIM.
  • 17:49 AGAIN, THE PROPHECY IS ALSO A WARNING.
  • 17:51 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OUT BAD.
  • 17:53 JONAH DID NOT WANT TO GO TO NINEVAH BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID, BUT HE HAD NO CHOICE.
  • 18:00 AND THE PEOPLE CHANGED, HE SAID THE CITY IS DOOMED.
  • 18:05 OH YES THEY CHANGED.
  • 18:06 AND THEY RESPONDED TO THE WARNING AND THEY CHANGED THE DOOM.
  • 18:09 WE CAN ALSO DO THAT.
  • 18:11 WE CAN RESPOND TO THE WARNING THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US CLEARLY IN EZEKIEL
  • 18:14 AND CHANGE THE DOOM THAT IS ACCOMPANYING REDEMPTION.
  • 18:18 REDEMPTION IS GUARANTEED, WE WILL DEFINITELY PREVAIL.
  • 18:21 ISRAEL WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,
  • 18:24 BUT HOW WILL WE BE REDEEMED?
  • 18:27 WILL WE BE REDEEMED THROUGH ALL THE TERROR THAT'S GOING ON
  • 18:29 AND SQUEAK THROUGH WITH SO MUCH HORROR?
  • 18:32 OR WILL IT BE DONE WITH JOY AND PRIDE AND GLORY?
  • 18:36 THAT'S THE CHOICE WE HAVE AND THIS IS WHY I'M SOUNDING THE HORN
  • 18:39 AND THIS IS WHY I'M CALLING ON MY BROTHERS TO COME HOME.
  • 18:50 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WH IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 18:55 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
  • 19:02 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS, BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
  • 19:10 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, PLEASE CALL
  • 19:20 DO THE PEOPLE HERE APPRECIATE THAT THEY ARE LIVING IN PROPHETIC TIMES?
  • 19:24 WELL, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO DO, OF COURSE.
  • 19:27 BUT THE PEOPLE WHO RULE THE COUNTRY IN GENERAL
  • 19:29 DON'T SEEM TO AND THIS THE MAIN PROBLEM.
  • 19:33 BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT MAKING TREMENDOUS CHANGES.
  • 19:36 I WANT TO DO THE LITTLE BIT THAT I AM ABLE TO DO AND TRUST THAT GOD WILL DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.
  • 19:40 BUT, WHAT I'M DOING IN "PROJECT SHOFAR"
  • 19:44 IS A CRAZY AND IMPOSSIBLE TASK, TO GO TO A JEW LIVING IN AMERICA
  • 19:49 AND ASK HIM TO LEAVE AMERICA AND COME TO ISRAEL,
  • 19:51 IS LIKE KNOCKING YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL.
  • 19:53 IT WAS IN THE DAYS WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED FROM PERSIA,
  • 19:56 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK FROM BABYLON.
  • 19:59 EGYPT, MOST OF THEM DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE.
  • 20:01 EVEN IN THE EXODUS.
  • 20:02 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN IMPOSSIBLE PROBLEM,
  • 20:05 BUT, I'M LIVING BY A LEGACY THAT A RABBI ONCE TOLD ME.
  • 20:08 HE SAID, GARY, IT'S NO MITZVAH TO SUCCEED, BUT IT'S A SIN NOT TO TRY.
  • 20:13 SO, ON THAT CONCEPT, I'M TRYING.
  • 20:16 AND WHEN I MEET MY MAKER, I'LL BE ABLE TO SAY, "I TRIED".
  • 20:19 SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT "PROJECT SHOFAR" IS ALL ABOUT.
  • 20:22 LISTEN, IT'S ALWAYS INSPIRING TO TALK TO YOU.
  • 20:25 I DON'T SEE THAT YOU'RE A RADICAL OR ANYTHING THAT YOU SAY AT ALL IS STRANGE.
  • 20:30 IT'S ALL VERY SPIRITUAL.
  • 20:32 IT SEEMS TO ME FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT AND THE SECULARS WHO ARE RADICALS,
  • 20:38 WHO IMAGINE THEY MAKE A DEAL FOR PEACE OR THAT THEY CAN GIVE AWAY LAND.
  • 20:43 I DON'T REALLY THINK THEY BELIEVE IN ALL THAT.
  • 20:45 AGAIN I'LL GO DOWN TO THE VERY SIMPLE BOTTOM LINE, IT'S BELIEF IN GOD.
  • 20:49 IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, I'M NOT ANGRY AT SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD,
  • 20:53 I CAN UNDERSTAND.
  • 20:54 IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, THEN WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
  • 20:56 LOOK AROUND YOU, HOW ARE WE LIVING?
  • 20:58 HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE?
  • 21:00 WE'RE A TINY LITTLE COUNTRY, ALL THE NATIONS AROUND US HATE US,
  • 21:03 WE'RE LIVING BY A STROKE OF LUCK AND HOW LONG CAN OUR LUCK LAST?
  • 21:08 SO, THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO TRY TO HEDGE OUR BETS,
  • 21:11 TRY TO APPEASE THOSE THAT WANT TO HURT US AND GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT
  • 21:14 AS LONG AS IT'S NOT EVERYTHING AND MAYBE WE'LL SURVIVE.
  • 21:17 THIS IS WHATOES ON IN THEIR HEADS, I WOULD ASSUME.
  • 21:19 OH, YES, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE NATIONS AROUND YOU THAT HATE YOU EITHER.
  • 21:22 THE SCRIPTURES SAYS YOU WILL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS.
  • 21:25 IT'S ILLOGICAL, IT'S IRRATIONAL.
  • 21:27 THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS IRRATIONAL.
  • 21:29 THEY'RE DESPERATE BECAUSE IF THEY'RE HONEST, THEY WILL REALIZE THERE IS NO HOPE.
  • 21:33 IF THEY ARE REALLY HONEST PEOPLE, THEY'LL PICK UP,
  • 21:36 PACK THEIR BAGS AND RUN WHEREVER THEY CAN GO.
  • 21:38 IF THEY'RE HONEST, IF THEY THINK THAT IF THEY GIVE AWAY ALL OF ISRAEL
  • 21:43 EXCEPT FOR A SQUARE MILE OF TEL AVIV THAT THEY'LL BE HAPPY,
  • 21:46 IT WON'T WORK THAT WAY, THEY WANT THAT TOO.
  • 21:48 FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW, IT'S AN ACT OF DESPERATION.
  • 21:52 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
  • 21:54 SO TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE RIGHT, THEY HAVE TO VILIFY US
  • 21:57 AND PROVE THAT WE'RE WRONG AND THAT WE'RE A BUNCH OF DREAMERS.
  • 22:00 BUT, THEIR DREAMS ARE MUCH MORE FANTASTIC THAN OURS ARE.
  • 22:03 WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF THE ARABS, THE TERRORIST IN GENERAL, ISLAM?
  • 22:08 I THINK THEY'RE SYMPTOM OF OUR ILLS.
  • 22:12 I DON'T SEE THEM AS THE PROBLEM.
  • 22:15 THEY'RE A SYMPTOM OF THE REAL PROBLEM.
  • 22:17 THE REAL PROBLEM, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB.
  • 22:19 WE'RE NOT LIVING UP TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS JEWS.
  • 22:23 WHEN WE EVEN SUGGEST THAT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,
  • 22:26 THERE CAN BE A FOREIGN COUNTRY PLANTED ON OUROIL,
  • 22:30 WE'RE SLAPPING OUR GOD IN THE FACE AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING OUR ENEMIES.
  • 22:34 OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE WHAT THEY CAN TAKE, THAT'S ONLY A NATURAL THING.
  • 22:38 BUT, IF THEY KNEW FROM THE OUTSET THAT WE WOULDN'T TOLERATE WANT THEY'RE DOING,
  • 22:42 THEN THEY WOULDN'T DO IT, IT WOULDN'T PAY.
  • 22:46 WE'VE TAUGHT THEM THAT IT PAYS.
  • 22:48 THEY THREW ROCKS AT US FOR HOW MANY YEARS, 9 YEARS, THEY WERE THROWING ROCKS AT US.
  • 22:52 AS A RESULT OF THROWING ROCKS AT US, WE GAVE THEM AUTONOMY.
  • 22:55 SO, THEY SAID, HEY, IF WE CAN GET THAT FOR ROCKS, WHAT WILL WE GET FOR BULLETS.
  • 22:59 SO, THEY'RE SHOOTING IS NOW.
  • 23:00 AND THEY'RE GETTING AWAY--
  • 23:01 AND WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THEM.
  • 23:03 THE ROCK ALMOST GAVE AWAY THE WHOLE JUDEA AND SAMARIA.
  • 23:07 SO, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING THE TERROR.
  • 23:10 I HATE TO SAY THIS. WE'RE GUILTY.
  • 23:12 DO YOU SEE THEM AS, SAY, NEBUCHEDNEZER AND THE CALDEANS IN SCRIPTURE,
  • 23:16 WHERE GOD ACTUALLY USED THEM AND SAID HE WOULD USE THEM TO PUNISH THE JEWS.
  • 23:20 ABSOLUTELY.
  • 23:21 LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY. LISTEN TO THEM.
  • 23:24 THIS IS OUR LAND FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL.
  • 23:26 WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ONE INCH. WE WILL DIE TO THE LAST MAN.
  • 23:29 WE WILL NOT NEGOTIATE OUR BIRTHRIGHTS.
  • 23:32 WAIT A SECOND, WHO SHOULD BE SAYING THAT.
  • 23:36 THEY'RE TEACHING US, THEY'RE GIVING US THE SCRIPT AND WE DON'T EVEN READ IT.
  • 23:40 OF COURSE, THIS IS GOD-
  • 23:42 I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT.
  • 23:43 JUST LISTEN TO YOUR ENEMIES.
  • 23:44 THEY'RE TELLING US EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
  • 23:47 THEIRS ARE ALL LIES.
  • 23:48 IF WE SAID IT, IT'S THE TRUTH.
  • 23:50 BUT,WE'RE ASHAMED AND AFRAID TO SAY IT.
  • 23:51 WE HAVE THE TRUTH WITH US. WE'RE AFRAID OF IT.
  • 23:54 THEIRS ARE LIES AND THEY'RE WALKING IN AND RUNNING WITH THEIR LIES.
  • 23:56 WELL, IF YOU'RE A RADICAL OR YOU HAVE STRANGE IDEAS, I HAVEN'T HEARD THEM.
  • 24:02 I ALWAYS ENJOY TALKING TO YOU GARY. THANKS FOR SHARING.
  • 24:06 MY PLEASURE, ZOLA. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
  • 24:08 ♪ HE MADE ME TO WALK ON ♪ THE WATER.
  • 24:12 ♪ HE TOLD ME NEVER DOUBT.
  • 24:21 ♪ TEACH ME TO WALK ON WATER ♪ EVEN WHEN I CAN'T STAND.
  • 24:31 ♪ HELP ME TO KNOW IT'S YOU ♪ I FOLLOW,
  • 24:37 ♪ HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND.
  • 24:42 ♪ TEACH ME TO WALK ON WATER TO ♪ REACH OUT AND TAKE YOUR HAND,
  • 24:53 ♪ IN SEAS OF DOUBT, ♪ I'LL REACH OUT,
  • 24:58 ♪ LEAD ME TO THE PROMISE LAND.
  • 25:05
  • 25:19 WELL, THE COOPERBERGS ARE PEOPLE THAT REALLY LIVE OUT THEIR ZIONISM.
  • 25:24 THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY AMERICANS, BUT THEY COMMITTED TO THE HOLY LAND LONG AGO
  • 25:28 AND TO ONE OF WHAT HAS BECOME A ROUGH AND TOUGH PART OF THE HOLY LAND, KIRYAT ARBA,
  • 25:33 OUTSIDE HEBRON WHERE THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL, RELATIVELY,
  • 25:37 OF JEWISH PEOPLE AND 100,000 OR 120,000 ARABS
  • 25:44 AND STILL THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE PLACE IS TOTALLY BIBLICAL.
  • 25:50 THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO SAY ABRAHAM WAS PRACTICALLY WHERE THEY LIVE
  • 25:54 WHEN GOD TOLD HIM GET UP ON THE HILL AND LOOK TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH
  • 25:58 AND THE EAST AND THE WEST AND ALL THAT YOU CAN SEE,
  • 26:01 I GIVE IT UNTO YOU AND TO YOUR SEED FOREVER.
  • 26:05 GOD CALLED THAT COVENANT, EVERLASTING.
  • 26:09 SO, THAT'S THE WAY THEY TELL IT TO ME AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS IN THE SCRIPTURES.
  • 26:15 THEY GO WITH THE SCRIPTURES.
  • 26:17 LIKE OUR GUEST LAST WEEK, RUTH MATAR, JEWISH PEOPLE FILLED WITH ZEALOUSNESS FOR THE LAND,
  • 26:22 ZIONISTS TEND TO AGREE RIGHT DOWN THE LINE WITH THE SCRIPTURES SAYS BECAUSE,
  • 26:28 FRANKLY, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, GOD HIMSELF IS A ZIONIST.
  • 26:32 A ZIONIST IS SOMEONE WHO FAVORS THE JEWS GOING BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL LAND
  • 26:37 AND RECLAIMING IT AND OCCUPYING IT AGAIN
  • 26:40 I THINK JEHOVAH COMES DOWN ON THAT SIDE OF THAT QUESTION.
  • 26:45 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Stand For Truth
  2. Israel and “Palestine” (Celebrating 75 Trips to the Holy Land)
  3. Roots Run Deep
  4. A Place in History
  5. On a Mission
  6. Raised to Walk
  7. On the Outside
  8. For the Future
  9. Top to Bottom
  10. The Last Words

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