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Series: “Voices From Israel”
This ten-program series not only traverses the physical land of Israel with a group of pilgrims visiting Biblical sites, but also scans Israel’s wide political landscape with the perspectives of government officials, so-called settlers and even Palestinians.
Episode: “A Place in History”
After visiting Zion Gate, the Cardo and David’s Tomb, Zola teaches the tour group in the Upper Room. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Cabinet Minister Livni give differing views on current political issues.

Caption transcript for Voices From Israel: “A Place in History” (4/10)

  • 00:06 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR HERITAGE.
  • 00:09 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR DREAM.
  • 00:11 PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE.
  • 00:13 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
  • 00:15 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED.
  • 00:19 WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE THE WORLD CHANGE.
  • 00:22 GOD'S PURPOSES FOR ISRAEL JUST MARCH ON, DON'T THEY?
  • 00:31 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:33 WE'RE BACK TO OUR "VOICES FROM ISRAEL SERIES" ON THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:37 WE'VE INTERRUPTED THIS SERIES.
  • 00:39 THE NEWS IS COMING SO THICK AND FAST
  • 00:42 AND WE ARE ALMOST ALONE ON OUR SIDE OF IT, AS CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS,
  • 00:46 AS SUPPORTERS OF THE HOLY LAND AND AS BELIEVERS IN BIBLE PROPHECY AND SO ON.
  • 00:52 WE'RE VERY BUSY WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME UP,
  • 00:55 SO FROM TIME TO TIME, WE NEED TO INTERRUPT THE SERIES.
  • 00:58 BUT, "VOICES FROM ISRAEL" WAS A SERIES FOLLOWING A TYPICAL TOUR OF OURS
  • 01:03 AND SITES WE VISIT
  • 01:05 AND WE HAVE WITH US TONY DERRICK WHO IS OUR TRAVEL MANAGER.
  • 01:09 GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU, TONY.
  • 01:11 IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK, ZOLA.
  • 01:12 ON TODAY'S PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A TOUR AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO?
  • 01:16 WE ARE GOING TO ENTER THE OLD CITY ON THIS TOUR,
  • 01:19 THROUGH THE ZION GATE.
  • 01:21 WE WILL TRAVEL THE STREETS OF THE CITY INTO THE CARDO.
  • 01:24 THE ROMAN STREET THAT WAS THERE.
  • 01:27 EXACTLY, ONE OF THE FAVORITE PLACES OF OUR TOURS
  • 01:29 BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF SHOPS ARE,
  • 01:31 WHERE PEOPLE CAN TAKE A FEW MOMENTS OF SUPER SHOPPING, TO DO A LITTLE SHOPPING.
  • 01:35 WE WILL VISIT DAVID'S TOMB,
  • 01:38 THAT REGAL PLACE THAT'S SET ASIDE AS DAVID'S TOMB
  • 01:40 AND THEN MORE FASCINATING, I THINK, IS THE UPPER ROOM
  • 01:43 WHERE WE ASSEMBLE TOGETHER AS YOU KNOW
  • 01:46 AND THE SOUND REVERBERATES THROUGH THE ROOM
  • 01:49 AS WE SING, USUALLY, "AMAZING GRACE".
  • 01:51 OH YES, THAT'S A THRILL.
  • 01:53 OUR PEOPLE REACT VERY WELL IN THE UPPER ROOM.
  • 01:56 OKAY, LET'S GO THEN.
  • 02:06 WE BEGIN OUR DAY OF TOURING AT ZION GATE IN JERUSALEM.
  • 02:08 OUR ISRAELI TOUR GUIDE, ZVI RAVI EXPLAINS THE HISTORY OF MT. ZION
  • 02:13 AND SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED AROUND THIS GATE.
  • 02:16 WE WALK INTO THE OLD CITY TO DISCOVER THE BEAUTY OF NARROW PASSAGEWAYS
  • 02:20 SNAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE ANCIENT TOWNS.
  • 02:23 OUR FIRST STOP IS THE CARDO WHERE WE SEE ROMAN COLUMNS, CRUSADER WALLS
  • 02:28 AND BYZANTINE MOSAICS, LIKE THIS ONE DEPICTING THE CITY AS IT WAS IN THE 5TH CENTURY.
  • 02:34 A LIFE SIZE RECREATION OF THE TEMPLE MENORAH IS HERE,
  • 02:38 BUT, THERE'S MUCH MORE HISTORY LYING JUST BENEATH THE SURFACE.
  • 02:43 THIS WALL IS FROM KING HEZEKIAH, 721 BC.
  • 02:49 JERUSALEM HAS BEEN BUILT OVER AND OVER AGAIN UPON ITSELF FOR MILLENNIA.
  • 02:53 HERE ARCHAEOLOGISTS HAVE DUG DOWN BELOW STREET LEVEL TO FIND HISTORY WAITING.
  • 02:58 WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE JEWISH QUARTER
  • 03:01 WHERE WE SEE SMALL CHILDREN FREE TO WALK AROUND IN PEACE AND SAFETY.
  • 03:04 AS WE STEP INTO A DOORWAY NEARBY, ZVI INTRODUCES US TO THE SITE OF DAVID'S TOMB.
  • 03:11 NOW A SYNAGOGUE, THIS PLACE IS A REMINDER OF THE ANCIENT JEWISH ATTACHMENT
  • 03:16 TO THIS CITY WHERE DAVID RULED AS KING.
  • 03:18 AS WE WALK ON, ZVI CALLS OUR ATTENTION TO VARIOUS POINTS OF INTEREST.
  • 03:23 THIS COMPLEX YOU SEE HERE WAS RESTORED BY THE CRUSADERS IN THE 12TH CENTURY.
  • 03:30 AS WE HEAR THE SOUNDS OF CHURCH BELLS RINGING,
  • 03:33 WE GO UP THE STAIRS LEADING TO THE UPPER ROOM WHERE INSIDE, ZOLA TEACHES US FROM SCRIPTURES.
  • 03:40 THIS IS THE UPPER ROOM.
  • 03:43 THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE FORMER CHRISTIANS THOUGHT THE LOCATION WAS AUTHENTIC
  • 03:49 BECAUSE THESE ARCHES WERE PUT HERE BY THE CRUSADERS.
  • 03:52 YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE EUROPEAN ARCHES.
  • 03:55 MUSLIMS PUT A PRAYER NICHE IN HERE FACING MECCA.
  • 03:58 THEY ARE SOMETIME WORSHIPERS OF JESUS WHO THEY REGARD AS A PROPHET.
  • 04:04 AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS,
  • 04:07 IT'S WHERE CHRISTIANS REMEMBERED THAT THIS WONDERFUL BIBLE LESSON TOOK PLACE.
  • 04:15 IN OTHER WORDS, FROM THE FIRST GENERATION TO THE SECOND TO THE THIRD
  • 04:19 UNTIL THCRUSADERS CAME AND LATER CHRISTIANS AND SO ON.
  • 04:22 IT GIVES THE PLACE A CERTAIN AUTHENTICITY.
  • 04:24 WE CAN'T BE EXACT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT PLACE.
  • 04:29 IT'S THE RIGHT KIND OF HOUSE, IT'S GOT THE VERY GENEROUS UPPER ROOM.
  • 04:34 IT'S GOT 1ST CENTURY STONES IN THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
  • 04:42 A CATHOLIC PRIEST TOLD ME ONCE, WHO WAS AN ARCHAEOLOGIST,
  • 04:46 WHEN WE WERE HERE, THAT THOSE STONES, SOME OF THEM,
  • 04:49 SMALLER ONES HAD BEEN DRAGGED ALL THE WAY HERE
  • 04:53 AND PLACED AGAINST THE FOUNDATION FROM THE TEMPLE MOUNT AFTER THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED.
  • 05:00 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JEWISH WORSHIPERS WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS,
  • 05:06 THOUGHT THAT PART OF THE TEMPLE OUGHT TO COME HERE TO THIS BUILDING
  • 05:09 AND WENT DOWN THERE AND GOT STONES AND PACKED THEM AGAINST THE FOUNDATION OF THE PLACE
  • 05:14 AND THOSE STONES WERE FOUND A MILE FROM WHERE THEY STARTED.
  • 05:18 THAT'S A HEAVY JOB, OF COURSE.
  • 05:20 AND THE DISCIPLES MUST HAVE WALKED FROM THIS ROOM,
  • 05:24 DOWN THE HILL TO THE SOUTHERN GATE OF THE TEMPLE AT THE TIME OF PENTECOST.
  • 05:30 THEY GATHERED IN THIS ROOM.
  • 05:31 IT SAYS, A MIGHTY WIND FILLED THE HOUSE WHERE THEY WERE SITTING.
  • 05:37 THIS PROBABLY IS THE HOUSE.
  • 05:41 AND IN THIS ROOM, JESUS TAUGHT SOME THINGS SO GERMANE TO THE FAITH.
  • 05:47 LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED, YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
  • 05:54 REMEMBER THEY ARE ALREADY JEWS BELIEVING IN GOD.
  • 05:58 THIS PASSAGE INDICATES THAT YOU NEED MORE THAN THE LAW TO BE SAVED.
  • 06:03 YOU NEED ALSO TO BELIEVE IN THE MESSIAH.
  • 06:14 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE GARDEN TOMB YESTERDAY.
  • 06:16 THESE MANY MANSIONS, BRIDAL CHAMBERS, WE'RE MANY BRIDES IN THE CHURCH.
  • 06:21 BUT, THERE'S A MANSION FOR EACH OF US IN HEAVEN AND HE'S GONE TO PREPARE THOSE PLACES.
  • 06:28 AND HE GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO SAY.
  • 06:29 IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU
  • 06:33 HE WOULDN'T ASK US TO WAIT A LIFETIME AND CARRY THIS CROSS
  • 06:36 IF HE WEREN'T REALLY COMING BACK FOR US.
  • 06:39 AND I OFTEN THINK THERE ARE CHURCHES THAT TEACH HE'S NOT COMING BACK FOR THEM,
  • 06:44 AND I THINK THEY'RE RIGHT.
  • 06:48 THIS IS SO GERMANE TO CHRISTIANITY.
  • 06:51 WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND AN EARTHLY RELIGION?
  • 06:55 AS PASTOR VAN DER HOEVEN OF THE FORMER CHRISTIAN EMBASSY CAME TO OUR GROUP ONE TIME AND SAID,
  • 07:02 IF I GO TO THE TOMB OF MOHAMMED, IT'S SEALED. HE'S IN THERE.
  • 07:08 IF I GO TO THE TOMB OF BUDDHA, IT'S SEALED. HE'S IN HIS TOMB.
  • 07:15 IF I CRY TO THOSE PERSONALITIES, HELP ME.
  • 07:19 THEY WOULD ANSWER, HELP YOU. I COULDN'T HELP MYSELF.
  • 07:25 BUT WE WENT TO THE TOMB OF JESUS YESTERDAY.
  • 07:29 WAS THERE A BODY? YOU EXAMINED THE GRAVE.
  • 07:32 IT'S EMPTY.
  • 07:34 HE'S GONE, GONE TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR US.
  • 07:36 IT'S BEAUTIFUL THAT WE HAVE AN EMPTY TOMB.
  • 07:40 WE DON'T WORSHIP AN EMPTY TOMB, BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF EVIDENCE.
  • 07:44 WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD BUILD SUCH A TOMB OUT OF STONE AND PAY FOR THAT
  • 07:48 AND NEVER USE IT, EXCEPT A MAN OF THE KINDNESS AND FAITH OF JOSEPH OF ARAMETHEA.
  • 07:55 JESUS WENT ON,
  • 08:06 WE REALIZED YESTERDAY THAT THIS IS A PROPOSAL OF MARRIAGE,
  • 08:09 THIS WHOLE IDEA OF HIS GOING TO HEAVEN LIKE THE BRIDEGROOM
  • 08:12 GOES TO HIS FATHER'S HOUSE AND PREPARES A PLACE FOR THE BRIDE,
  • 08:16 HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND TAKE US THERE.
  • 08:18 IT'S A ROMANTIC THING.
  • 08:20 IT'S IN THE BOOK OF LUKE, JESUS SAYS
  • 08:23 WITH DESIRE, HAVE I DESIRED TO EAT THIS PASSOVER WITH YOU.
  • 08:28 SO IT'S A LOVE STORY.
  • 08:29 AND I CALL IT THE CHRISTIAN LOVE STORY WHEN I TEACH IT.
  • 08:32 I ALSO CALL IT "CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE ENGAGED".
  • 09:01 WOW, IT'S THE ANSWER TO ALL THOSE WHO SAY HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH.
  • 09:06 EITHER HE CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH OR HE'S COMPLETELY CRAZY.
  • 09:10 WHICH OF US CAN SAY, I AM THE WAY, NOBODY COMES TO GOD BUT THROUGH ME?
  • 09:14 ONLY ONE PERSON CAN SAY THAT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT.
  • 09:18 I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE
  • 09:20 (SPEAKING HEBREW) THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE.
  • 09:27 AND THAT ANSWERED THOMAS.
  • 09:29 HE DIDN'T SPEAK UP AGAIN.
  • 09:31 BUT, THEN PHILIP SPOKE UP AND HE SAID
  • 09:40 HE SAID SHOW US HERE IN THIS ROOM WHAT ABRAHAM NEVER SAW,
  • 09:47 WHAT KING SOLOMAN NEVER SAW, WHAT JOB NEVER SAW, WHAT NOAH NEVER SAW.
  • 09:52 SHOW US ALMIGHTY GOD AND WE'LL BELIEVE YOU.
  • 09:58 WHAT A STATEMENT.
  • 10:00 JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO SAY,
  • 10:03 WELL, YOU KNOW PHILIP, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU GOD REAL SOON HERE.
  • 10:06 I'M GOING SEND YOU ON AHEAD OF US.
  • 10:09 BUT, HE WAS MUCH KINDER THAN THAT.
  • 10:42 HE HAD SEEN ENOUGH TO KNOW.
  • 10:45 THE DISCIPLES CONDITION OF OBJECTIONS AND QUESTIONS, THEY WERE LIKE US.
  • 10:51 THEY WEREN'T PERFECT IN THEIR FAITH.
  • 10:53 PETER IS GOING ON HERE SHORTLY AND DENY HE EVEN KNEW THE MAN, THREE TIME OVER.
  • 10:59 THOMAS DOUBTS EVERYTHING HE SEES.
  • 11:02 PHILLIP ASKS ANNOYING QUESTIONS.
  • 11:04 JUDAS TURNED HIM IN ALTOGETHER.
  • 11:06 THAT'S FOUR OUT OF TWELVE.
  • 11:07 THAT'S A THIRD OF THE ONE'S HE CHOSE THAT WENT SOUR MORE OR LESS.
  • 11:14 BUT, THEN PETER RECOVERED BY THE TIME OF PENTECOST, DIDN'T HE.
  • 11:17 IT'S ONLY 7 WEEKS LATER AND HE PREACHED A SERMON FROM THE PROPHET JOEL AND OBSCURE PSALMS.
  • 11:23 I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO THE LORD'S 40 DAY BIBLE SCHOOL.
  • 11:26 HE SAYS HE WAS WITH THEM FORTY DAYS AND HE TAUGHT THEM THE THINGS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
  • 11:32 WHAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THAT 6 WEEK BIBLE COURSE?
  • 11:35 THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 11:36 THAT'S WHERE THE KINGDOM OF GOD ARE WRITTEN.
  • 11:39 IN EZEKIEL, IN ISAIAH, IN JEREMIAH
  • 11:42 THE LION WILL LIE DOWN WITH THE LAMB,
  • 11:43 MEN SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE IN MY HOLY MOUNTAIN.
  • 11:46 UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, A SON IS GIVEN.
  • 11:52 THOSE ARE THE THINGS HE TAUGHT THEM.
  • 11:53 BOY, WHEN THEY GOT DONE WITH THAT 6 WEEKS,
  • 11:55 THEY WERE CHANGED MEN AND THEY WENT ON AND CHANGED THE WORLD.
  • 11:59 BUT IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE WHEN JESUS DREW THE DIFFERENCE
  • 12:03 BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW IS WORLDLY RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY,
  • 12:10 THE BEAUTIFUL POINT THAT THE MESSIAH IS GOING TO RETURN.
  • 12:13 NONE OF THESE OTHER GODS IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRIP BACK.
  • 12:18 NONE ARE GOING TO TAKE US OUT OF HERE.
  • 12:24 FALSE MESSIAHS MAKE CLAIMS OF ALL KINDS EVEN TODAY, BUT, I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE SAY,
  • 12:40 ♪ HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH, ♪ HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH.
  • 13:16 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 13:20 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
  • 13:28 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
  • 13:35 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, PLEASE CALL
  • 13:45 YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, TONY, WE HAD A TOUR IN THE UPPER ROOM
  • 13:48 AND OTHER GROUPS STARTED TO COME IN.
  • 13:52 THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM NIGERIA, THERE WERE ORIENTALS,
  • 13:56 I MEAN THE WORLD SORT OF WALKED IN SO I WRAPPED UP OUR LESSON
  • 14:00 THINKING THE OTHER TEACHERS WOULD WANT TO SPEAK
  • 14:02 AND WE JUST USUALLY CLOSE OUR SERVICE WITH "AMAZING GRACE" AND AS WE SANG IT,
  • 14:09 ALL THOSE PEOPLE FROM ALL THOSE NATIONS SANG IT, EACH IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
  • 14:15 AND IT WAS LIKE PENTECOST.
  • 14:16 IT WAS VERY, VERY TOUCHING.
  • 14:19 I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GO INTO THE UPPER ROOM
  • 14:21 AND REALIZE THEY'RE IN THE VERY PRESENCE OF THE LORD, SOMETHING COMES OVER THEM.
  • 14:25 IT'S VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE AND VERY AUTHENTIC, I THINK.
  • 14:30 OUR PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TOUCHED AT THE TIMES OF TEACHING IN THE UPPER ROOM,
  • 14:34 THE TIME THEY CAN SPEND IN PRAYING AND THE SINGING TOGETHER.
  • 14:38 WE'RE REALLY IN AN INTERNATIONAL PLACE.
  • 14:41 THE LORD HEARS ALL PRAYERS IN ALL LANGUAGES.
  • 14:44 AND THAT'S WHEN OUR LORD SAID, I'LL GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU
  • 14:47 AND I'LL COME BACK AND TAKE YOU THERE SO YOU CAN BE WHERE I AM.
  • 14:50 MOHAMMED IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR A TRIP BACK AND NEITHER IS BUDDHA BUT, OUR LORD IS.
  • 14:56 WELL, WE WENT THEN AND TALKED WITH PRIME MINISTER BARAK ABOUT THE PEACE PROCESS.
  • 15:11 AN OFFER WAS PUT ON THE TABLE BY AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
  • 15:14 THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR END OF CONFLICT AND CERTAIN ISRAELI SECURITY DEMANDS,
  • 15:19 WOULD GIVE THE PALESTINIANS AN INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN STATE,
  • 15:23 NO PROVISIONARY, INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN STATE CONTIGUOUS OVER 90+% OF THE WEST BANK
  • 15:29 AND 100% OF THE GAZA STRIP WITH A RIGHT OF RETURN FOR REFUGEES INTO THE PALESTINIAN STATE,
  • 15:37 OF COURSE, NOT IN TO ISRAEL AND EVEN CERTAIN FOOTHOLD IN EASTERN JERUSALEM
  • 15:42 IN THE ARAB POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS AS PART OF THEIR PALESTINIAN CAPITOL.
  • 15:48 THE OFFER WAS MUCH CLOSER TO THE PALESTINIAN DEMANDS THAN TO OURS,
  • 15:53 BUT I SAID WITH ALL MY RESERVATIONS, OUT OF NATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY,
  • 15:56 I AM READY TO TAKE IT AS A BASIS FOR NEGOTIATION IF THE OTHER SIDE WILL.
  • 16:02 I FOUND OUT THAT ARAFAT DID NOT, WAS NOT READY,
  • 16:06 WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM AND TRIED SINCE THEN TO TURN TO TERRORISM
  • 16:10 IN ORDER TO DICTATE HIS DEMANDS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEVER YIELD TO
  • 16:15 AND I BELIEVE THAT IT GAINED US, BOTH THE MORAL HIGH GROUND IN THE EYES OF HONEST PEOPLE
  • 16:19 AND THE ULTIMATELY HONEST GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD
  • 16:22 AS WELL AS THE UNITY THAT WE ENJOY NOW, FACING THIS DAILY STRUGGLE AGAINST TERROR.
  • 16:28 THIS IS NOT CONFLICT ABOUT LANDS WHEN WE WILL COME IN THE FUTURE
  • 16:35 TO DAYS IN WHICH THE CONFLICT WILL BE ABOUT BORDERS OR LANDS, THEN WE CAN SOLVE IT.
  • 16:41 IT'S ABOUT EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN.
  • 16:48 LET'S ADOPT FOR THIS TALK, THE IDEA OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
  • 16:57 AND ALSO PRESIDENT BUSH'S VISION ABOUT HOW TO END THE CONFLICT IN A 2 STATE SOLUTION.
  • 17:04 NOW, USUALLY YOU CAN FIND PALESTINIANS TALKING ABOUT THE NEED OF 2 STATE SOLUTION
  • 17:10 AND ABOUT THE NEED AND OBLIGATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
  • 17:14 TO ESTABLISH A NEW PALESTINIAN STATE AS HOMELAND OF PALESTINIANS.
  • 17:21 BUT THEN, ALSO IN TABA AND CAMP DAVID 2 YEARS AGO,
  • 17:27 ARAFAT, THAT COULD HAVE CELEBRATED NOW,
  • 17:29 THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF A PALESTINIAN STATE, SAID NO.
  • 17:33 AND WHY, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LAND, BECAUSE HE DEMANDED THEN,
  • 17:40 THE RIGHT OF RETURN OF REFUGEES TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 17:44 NOW IF THE CONCEPT IS THAT THE PALESTINIAN NARRATIVE
  • 17:46 IS THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL IS THE DAY OF DISASTER, OK,
  • 17:55 AND THERE'S A NEED TO ESTABLISH A NEW HOMELAND FOR PALESTINIANS,
  • 17:58 HOW COME HE STILL DEMANDS THAT THE 2 STATES
  • 18:03 ISRAEL AND PALESTINE WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT PEOPLE OR INDIVIDUALS OF HIS OWN PEOPLE.
  • 18:14 WE WILL NEVER BE APOLOGETIC ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WON AND SURVIVED THE RULES
  • 18:19 THAT WERE IMPOSED UPON US BY THE PALESTINIANS AND THE ARAB WORLD.
  • 18:25 WE RESPECT THEM. WE UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS.
  • 18:28 WE ARE READY TO STRETCH OUR ONE HAND TO MAKE PEACE,
  • 18:32 BUT WE WILL NEVER LOSE OUR SIGHT FROM THE SWEATS FROM OUR OTHER HAND
  • 18:36 FROM HAVING A FINGER ON THE TRIGGER TO DEFEND OURSELVES.
  • 18:42 WE ARE LIVING IN, NOT IN THE MIDWEST, BUT IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 18:46 THAT'S TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT LOOK REALITY IN THE EYE
  • 18:52 AND READY TO FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES, WOULD NOT SURVIVE.
  • 18:57 MY MOTHER CALLED ME ONE DAY AND SHE WAS VERY UPSET.
  • 19:00 IT WAS AFTER ONE THE SUICIDE BOMBER ATTACKS IN OUR CITY
  • 19:06 AND SHE SAID, IT TOOK ME BACK TO 1929 WHEN SHE WAS A YOUNG GIRL, A CHILD IN HAIFA
  • 19:20 AND SHE REMEMBERED THEN THAT SHE HAD TO HIDE
  • 19:25 BECAUSE ARABS RAN AFTER JEWISH PEOPLE WITH KNIVES CALLING
  • 19:29 (SPEAKING ARABIC) AND KILL ALL THE JEWS.
  • 19:33 SO, WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING OR THINKING ABOUT THIS CONFLICT,
  • 19:39 IT'S NOT ABOUT BORDERS, IT'S ABOUT A CONFLICT THAT GOES SO MANY YEARS.
  • 19:46 IF WE WANT TO STICK TO ANY PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS PROMISED TO US BY THE ALMIGHTY,
  • 19:55 WE'LL END UP WITH HAVING WITHIN OUR BORDERS, MAYBE ONE THIRD OR 30% OR 40% OF PALESTINIANS.
  • 20:05 NOW, IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POLITICAL UNIT BETWEEN THE JORDAN RIVER,
  • 20:10 SEVERAL DOZEN MILES TO THE EAST AND THE MEDITERRANEAN ABOUT ONE TO TWO MILES TO THE WEST HERE.
  • 20:17 THERE LIVE 10 MILLION PEOPLE.
  • 20:19 IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POLITICAL UNIT CALLED ISRAEL OF THIS AREA
  • 20:24 AND 6.5 ARE ISRAELI AND 6.5 ARE PALESTINIAN
  • 20:28 IT WILL BECOME INEVITABLY EITHER NON-JEWISH OR NON-DEMOCRATIC.
  • 20:34 IF THEY CAN VOTE AS A COLLECTIVE, IT'S A BI-NATIONAL STATE PAR EXCELLENCE.
  • 20:38 IF THEY CANNOT VOTE, IT'S AN APARTHEID SYSTEM PAR EXCELLENCE.
  • 20:42 NEITHER IS DISONI'S DREAM.
  • 20:44 SO, THIS IS PAINFUL FOR ME AND I WAS CRITICIZED BY MY SUPPORTERS ON THE LEFT
  • 20:49 FOR SHOWING TOO MUCH SYMPATHY, EMOTION TO THE SETTLERS.
  • 20:54 THEY ARE REALLY PIONEERS, BUT WE SHOULD REALIZE THAT THERE IS A CONTRADICTION HERE
  • 20:59 BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF JEWISH IDENTITY,
  • 21:03 WHICH MEANS TO SET A BORDER WITHIN WHICH WE'LL HAVE A JEWISH MAJORITY
  • 21:08 SOLELY TO ONE FULL GENERATION IN OUR AFFILIATION EMOTIONAL AND OTHERWISE TO ALL THESE PLACES.
  • 21:16 WE HAVE TO LET THE HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS BECOME A PALESTINIAN STATE
  • 21:20 WITHOUT LOSING OUR SITE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP TO IT
  • 21:24 AND CONCENTRATE ON A SLIGHTLY SMALLER, BUT MUCH MORE HOMO- GENEOUS JEWISH DEMOCRATIC STATE
  • 21:31 THAT WILL BE STRONG AND STABLE HERE FOREVER.
  • 21:45 PRIME MINISTER BARAK SUPPORTS THIS LAND FOR PEACE IDEA.
  • 21:49 FRANKLY, I DISAGREE AND SO DO MANY OTHERS.
  • 21:52 I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY PRECEDENT FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR LAND
  • 21:55 JUST SO SOMEBODY WON'T ATTACK THEM.
  • 21:57 WE TALK ABOUT THIS CONCEPT THAT ISRAEL IS SOMEHOW GOLIATH
  • 22:04 AND THE POOR PALESTINIANS AMOUNT TO THE TEENAGE YOUNGSTER DAVID
  • 22:09 IN SOME KIND OF VERY UNEVEN BATTLE.
  • 22:13 WHEN EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THIS CONFLICT,
  • 22:16 IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE THE BIGGER, WE HAVE THE POWER, WE HAVE THE WEAPONS
  • 22:20 AND THE PALESTINIANS ARE THE UNDERDOG IN THE STORY.
  • 22:23 BUT, FOR US, IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE AFTER ALL WE'VE PASSED,
  • 22:31 EVEN AFTER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND BEFORE IN THE HOLOCAUST
  • 22:36 AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT OUR MORAL STANDARDS PREVENTS US AND WILL PREVENT US IN THE FUTURE,
  • 22:45 TO USE THE POWER JUST TO DEMOLISH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PALESTINIANS CITIES,
  • 22:52 WE FEEL VERY VULNERABLE IN THIS CONFLICT
  • 22:57 AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A NEED FOR US IN EVERY AGREEMENT
  • 23:01 TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE NEXT GENERATION.
  • 23:08 I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FACING A WORLD WAR AGAINST TERROR AND IT WILL TAKE YEARS,
  • 23:15 MAYBE HALF A GENERATION, NOT SEVERAL MONTHS OR A YEAR OR TWO
  • 23:20 AND THERE IS NO WAY, NOTHING TO MAKE A SHORTCUT.
  • 23:26 IT'S GOING TO BE A MARATHON NOT A SPRINT
  • 23:28 AND NOTHING SHORT OF COMPLETE AND UNCONDITIONAL VICTORY OVER RADICAL MUSLIM TERROR WILL DO.
  • 23:39 WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IT WELL.
  • 23:41 THE OBJECTIVES OF THESE TERRORISTS ARE,
  • 23:45 NUMBER ONE, TO ROOT THE U.S. PRESENCE AND INFLUENCE
  • 23:51 ON THE SAUDI ARABIAN PENINSULA OUT OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.
  • 23:56 NUMBER TWO, IS TO TOPPLE DOWN THE RELATIVELY PRAGMATIC MODERATE ARABIC REGIME
  • 24:02 AND THE OBSESSIONS THEN MOVE ON TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.
  • 24:07 I WATCHED ON TV, THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW OF A PALESTINIAN MOTHER
  • 24:10 AFTER HER SON, 15 YEARS OLD, WAS A SUICIDE BOMBER
  • 24:18 AND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SENDING THE OTHER SON,
  • 24:21 SO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT A WAR SOLDIER AGAINST SOLDIERS,
  • 24:25 THIS IS THE KIND OF WAR THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN.
  • 24:29 I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH LIKE THE PIRATES,
  • 24:32 THE WAY THAT OUR FOREFATHERS DEALT WITH PIRATES ON THE HIGH SEAS.
  • 24:36 NAMELY, EVERY VESSEL BECAME A TARGET.
  • 24:41 NO PORT WAS ALLOWED TO HARBOR THEM OR GIVE THEM FRESH FOOD OR FRESH WATER
  • 24:48 AND WHOEVER VIOLATED, BECAME AUTOMATICALLY ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD.
  • 24:53 IT TOOK OUR FOREFATHERS SOME 20 YEARS TO ACHIEVE A SEA CHANGE
  • 24:58 AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FACING THE SAME ROOT BASICALLY THE STRATEGY
  • 25:04 AND THE POLICIES THAT ARE TAKEN BY THE AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH
  • 25:11 SET A VERY HIGH STANDARD OF MORAL AND STRATEGIC CLARITY
  • 25:18 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN
  • 25:22 IS THAT ALL THE DEBATES THAT WE HAVE, WE SEE IT IN AMERICA SO TYPICALLY
  • 25:26 AND ALL THE WORLD ARENA WILL NOT DILUTE THIS CLARITY.
  • 25:43 THERE REALLY ARE NO SURPRISES IN THE ISRAEL SITUATION TODAY.
  • 25:47 PROPHECY PREDICTS IT ALL.
  • 25:50 HEAR THE PALESTINIANS DENY ISRAEL'S EXISTENCE,
  • 25:52 THEY USE TERROR, THEY TELL LIES, THEY ARE CHEATS.
  • 25:56 I'M SORRY TO PUT IT IS SUCH PLAIN WORDS, BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
  • 26:00 THEY ACCUSE ISRAELIS OF BARBAROUS THINGS.
  • 26:03 THEIR TV NOW SHOWS ISRAELI SOLDIERS, SUPPOSEDLY CUTTING OFF PEOPLES HEADS AND SO FORTH,
  • 26:09 LIES AND MORE LIES, PROPAGANDA AND SO ON.
  • 26:14 I DON'T FAVOR THIS LAND FOR PEACE THING.
  • 26:17 OF COURSE, THEY WANT THE LAND.
  • 26:20 BUT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE PEACE.
  • 26:21 THEY SIMPLY WANT THE WHOLE LAND.
  • 26:23 WHERE WE'RE GOING IS INVASIONS LIKE GOG AND MAGOG AND FINALLY ARMAGEDDON
  • 26:28 IN THE UNBELIEVERS UNDENIABLE QUEST TO GET THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL.
  • 26:33 THAT'S THE WHOLE REST OF SECULAR HISTORY.
  • 26:36 WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE GOING TO
  • 26:39 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Stand For Truth
  2. Israel and “Palestine” (Celebrating 75 Trips to the Holy Land)
  3. Roots Run Deep
  4. A Place in History
  5. On a Mission
  6. Raised to Walk
  7. On the Outside
  8. For the Future
  9. Top to Bottom
  10. The Last Words

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