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Series: “The Crusaders”
Coalition forces, including American soldiers, are commonly referred to as “Crusaders” in Iraq and Afghanistan. Zola Levitt Presents takes a revealing look at the real Crusaders of a thousand years ago, and shows that the present accusation is unfair.
Episode: “The Real War on Terrorism”
From the Western Wall area, Zola talks about rising anti-Semitism around the world. In Israel there is no “cycle of violence.” On the contrary, Jerusalem is forever. He then continues his interview with Dore Gold, former UN ambassador, regarding the need for Israel to maintain some sovereignty in the West Bank.

Caption transcript for The Crusaders: “The Real War on Terrorism” (4/8)

  • 00:06 IN 1095 POPE URBAN II DECREED THAT THE CENTER OF THE KNOWN WORLD, JERUSALEM,
  • 00:13 SHOULD BE FREED FROM MUSLIM CONTROL.
  • 00:15 SPURRED BY RELIGIOUS FERVOR, >>WARRIORS MARCHED UNABATED ACROSS >>EUROPE TOWARDS THE HOLY LAND,
  • 00:22 LEAVING DEATH AND DEVASTATION IN THEIR WAKE.
  • 00:25 IN THE END, UPWARDS OF 30,000 >>MUSLIMS AND JEWS WERE MASSACRED >>IN JERUSALEM ALONE.
  • 00:31 THIS WAS CALLED "A HOLY WAR". >>THESE WERE THE CRUSADERS.
  • 00:43 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:44 WELCOME BACK TO OUR SERIES ABOUT THE CRUSADERS.
  • 00:48 THE CRUSADERS TURNED OUT TO BE >>MAJOR ANTI-SEMITES,
  • 00:51 THAT IS ANTI-JEWISH AND ANTI-ARAB FOR THAT MATTER. THE ARABS ARE ALSO SEMITES.
  • 00:56 WE ARE HAVING THIS PROBLEM REOCCUR IN TODAY'S WORLD IN A VERY BIG WAY.
  • 01:02 LATER IN OUR PROGRAM WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO U.N. AMBASSADOR, DORE GOLD
  • 01:08 WHO HAS A LOT TO SAY ON THIS SUBJECT.
  • 01:11 FIRST, WE WENT TO THE WESTERN WALL, THE HEART OF JUDAISM
  • 01:16 AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TROUBLE,
  • 01:18 ESPECIALLY THE EUROPEANS ARE GIVING TO ISRAEL THESE DAYS.
  • 01:32 WELL, HERE WE ARE, BACK AT THE >>CENTER OF THE EARTH
  • 01:34 AND AS USUAL THERE IS BALAGAN, >>CONFUSION, CHAOS.
  • 01:38 THE DOME OF THE ROCK IS BEHIND ME. >>THE WESTERN WALL IS BEHIND ME.
  • 01:43 PEOPLE ARE IN PRAYER, BOTH PLACES.
  • 01:45 LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF FENCES AND THE NUMBER OF POLICE AND THE NUMBER OF SOLDIERS
  • 01:50 AND YOU GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WHERE INTERSECTION >>OF RELIGIONS OCCURS
  • 01:57 AND WHERE, I'M AFRAID, ANTI-SEMITISM PROMPTS US TO MAKE A PROGRAM.
  • 02:05 IT'S THIS LATEST EUROPEAN SLANDER;
  • 02:07 IMAGINE SAYING THAT "ISRAEL IS A THREAT TO WORLD PEACE".
  • 02:13 SORRY IF I'M LAUGHING.
  • 02:14 I'VE COME HERE 77 TIMES IN 30 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER HAD SO MUCH AS A STUBBED FINGER.
  • 02:20 THERE'S NO ACTION HERE TO SPEAK OF.
  • 02:22 YES, THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS OUT IN THE-- AND I'M NOT BELITTLING >>THEM, BUT IN AMERICA, TOO,
  • 02:28 PEOPLE ARE SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS, >>PEOPLE BLOW THINGS UP.
  • 02:30 IF ALL THE BOMBS WENT THAT WENT >>OFF IN ISRAEL SINCE 1948 WERE ADDED TOGETHER,
  • 02:36 THEY WOULD NOT EQUAL THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
  • 02:38 I'M JUST COMPARING LAND TO LAND.
  • 02:40 OF COURSE, AMERICA WAS ALSO INDICTED BY THIS EUROPEAN SLANDER.
  • 02:44 AMERICA IS ALSO CONSIDERED A DANGER TO WORLD PEACE BY THE EUROPEANS
  • 02:48 AND YOU HAVE TO ASK, ARE THE >>PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED THE SURVEY >>SIMPLY OUT OF THEIR MINDS
  • 02:53 OR ARE THEY PREJUDICED AGAINST >>PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRACIES AND FREE LANDS
  • 02:59 OR WHAT ARE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY SAY THAT?
  • 03:02 NOW, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE BUT >>THE PROBLEM WITH ANTI-SEMITISM, >>ANTI-ISRAELISM,
  • 03:09 WHICH ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
  • 03:11 YOU CAN'T SAY YOU LIKE YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS,
  • 03:14 BUT I DISLIKE THE POLICIES OF THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL.
  • 03:17 CAN YOU SAY THAT YOU LIKE THE FRENCH PEOPLE, BUT YOU HATE THEIR COUNTRY?
  • 03:22 IT'S THE SAME THING.
  • 03:24 IT'S JUST THAT ANTI-SEMITISM NOW IS TAKING A FORM OF ANTI-ISRAELISM, IF YOU LIKE,
  • 03:31 AND THE PROBLEM IN BOTH, I THINK, IS WITH GOD.
  • 03:35 IT'S NOT ABOUT THE JEWS. MOST ANTI-SEMITES DON'T EVEN KNOW ANY JEWS.
  • 03:39 THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOD >>AND GOD IS EVERYWHERE EVIDENCED
  • 03:44 BY THE PRESENCE OF THE JEWS AND BY ISRAEL.
  • 03:47 THEY CAN'T ADMIT OUTLOUD THAT THEY'RE NOT RIGHTLY RELATED TO GOD
  • 03:50 OR EVEN THAT THEY HATE GOD, WHICH IS TRUE IN SOME CASES.
  • 03:54 BUT, THEY ACT IT OUT IN THEIR HATRED OF WHAT GOD HAS CHOSEN
  • 03:59 AND WHAT GOD HAS MADE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND ISRAEL.
  • 04:03 IT'S TRUE IN EUROPE, >>IN FRANCE, ENGLAND AND GERMANY.
  • 04:06 THEY HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF HATING THE JEWS. IT'S NOT A NEW SITUATION.
  • 04:10 A THOUSAND YEARS AGO, WHEN THEY MURDERED JEWS ON THE WAY TO THE CRUSADES,
  • 04:14 THERE WAS NO WEST BANK TO TALK ABOUT, NO OCCUPATION BY THE JEWS OF SOME KIND OF ARAB LAND, ETC.
  • 04:22 THAT'S COMPLETELY-- AND YET THEY STILL EVIDENCE THE SAME HATRED
  • 04:26 AND IN THE HOLOCAUST, >>ISRAEL WAS NOT A JEWISH NATION >>AT ALL AS YET.
  • 04:32 THE SAME ANTI-SEMITISM WAS THERE. THE PROBLEM IS WITH GOD.
  • 04:36 BETWEEN THE EUROPEANS AND EVEN >>AMERICAN MILITIAS AND >>KU KLUX KLAN AND ALL THE REST,
  • 04:43 THE PROBLEM IS NOT ABOUT THE >>JEWS REALLY, IT JUST COMES OUT >>THAT WAY.
  • 04:50 UNBELIEVERS EVERYWHERE RESENT THE JEWS AND ISRAEL.
  • 04:53 THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. THE ARE DOING THEIR JOB.
  • 04:57 THE JEWS ARE A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE.
  • 05:01 ISRAEL IS A PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL DEMOCRACY, A FREE COUNTRY RUNNING LIKE A WATCH,
  • 05:07 PRODUCTIVE, ALL TAKEN TOGETHER, >>THERE'S NO FAULT, REALLY,
  • 05:14 TO BE HATED BY ANYONE OR EVEN DISLIKED BY ANYONE.
  • 05:17 ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT'S SORT OF >>BIBLICAL IS THAT IT IS PROPHESIED
  • 05:22 THAT ANTI-SEMITISM WILL BE A >>SIGN OF THE END AND IT HAS BEEN >>GROWING
  • 05:26 THROUGH ALL THE TIME OF THE AGES >>SINCE THE LORD WAS HERE AND THROUGH THE MIDDLE AGES,
  • 05:37 BUT AT THE END IN PARTICULAR, MATT 24:9 SPECIFIES,
  • 05:46 WHY ALL THE NATIONS WOULD HATE A NATION OF 5 MILLION PEOPLE IS, >>THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN.
  • 05:54 WHEN I WAS IN CHICAGO, I SAID, >>CARELESSLY WITH OLD FIGURES IN MY HEAD,
  • 06:00 ISRAEL IS THE SAME SIZE AS CHICAGO, NO, NO.
  • 06:04 CHICAGO IS 5 TIMES THE SIZE OF ISRAEL.
  • 06:06 THE WHOLE WORLD IS NOT COMING DOWN ON CHICAGO OR ANY CITY THAT SIZE.
  • 06:11 THIS IS A VERY SMALL COUNTRY, >>REALLY AN UNIMPORTANT COUNTRY.
  • 06:15 IT'S JUST HATRED OF JEWS THAT BRINGS THE ATTENTION AT THIS COUNTY
  • 06:21 AND IT IS A MATTER OF PROPHECY.
  • 06:23 AS WE GO ON, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE INVASION OF GOG AND MAGOG.
  • 06:26 I HAVE IN THE PAST, CONNECTED >>THE ROADMAP TO PEACE WITH THIS >>UPCOMING INVASION
  • 06:32 WHERE ONE LEADS THE OTHER AND FINALLY EVEN ARMAGEDDON.
  • 06:36 THE ROADMAP IS LEADING THERE.
  • 06:37 WE MADE A SERIES OF PROGRAMS >>CALLED "ROADMAP TO ARMAGEDDON".
  • 06:40 THE WHOLE REST OF WORLD HISTORY >>OF THE UNBELIEVER UNTIL THE KINGDOM STARTS
  • 06:46 IS ABOUT GETTING THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL, IT'S ABOUT ANTI-SEMITISM >>AND ANTI-ISRAELISM
  • 06:53 AND THAT'S BIBLICALLY STATED AND >>IT'S GOING ON IN REALITY.
  • 06:59 THE NEXT FACTOR IS MONEY. >>THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL BIBLICALLY.
  • 07:04 OIL, THAT'S THE ROOT OF A LOT OF >>THE CONFLICT HERE,
  • 07:09 THE ARABS HAVE IT, THE EUROPEANS WANT IT, THE AMERICANS WANT IT.
  • 07:13 IT'S RUNNING THE ECONOMIES OF THE WORLD AND OF COURSE,
  • 07:17 THE RESULT IS A PARTISANSHIP TOWARD THE ARABS, TOWARD THE PALESTINIANS
  • 07:23 AND IT'S NOT TO BE CONQUERED OTHER THAN BY A LACK OF MATERIALISM
  • 07:30 AND A NEW INTEREST IN GOD AND IN FAITH AND IN THE RIGHT THINGS OF LIFE,
  • 07:35 NOT IN THE MATERIAL THINGS OR THINGS THAT ARE BOUGHT WITH MONEY.
  • 07:39 AND A FINAL POINT ABOUT >>ANTI-SEMITISM AND ANTI-ISRAELISM >>IS SIMPLE ENVY.
  • 07:46 THE JEWS CAN'T HELP BEING SUCCESSFUL.
  • 07:48 THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT AND GOD >>CHOSE ABRAHAM ARBOTRARILY, HE >>WAS A GENTILE WHEN GOD CHOSE HIM
  • 08:02 TO BE A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS, >>YOU HAVE TO BE CONTRIBUTORS,
  • 08:04 SUCCESSFUL AND PROGRESSIVE AND THEY ARE DOING IT. THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING IT.
  • 08:09 SO IT ENGENDERS A KIND OF ENVY WHEN THESE PEOPLE ARE SUCCESSFUL
  • 08:16 AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN IN EVERY NATION.
  • 08:17 I DON'T CARE IF YOU LOOK IN RUSSIA, EUROPE, AMERICA, LOOK BACK IN HISTORY,
  • 08:22 DOESN'T MATTER, THEY'RE ALWAYS >>SUCCESSFUL, ALWAYS HELPFUL.
  • 08:25 THEY DON NOT PERSECUTE PEOPLE, >>THEY DO NOT OCCUPY OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDS.
  • 08:29 AMONG THE WORLDS CIVILIZATIONS, THEY ARE ESPECIALLY INNOCENT OF >>ALL THESE THINGS
  • 08:37 AND A TERRIBLE JEALOUSY GROWS AROUND THEM.
  • 08:41 I'LL BE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
  • 08:50 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON >>WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND >>THE MIDDLE EAST,
  • 08:56 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY >>NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
  • 09:03 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG >>DESCRIBES HIS, BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
  • 09:11 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND >>CATALOG, PLEASE CALL.
  • 09:20 SO WHAT'S THE TRUTH ABOUT >>ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-ISRAELISM?
  • 09:26 WELL, AS I STAND HERE >>THE AL AQSA MOSQUE IS BEHIND ME
  • 09:29 AND THE PART OF THE WALL THAT'S ALREADY FELL BEHIND THE SCAFFOLD.
  • 09:33 YOU CAN SEE A SCAFFOLD PUT UP WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP THAT.
  • 09:36 WE CAN SEE THE MOUNT OF OLIVES >>IN THE BACKGROUND, >>THE MINARET OF A MUSLIM MOSQUE.
  • 09:42 I MEAN, IT'S A CARNIVAL HERE OF >>DIFFERENT RELIGIONS.
  • 09:44 THERE ARE JEWISH GRAVES ALL OVER THE MT. OF OLIVES BECAUSE THEY >>TOO HAVE READ ZECH 14:4
  • 09:50 AND KNOW THAT HIS FEET WILL STAND THAT DAY ON THE MT. OF OLIVES
  • 09:53 WHEN MESSIAH RETURNS AND THERE >>IS A GREAT RESURRECTION.
  • 09:57 SCHOOL CHILDREN ARE PASSING BY >>US AND WHEN MAKE A TV PROGRAM HERE,
  • 10:03 IT'S A LITTLE LIKE GOING TO THE CIRCUS.
  • 10:04 THE TRUTH IS, OKAY, ONE MAN'S OPINION, ISRAEL IS 100% BLAMELESS.
  • 10:13 THERE'S NO TRUTH AT ALL TO THE >>IDEA THAT THEY ARE BRUTAL OR TOUGH OR POWERFUL
  • 10:18 OR MEAN TO THE ARABS OR TOO HARSH WITH THE ARABS.
  • 10:21 THERE'S NO TRUTH TO THE IDEA THAT SHARON IS SOME KIND OF >>HARD-LINER, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
  • 10:27 N.Y. TIMES SAID THAT HARD-LINERS WANTED TO BUILD THE FENCE AROUND >>THE SETTLEMENT OF ARIEL.
  • 10:35 THAT'S THE HARD-LINE, SO I TOOK >>OFF WITH THAT AND I THOUGHT,
  • 10:39 WELL THEN, THE MIDDLE GROUND, >>REASONABLE PEOPLE MUST WANT TO >>EXPOSE THE SETTLERS AT ARIEL
  • 10:46 TO SUICIDE BOMBERS AND THE SOFT-LINERS PROBABLY WANT THE PEOPLE ARIEL
  • 10:50 TO JUST BLOW THEMSELVES UP >>WITHOUT CAUSING THE PALESTINIANS >>TO HAVE TO COME THERE.
  • 10:55 REALLY, JUST KIDDING, BUT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A HARD-LINE IN ISRAEL.
  • 11:01 PEOPLE ARE BEING MURDERED AND ISRAEL IS TRYING TO PROTECT THEM, THAT'S ALL.
  • 11:04 IF THIS IS A HARD-LINE, THEN IT'S A HARD-LINE
  • 11:06 THAT THE LOS ANGELES POLICE GO >>OUT AND POLICE GANGS OR NEW YORKERS POLICE DRUG DEALERS.
  • 11:12 IT'S ABSURD TO SAY "A CYCLE OF VIOLENCE". THERE'S NO SUCH THING HERE.
  • 11:17 THERE'S MURDERERS AND THERE'S PEOPLE TRYING TO PROTECT INNOCENT CIVILIANS.
  • 11:22 AS ONE JERUSALEM POST REPORTER >>PUT IT RECENTLY,
  • 11:27 THERE IS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN A >>FLY AND A FLY SWATTER.
  • 11:31 THE FLY PROTECTS HIMSELF AND ESCAPES, OR HE DOESN'T, THAT'S ALL.
  • 11:35 SECONDLY ISRAEL IS RATHER GENTLE >>ABOUT THIS, NOT HARSH AT ALL.
  • 11:39 YOU COMPARE SYRIA OF A FEW YEARS >>AGO WITH THE CITY OF HAMA
  • 11:45 WHICH CAUSED AN ISLAMIC REVOLUTION AGAINST THEN "PRESIDENT" OF SYRIA,
  • 11:52 THE DICTATOR SYRIA, HAFEZ AL ASSAD.
  • 11:54 HE BROUGHT HIS ARTILLERY AND BOMBERS AND HE KILLED 20,000 CIVILIANS,
  • 11:59 LEVELED THE TOWN, PAVED IT OVER, THAT'S A HARD-LINE.
  • 12:05 THIS IS NOT A HARD-LINE.
  • 12:06 CONSIDER SADDAM HUSSEIN GASSING 5,000 KURDISH PEOPLE AND HIS OWN CITIZENS.
  • 12:14 THAT IS A HARD-LINE.
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  • 12:15 IF YOU CONSIDER JENEEN, >>WHERE THE ISRAELIS ARE ACCUSED >>OF A MASSACRE,
  • 12:19 SOLDIERS WENT IN ON THEIR FEET >>AND THEY TOOK MANY CASUALTIES
  • 12:24 IN ORDER TO PROTECT CIVILIANS THAT WERE THERE.
  • 12:28 THEY COULD HAVE DONE THE JOB WITH AIRPLANES, WITH BOMBS,
  • 12:31 WITH THINGS WHERE THEY WOULDN'T >>LOSE ANY LIVES,
  • 12:34 BUT THEY CHOSE TO GO THE OTHER >>WAY AND THEN THE WORLD SAID THERE WAS A MASSACRE.
  • 12:39 RIDICULOUS! THERE WAS NO SUCH THING.
  • 12:42 THE THINGS GOING ON IN GAZA.
  • 12:44 ISRAELIS TARGET KILLERS LIKE THE >>FBI TARGETS MAFIA HIT-MEN.
  • 12:53 THIS IS POLICE WORK. THIS IS HOW THINGS ARE DONE.
  • 12:55 THEY CAN'T ARREST THEM HERE AND BRING THEM TO TRIAL BUT THEY SETTLE WITH THEM.
  • 13:00 THE ARABS ON CNN SCREAM ABOUT EACH CIVILIAN CASUALTY THAT HAPPENS
  • 13:06 AS SOME KIND OF COLLATERAL CASUALTY.
  • 13:09 THEN THE NEXT MORNING, THE PALESTINIANS,
  • 13:13 WHO ARE CRYING ABOUT SOMEBODY KILLED INADVERTENTLY,
  • 13:16 SEND A SUICIDE BOMBER TO A CAFE, TO A WEDDING, TO A RELIGIOUS SERVICE
  • 13:21 AND TRY TO KILL AS MANY CIVILIAN >>AS THEY CAN.
  • 13:23 IT'S A RIDICULOUS SITUATION THAT THE WORLD WOULD CONSIDER IT ANY >>KIND OF "CYCLE OF VIOLENCE"
  • 13:29 OR CONSIDER THAT ISRAEL IS >>TAKING SOME KIND OF HARD-LINE.
  • 13:33 ISRAEL IS A FREE DEMOCRACY, >>OF THAT, THE ARABS ARE JEALOUS.
  • 13:38 IT'S A U.S. ALLY, >>OF THAT, THE WORLD IS JEALOUS.
  • 13:43 IT IS BIBLICALLY THE COMING HEAD OF THE NATIONS.
  • 13:46 IF WE ARE TO TAKE THE SCRIPTURES >>LITERALLY, A MESSIANIC AGE IS COMING, AN AGE OF PEACE,
  • 13:51 1,000 YEAR KINGDOM, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT.
  • 13:54 AS TO THIS CITY, JERUSALEM, WELL, THE END OF THE SCRIPTURES SAYS
  • 13:59 GOD WILL MAKE A NEW HEAVEN, A NEW EARTH AND A NEW JERUSALEM.
  • 14:03 THIS CITY, THIS ONE CITY WHERE >>I STAND, IS FOREVER.
  • 14:17 THUS SAYETH THE LORD GOD, I SHALL GATHER YOU FROM THE PEOPLES
  • 14:21 AND ASSEMBLE OUT OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SCATTERED
  • 14:25 AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 14:28 THE WILDERNESS AND THE DRY LAND SHALL BE GLAD.
  • 14:31 THE DESERT SHALL REJOICE AND BLOSSOM AS THE ROSE.
  • 14:35 YOU SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE >>LORD WHEN I BRING YOU INTO THE >>LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 14:43 YES, COME ON TO A TOUR WITH US.
  • 14:45 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE IN MARCH AND JUNE THIS YEAR AND OCTOBER, >>AS ALWAYS.
  • 14:50 WE'VE NEVER STOPPED TAKING OUR TOURS. THERE'S NO REASON TO.
  • 14:53 IT'S MUCH SAFER IN ISRAEL THAN IT IS IN AMERICA
  • 14:55 AND I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU LIVE >>IN THE UNITED STATES, THAT'S TRUE.
  • 14:58 COMPARE AND EQUAL POPULATION IN >>ISRAEL WITH YOU POPULATION, >>YOU'LL FIND YOU'RE SAFER THERE.
  • 15:04 IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL THING FOR >>CHRISTIAN PEOPLE TO DO.
  • 15:08 IT'S A GRAND WITNESS. COME ON ONE OF OUR TOURS.
  • 15:11 WE TALKED WITH DORE GOLD AT SOME LENGTH BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE >>OSLO NEGOTIATORS.
  • 15:18 HE SAT DOWN WITH THE UNENVIABLE TASK OF TRYING TO HAMMER OUT A >>PEACE TREATY WITH THE ARABS
  • 15:25 WHO CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS.
  • 15:27 WE STARTED BY ASKING HIM HOW IT >>WAS TO DEAL DIRECTLY WITH YASSER ARAFAT.
  • 15:33 ARAFAT WAS A TREMENDOUS MYSTERY >>FOR ME WHEN I FIRST MET HIM
  • 15:37 BECAUSE I SAT ACROSS THE TABLE FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS JUST >>MAKING UP STORIES,
  • 15:43 MAKING UP TOTAL FABRICATIONS AND I WALKED AWAY FROM THE MEETING THINKING,
  • 15:47 HOW DID THIS GUY BECOME A WORLD LEADER THAT COULD WALK INTO THE >>ELYSEE PALACE IN FRANCE,
  • 15:53 HAVE THE RED CARPET ROLLED OUT TO HIM.
  • 15:56 HOW COME HE WASN'T THROWN DOWN THE STAIRS?
  • 15:57 IT TURNS OUT, ISRAEL FINALLY FOUND THE DOCUMENTS WHICH PROVED THAT
  • 16:02 WHEN ISRAELI FORCES IN OPERATION DEFENSIVE SHIELD WENT INTO HIS HEADQUARTERS.
  • 16:06 FOR EXAMPLE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AUTHORIZATIONS FOR PAYMENT, IN ARABIC, TO TANZIM,
  • 16:14 THAT'S MILITIA FATAH ORGANIZATION TO TANZIM OPERATIVES
  • 16:18 WHO ARE INVOLVED IN PREPARING SUICIDE BOMBINGS.
  • 16:21 YOU HAVE A REQUEST BY >>MARWAN BARGUTI THAT EACH SHOULD >>BE PAID $2,000 OR $1,000
  • 16:26 AND ARAFAT SAYS NO, $600 AND SIGNS IT, YASSER ARAFAT, IN ARABIC.
  • 16:31 SO WE HAVE PAYMENT TO SUICIDE BOMBERS BY YASSER ARAFAT
  • 16:36 WHICH WE CAN AUTHENTICATE IN HIS OWN HANDWRITING.
  • 16:38 EVEN BARGAINING. >>BARGAINING.
  • 16:39 SO HOW CAN ANYONE EXPECT THAT >>ANYBODY WHO AUTHORIZES SUICIDE >>BOMBERS AGAINST ISRAEL
  • 16:46 IS GOING TO MAKE PEACE WITH ISRAEL OR DISMANTLE HAMAS-ISLAMIC JIHAD
  • 16:51 OR HIS OWN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
  • 16:53 IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >>JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 16:57 IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 16:58 OKAY, I WANT TO ASK A WIDE-OPEN QUESTION,
  • 17:02 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S HARDLY A FAIR QUESTION.
  • 17:05 WHAT ARE YOU WORKING ON NOW, WHICH WAY'S THE GOVERNMENT GOING,
  • 17:09 WHAT'S THE FEEL FOR THE FUTURE?
  • 17:10 ISRAEL IS A COUNTRY THAT IS COMMITTED TO PEACE.
  • 17:13 PEACE IS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE >>FOR ISRAEL.
  • 17:15 THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE REACH PEACE?
  • 17:16 THE BEST WAY, IF WE COULD SIT >>WITH THE PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP
  • 17:20 THAT HAD A SENSE OF FAIR PLAY AND COMPROMISE,
  • 17:22 AND WE WOULD SIT ACROSS THE >>TABLE AND REACH A COMPROMISE AND >>WE'D SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE,
  • 17:28 WHATEVER IT IS AND WE WALK AWAY >>AND ANNOUNCE OUR ACHIEVEMENT.
  • 17:33 THAT'S PROBABLY THE HOPE OF MANY ISRAELIS.
  • 17:35 SAME TIME, IT'S MORE REALISTIC >>TO EXPECT THAT CONFLICTS OF THIS SORT
  • 17:40 ARE PROBABLY RESOLVED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 17:42 OFTEN TIMES THE PARTIES IN A >>CONFLICT OF THIS SORT EXCEPT A CERTAIN MODES OF VENUE EMERGES
  • 17:49 AND THAT MODES OF VENUE LATER ENSHRINED BY LAWYERS AS A PEACE AGREEMENT.
  • 17:54 BUT, WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE THE PEACE, WHICH IS PREFERABLE
  • 17:58 OR WHETHER WE HAVE TO EXCEPT A >>MODES OF VENUE, I'M NOT SURE.
  • 18:00 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MORE >>REALISTIC OUTLOOK AT HOW HARD >>ETHNIC CONFLICTS ARE RESOLVED.
  • 18:05 THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS WHAT IS THE END GAME?
  • 18:09 YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS ABSOLUTELY >>SURE THERE IS GOING TO BE A PALESTINIAN STATE.
  • 18:13 IS ANYONE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN >>THAT BOSNIA IS GOING TO REMAIN >>ONE COUNTRY?
  • 18:17 THAT THE CROATS, THE MUSLIMS >>AND THE SERBS DON'T SPLIT APART
  • 18:19 AND JOIN DIFFERENT EXISTING STATES PARTICULARLY THE CROATS AND THE SERBS.
  • 18:24 IS ANYONE CERTAIN THAT KOSOVO >>WILL BECOME INDEPENDENT, OR BE REINCORPORATED INTO YUGOSLAVIA?
  • 18:31 NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS. >>NO.
  • 18:32 NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO CYPRESS,
  • 18:34 DIVIDED BETWEEN TURKS AND GREEKS OR WILL IT STAY A UNITED ENTITY.
  • 18:41 NOBODY KNOWS.
  • 18:42 SO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN >>STATE WITH CERTAINTY WHAT IN 20 YEARS IS GOING TO EMERGE HERE.
  • 18:46 WHAT HAS TO EMERGE IS THAT ISRAEL HAS TO BE SAFE AND SECURE,
  • 18:49 PALESTINIANS HAVE TO HAVE POLITICAL RIGHTS THAT ARE PROTECTED
  • 18:52 AND WHERE THE BORDERS LIE AND WHAT ARE THE CONTOURS OF THE SETTLEMENT.
  • 18:57 WHAT'S THE ROLL OF JORDAN IN THE FUTURE?
  • 18:59 THAT'S UP FOR QUESTION.
  • 19:01 SINCE YOU BRING UP JORDAN, THERE ARE PLANS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE
  • 19:06 TO TRANSFER OR MAKE SOME ARRANGEMENT WITH JORDAN.
  • 19:09 THEY SAY IT REALLY WAS THE PALESTINIANS STATE, THAT WAS THE INTENTION TO START WITH
  • 19:14 AND EVERYBODY WILL BE BETTER OFF AND HAPPIER IF THE PALESTINIANS >>HERE WOULD VOLUNTEER
  • 19:19 TO MOVE ACROSS THE RIVER AND LET ISRAEL BE HERE AND LET THEM BE THERE
  • 19:23 UNLESS THEY SIGN UP FOR REAL >>ALLEGIANCE TO ISRAEL SINCERELY.
  • 19:28 I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE IN TRANSFER.
  • 19:31 I THINK IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS IDEA TO PUT FORWARD
  • 19:34 BECAUSE WHAT MIGHT SEEM AS A >>NEGOTIATED TRANSFER COULD END UP >>BEING A FORCED TRANSFER
  • 19:39 AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
  • 19:40 BUT WHAT IS TRUE IS THAT WHATEVER PALESTINIAN STATE EMERGES OR ENTITY EMERGES
  • 19:46 IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA CANNOT >>HAVE THE FULL SOVEREIGNTY THE PALESTINIANS ARE EXPECTING.
  • 19:53 EXAMPLE, TODAY IT TAKES, FOR A FIGHTER PLANE LIKE A SUHOI 24
  • 20:01 TO FLY FROM THE JORDAN RIVER >>TO THE MEDITERRANEAN, 3 MINUTES.
  • 20:07 3 MINUTES TO COVER THE WHOLE WEST BANK AND ISRAEL.
  • 20:10 NOW IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF 2, >>MAYBE 3 MINUTES TO PREPARE FOR >>ADEQUATE AIR DEFENSE
  • 20:15 SO YOU'RE GOING TO CUT >>ISRAEL'S 3 MINUTE WARNING TIME >>DOWN TO LESS,
  • 20:20 SO THEY CAN'T EVEN PROVIDE AN AIR DEFENSE,
  • 20:21 THAT'S WHY EVERY ISRAELI AIR FORCE COMMANDER
  • 20:24 HAS SAID THAT ISRAEL MUST HAVE CONTROL OVER THE AIR SPACE OVER >>THE WEST BANK
  • 20:28 EVEN IF A STATE EMERGES THERE >>OR SOME OTHER POLITICAL ENTITY.
  • 20:32 NOW, THAT MEANS THAT THE PALESTINIANS CAN PROBABLY EXPRESS
  • 20:35 THEIR FULL NATIONAL ASPIRATIONS IN THE CONTEXT OF JORDAN WHERE >>THEY ARE A MAJORITY.
  • 20:41 IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE JORDANIAN KINGDOM
  • 20:45 WHICH HAS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO THE UNITED STATES AND FRIENDLY TO ISRAEL.
  • 20:50 BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT IN THE LONG >>TERM OF THE FUTURE,
  • 20:54 THE REINTEGRATION OF THE PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK
  • 20:57 TO A JORDANIAN POLITICAL ENTITY >>SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE,
  • 21:01 BUT, THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF THE >>JORDANIANS WANT IT TO HAPPEN
  • 21:04 AND SEE IF THAT IS THE ROAD IN >>WHICH HISTORY IS MOVING.
  • 21:08 THE COMPROMISE YOU PUT FORWARD, >>GRANTING THE PALESTINIANS TERRITORY TO MAKE A STATE,
  • 21:16 AREN'T YOU AFRAID THAT THE SAME >>POLICIES WILL GO ON
  • 21:20 AND IN FACT THEY WILL HAVE A WAY TO IMPORT WEAPONS AND SOLDIERS >>AND SO ON,
  • 21:23 ONTO SOVEREIGN TERRITORY THEY NOW CONTROL, IF YOU GIVE THEM LAND IN THE WEST BANK?
  • 21:27 MY ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT ANY ARRANGEMENT THAT WE MAKE WITH THE PALESTINIANS,
  • 21:32 WITH RESPECT TO THE GOVERNMENTAL >>POWERS THEY HAVE OR THE TERRITORY THEY HAVE,
  • 21:37 HAS TO BE DONE, TAKING INTO >>ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THEY COULD >>VIOLATE THE AGREEMENT.
  • 21:42 I MEAN, THE LAST, THE 10 YEARS OF OSLO,
  • 21:44 WHEN HAVE THEY NOT VIOLATED IT?
  • 21:46 10 YEARS OF OSLO EXACTLY PROVED THAT,
  • 21:47 THAT WE ENDED UP WITH A >>FUNDAMENTAL MATERIAL BREACH OF >>THE MILITARY CLAUSES OF OSLO.
  • 21:55 THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 30,000 POLICEMEN, THEY HAVE OVER 50,000.
  • 21:58 THEY ARE TO HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF SECURITY SERVICES, >>THEY HAVE 10 SECURITY SERVICES.
  • 22:01 YOU CAN SEE WITH THE KARINE-A THEY TRIED TO IMPORT HERE KATYUSHA ROCKETS,
  • 22:08 THE SHIP,
  • 22:08 THE SHIP THAT ISRAEL INTERCEPTED IN THE RED SEA. >>THE
  • 22:09 KANE-A.
  • 22:12 THEY TRIED TO INPORT KATYUSHA ROCKETS,
  • 22:14 CENTEX EXPLOSIVES THAT WASN'T FOR OPENING STOVE QUARRIES.
  • 22:17 THEY WERE PLANNING TO, THEY VIOLATED ALL OF THEIR AGREEMENTS,
  • 22:24 THEREFORE, I THINK WHAT ISRAEL >>HAS TO HAVE IS AN ARRANGEMENT
  • 22:27 WHERE IT CONTROLS IT CONTROLS THE INTERNATIONAL PASSAGES.
  • 22:29 YOU CAN'T HAVE A PALESTINIAN STATE THAT IS CONTIGUOUS WITH JORDAN, FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 22:34 WHICH WOULD ALLOW ALL OF THAT SMUGGLED WEAPONRY THAT EXISTS IN WESTERN IRAQ,
  • 22:39 SYRIA, NORTHERN SAUDI ARABIA, ALL TO BE FUNNELED INTO THIS TERRITORY.
  • 22:45 WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN VERY FIRM CONTROL THERE.
  • 22:48 OUR SECURITY IS AT STAKE.
  • 22:49 WE HAVE TO ALSO NOT BE IN A POSITION WHERE A PALESTINIAN SNIPER
  • 22:52 COULD JUST TAKE A KALASHNIKOV RIFLE AND STRIKE AT THE TEL AVIV-HAIFA HIGHWAY
  • 23:01 WHICH IS WHY PRIME MINISTER SHARON HAS INSISTED THAT ALFEI MENASHE,
  • 23:04 A SETTLEMENT IN WESTERN SAMARIA WHERE THAT LINE OF SITE EXISTS >>REMAIN IN ISRAELI HANDS.
  • 23:11 SO IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN OSLO,
  • 23:16 AND WE LEARNED SPECIFIC LESSONS >>FROM THOSE MISTAKES,
  • 23:18 WE CAN FASHION A POLITICAL SETTLEMENT THAT IS SAFE FOR ISRAEL.
  • 23:21 BUT, IF WE JUST RUN AHEAD WITHOUT REMEMBERING ALL THE FAULTS
  • 23:24 AND MISTAKES THAT OCCURRED, WE CAN POSE A GREAT DANGER FOR ISRAEL.
  • 23:29 SINCE YOU WROTE ON SAUDI ARABIA, >>AND THEY ARE THE PURVEYORS OF WAHABISM,
  • 23:35 WHICH YOU HAVE ALSO EXAMINED, >>AND THEY SUPPORT THE PALESTINIAN >>CAUSE, APPARENTLY,
  • 23:43 THEY ARE LOUD ABOUT IT, WON'T THEY ALWAYS BE SAYING,
  • 23:47 NOW LOOK, WE HAVE THE OIL AND THEY'RE OUR COUSINS, WE WANT THEM TO GET AN EVEN BREAK,
  • 23:51 IS THERE NOT A TENSION HERE, A CONFLICT BETWEEN THEIR INTEREST
  • 23:57 AND THOSE OF THE UNITED STATES >>AND ISRAEL?
  • 23:58 I THINK THE CONFLICT IS EVEN BROADER BECAUSE THE WAHABIS INTRODUCED OR REINTRODUCED
  • 24:06 THE IDEA OF JIHAD, HOLY WAR, AGAINST THE INFIDELS,
  • 24:09 THAT'S THE KUFAR AND THEY REGARD >>CHRISTIANS, JEWS, HINDUS AS INFIDELS.
  • 24:14 THEY REGARD MUSLIMS THAT DON'T >>SUBSCRIBE TO THEIR PARTICULAR VIEW OF ISLAM AS INFIDELS.
  • 24:21 THEY'VE HISTORICALLY WAGED WARS AGAINST THEM, EVEN AGAINST THE >>SHIITE MUSLIMS.
  • 24:26 THEREFORE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEIR IDEOLOGY IS SPREAD GLOBALLY.
  • 24:31 I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I WENT, >>SAT WITH ONE OF MY EXPERTS AND >>WENT TO HAMAS' WEBSITE.
  • 24:37 WE WANTED TO SEE WHO WERE THE CLERICS THAT THE HAMAS WERE LOOKING TO,
  • 24:43 TO JUSTIFY SUICIDE BOMBINGS >>AGAINST ISRAEL AND THE MAJORITY >>WERE SAUDI CLERICS.
  • 24:48 SAME IS TRUE FOR THE MUJAHIDIN THAT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AGAINST THE U.S. ARMY IN WESTERN IRAQ.
  • 24:55 THEIR WEBSITE HAS SAUDI CLERICS >>ALL OVER IT.
  • 24:57 SO WE HAVE 2 PROBLEMS IN SAUDI ARABIA.
  • 25:00 ONE IS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED >>THE IDEOLOGICAL JUSTIFICATION
  • 25:04 FOR THE NEW GLOBAL TERRORISM THAT WE ARE ALL FACING.
  • 25:07 TWO, THEY HAVE BEEN FINANCING IT.
  • 25:09 IF WE WANT TO CREATE A STABLE MIDDLE EAST OF THE FUTURE,
  • 25:12 WE CAN WORK WITH THE SAUDI ROYAL >>FAMILY, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM STILL IN POWER
  • 25:16 BUT, THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR POLICIES AND THEY HAVE TO CHANGE >>THEM QUICKLY.
  • 25:19 MANY TIMES YOU WILL SEE SPOKESMEN IN THE WORLD OF THE U.N. PARTICULARLY,
  • 25:23 SAYING, THERE'S A "CYCLE OF VIOLENCE",
  • 25:26 OH YES,THE CYCLE HAS NO BEGINNING, IT HAS NO END.
  • 25:28 IT JUST KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND IT HAS ISRAELIS EQUALLY GUILTY TO PALESTINIANS.
  • 25:34 IF THAT IS THE APPROACH YOU TAKE >>AND YOU ACCEPT THAT APPROACH, THE "CYCLE OF VIOLENCE",
  • 25:39 THEN YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY WHO IS THE AGGRESSOR, WHO IS THE DEFENDER
  • 25:42 THEN YOU LOSE YOUR MORAL EDGE AND YOU ARE NEVER ABLE TO WIN THE WAR ON TERRORISM.
  • 26:00 LET'S FACE IT, THE U.S. IS A ROOKIE AT FIGHTING TERRORISM.
  • 26:04 WE HAVE THE SO-CALLED WAR ON TERRORISM, THAT'S JUST A WASHINGTON EXPRESSION.
  • 26:09 THE ISRAELIS HAVE A REAL WAR ON TERRORISM.
  • 26:11 WE'RE NOT REALLY CHASING TERRORISTS ANY PLACE THAT I CAN SEE.
  • 26:13 WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR WORST ENEMIES, SAUDI ARABIA, IRAN, SYRIA, LIBYA, SUDAN, PLO,
  • 26:22 WE'RE NOT EVEN DEALING WITH THEM.
  • 26:23 WE'RE PRETENDING THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS OUR FRIEND AND NOT PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE,
  • 26:32 WHICH IS KIND OF A JOKE.
  • 26:34 WELL, ISRAEL WILL NOT LOSE IT'S MORAL EDGE, THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
  • 26:38 READ YOUR BIBLE AND YOU WILL SEE THAT.
  • 26:40 IT WILL HOLD THIS LAND. >>IT WILL WIN ALL OF THESE WARS.
  • 26:43 IT WILL SURVIVE TO THE KINGDOM AND BEYOND IN ETERNITY WHEN GOD >>WILL MAKE A NEW JERUSALEM.
  • 26:49 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, >>PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. The Invasion
  2. The Old New Land
  3. The Ambassador Speaks
  4. The Real War on Terrorism
  5. Our Man in Jerusalem
  6. A Clash of Civilizations
  7. The Humble Knight
  8. The Apple of His Eye
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